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9/11 Intercepted

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posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 09:21 PM
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Even though you got a chuckle out of me...LOL! And I ALWAY'S appreciate a person who can do that for me...let me ask you this...what do YOU think really happened?

Split Infinity




posted on Jul, 22 2012 @ 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
I would think that a Sagging Truss would at the time of being Super Heated...and remember...you cannot just use the Temp. that Jet Fuel Burns at since there is the additional Massive Increase in Temp. from the Combination of the Kinetic Energy Impact in conjunction to exploding Fuel.


How did the truss become 'super heated' in an hour?

Jet fuel would not increase the temperature of the rest of what was burning. Average room fire temps are much hotter than what jet fuel burns at. All the jet fuel would do is accelerate the burn speed of the material it was in contact with.


The Kinetic Transfer ALONE would create Temps. that FAR EXCEEDED the Temps. that are associated with just Jet Fuel Igniting. Combine this with the Weight that those Columns are supporting and you get a a set of conditions that allow for effects that in and of themselves could not cause such effect.


The kinetic transfer of what? Far exceed the temps of what? What effect are you talking about, sagging trusses pulling in columns? Sorry but you are making no sense to me. Combining the weight the columns were supporting with kinetic transfer would cause the sagging trusses to be able to pull in the columns? Is that what you're trying to say?


But when all factors are considered...in a complete model of Cause and Effect...you get the answer to why. Look it like this. I have a rectangular box that is designed to stand from a base upwards where the longest length is pointed skyward. This Rectangular Box is very strong but takes into account Gravitational Effect to actually Strengthen itself as it is designed not to be very strong tilted at any angle other than standing with it's longest dimension coming from it's Ground Base level to Straight up Level. In fact...if it were to be somehow shifted only a few degrees...it would begin to collapse.


What has that got to do with sagging trusses being able to pull in columns? Funny how you use boxes for your analogy but you probably laugh with your buddies at Richard Gauge eh?


Now...say this construct is made of multiple layers of Fire Proof Material that is designed not to collapse even if a Fire was started inside where every level has material that will burn at 451 Degrees F....as was the case with the World Trade Centers Incredible amount of Paper Files...enough to equal a very large forest. But 451F. is still way below the temp. needed to melt what this constructs Beams are made of as well as Melt Concrete like Molten Rock.


I have no idea what that was all about.


Now what I do next is accelerate a container of Fuel inside an Aluminum Scaled Model Plane and shoot it at the same areas that the WTC were hit. The Kinetic Force increases the Temps. This link is an EXAMPLE of what I am talking about...just an example.
www.dtic.mil...


Your link doesn't work.

I still don't see what you're trying to say. Nothing you have mentioned answers the question, how do sagging trusses put a pulling force on the columns, and IF they could how did the connections not fail first?

The question has nothing to do with how hot anything got, or didn't get. Or whether trusses can sag from heat.


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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 01:55 AM
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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 05:23 AM
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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 05:32 AM
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Sad. You continue with nothing, no evidence, no data, just cartoons. After almost 11 years, nothing. Just cartoons.



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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 12:18 PM
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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 02:37 PM
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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by hooper
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Until Farmer makes some effort, I'll be beating the wheat from the chaff in here regarding hooper's "digit in rectum" excuse for 4 alleged aircraft running rings around US skies.


No wait - ALLEGED aircraft????????? Oh no folks - we have a no-planer!


Settle petal.

Wrong. As usual. I'm referring to the alleged AA11, AA77, UA93 and UA175.



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 04:15 PM
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Okay 911files. I'll take you up on your offer.

You can run me through it then point out where to look for the "discrepancies".

Deal?



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 04:20 PM
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Why certainly. Let me know when you get to the "swap" of planes part.

Here, I'll make it easier for you.



Now reproduce this screenshot WITHOUT "altering" the output using filters (other than time). Then run an export query for the area involving ONLY the area where the two planes are being suggested to have done a swap. Perhaps even extend the history to 20 returns for each of the targets.

Let me know when you have that.
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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by 911files
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Why certainly. Let me know when you get to the "swap" of planes part.


I thought you were going to run me through it? Or run other readers here through it?



posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 05:06 PM
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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 05:12 PM
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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 05:25 PM
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Go one step further and tell me exactly what was "tampered" with and tell me how it is different from your RS3 Software? There are thousands of tracks to sift through.

Even if I were to somehow produce what you asked for, you'd still claim that it was "tampered" with! Let's sort this out like adults. Cards on the table time. Or retract the accusation and save some face here.
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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by ThePostExaminer
911files

Go one step further and tell me exactly what was "tampered" with and tell me how it is different from your RS3 Software? There are thousands of tracks to sift through.


Oh my, there is no need for me to do a tutorial, one was included with the software.

RS3 Software Tutorial

You just hit it right there. How smart you are. For all of your playing dumb, you are familiar with the software and are fully aware that there "are thousands of tracks to sift through". Hence, to get just a couple of targets on a screenshot, the output had to be "tampered" with to isolate those returns. Yet, in the cartoon, no mention is made as to methodology used to filter those targets. If you run the output without "tampering" with it, you'll see all kinds of encounters like this with all kinds of plane. After all, it is one of the busiest air corridors in the country at that time of day.

So now, quit pretending to be ignorant and tell me, what time is that screenshot from and what filters were used to create it?
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Let me be more specific. What Mode 3 values were used to generate the output?
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posted on Jul, 23 2012 @ 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by ThePostExaminer
Even if I were to somehow produce what you asked for, you'd still claim that it was "tampered" with! Let's sort this out like adults. Cards on the table time. Or retract the accusation and save some face here.


Yes I would, and you just proved it without me having to do a single screenshot. Thanks.



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