Originally posted by nake13
As you say the document only relates to those who were recorded as passing thru the camps,and as such does not record accurately the numbers who were
exterminated.Now to change this around,what basis in fact is there for accepting the commonly quoted figure of 6 million deaths? I mean.if accurate
records were not kept.how were those who arrived at the figure of 6 million able to confirm that number?
To clarify, what I said was the document that callahan linked to was a record of the index cards pertaining to files held by Bad Arolsen of those
admitted to concentrations camps who are confirmed to have died.
In addition to Bad Arolsen, which holds all the concentration camp files that survived the war, there are several other archives of documents
pertaining to the concentration camps, and to the transports 'East'. These include, as I already mentioned, the records of those transported, and
the records of the individual ghettos. Most of the transportation records, were held centrally in Berlin, these were captured by the US Army and are
held at the NARA. Ghetto records are much more spread out. There is currently no single source or rather resource that brings all the figures
together. Other archives were captured by the Red Army and by the British Army, which unlike the US and Bad Arolsen, have not made significant
attempts to catalogue or allow free access to the records that they seized.
The figure of six million came from the Germans themselves. Recent scholarly investigation has found it to be a reasonably accurate figure and has
broken it down to around 4.5 million Jews being murdered specifically for being Jewish and further 1.5 million Jews who were killed during the
operations of the Einzatsgruppen primarly for being Slavs. 2 million non-Jews were also killed during those operations.
The files for individual Jews departing Berlin, and other occupied territories are fairly self-explanatory, but they are not entirely complete. Where
the transportee ended up at a concentration camp there is a file at that destination, and if they were further transferred after admittance, that too
is detailed. If a transportee was sent 'East' there is no such record, that person simply drops off the face of the earth. Similarly with the
ghetto records, transportation is recorded in Berlin, arrival is recorded at the ghetto and so on and so forth...if they are recorded as being
transported and if
they later arrived at a camp that is recorded, if they were transported and there is no record of arrival...etc etc.
In terms of the actions of the Einsatzgruppen there was very little record other than numbers, no names, unless certain persons were specified (each
of the Einsatzgruppen sonderkommando were issued with a pre-printed list of specified targets), these reports of numbers murdered at each locale were
wired direct to Berlin. It is likely, given that at this point that Ultra had been cracked, that these wires were intercepted by Britain at GCHQ,
however to date, Britain has not admitted to such. And
it is possible that even if they were intercepted that they remain unencrypted as Ultra
decrypts were carried out on a priority basis.
Some links to further information about archives and other such records....