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Has Your Doctor Accepted Bribery Kickbacks From Big Pharma?

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posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 02:39 PM
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To make a complete case for those of you who don't know, Big Pharma and the FDA have been caught in bed together repeatedly! And it's disgusting...
Ron Paul's Admission to the Public

In the article below there's a link to a website that has a list of payout's to every doctor who gave in to the bribes from Big Pharma. The list of back stabbing doctors is HUGE! Notice the majority of the names... Hmmm...

Here is an article with the website more details:
Alternative Media blows the lid on Big Pharma's massive bribery network!

Skip the article and go straight to the list of doctors!




posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 02:52 PM
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reply to post by BreeAnna00
 
It is the same here in the UK, I suffer from P.T.S.D plus pain from injuries but the doctor wasn't just offering me medication for my pain & mental illness he was offering me the newest type of anti-psychotics, then on top of the strongest pain killers he offered me barbs, sleeping tabs, basically an open prescription pad. When I went back monthly as I have to and suggested I'd like to cut down on the painkillers he was shocked and asked 'are you sure you wont need any Tamazepam to help you sleep' !!

They're all in it together and when they're faced with someone who wants off their prescription drugs they are shocked to the core. As things are I have cut down on the painkillers against his advice and the anti psychotic's too and have never felt better.

Exercising my body and mind has helped more than the medication that kept me out of reality.

S&F for your post, if you have time I'd love some evidence of what our Brit doctors are up too please.



edit on 19/7/2012 by theguygeeza because: Spelling mistake



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 02:55 PM
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I think a better question would be... Are there any doctors who haven't taken bribes and kickbacks from pharma. I'll bet the list would be really short.



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 02:55 PM
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edit on 19/7/2012 by theguygeeza because: Not an essential post to the discussion



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 02:59 PM
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My MD is not on that list, but he is getting ready to go out of business. He makes less than I do thanks to the government and I'm struggling. He now has to have five people to handle one patient. One for front desk, three to handle documents and document filings and his PA.

I can't say I blame them for the very legal act of being paid for their time.

I'm not into the idea the Pharmaceutical Companies are out to get us madness though. That's just nutty and demonstrably wrong anyway.

Are you aware that most MD's now, even Surgeons are earning the same as or less than the Electrician who comes to fix your home? Why they don't all quite amazes me. Only the Hospital Administrators earn a living that reflects the schooling and sacrifice they made to be MD's and a lot of that comes from the government.

Something like one in five of them are likely to shut down at the end of the year and those who are left won't take any Medicare or Medicaid Patients because it costs more to see them than they are paid.

Would you go through all those years of school and Internship for an average wage when you are done? I think that the Medical Profession will end up attracting the bottom of the barrel from now on.

You did notice the article mentioned it's not illegal and they are in fact doing nothing wrong by being paid to speak. Would you rather they all go broke? That would fix them. Imagine going to the Pharmacy to get a prescription you need to live and finding out they have none and none is available. You do know that has already started, right? Your up to date on the topic, right?
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posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 03:10 PM
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I have been seeing psychologists and psychiatrists since 1999, although I have cut my appointments down to once a month (they really hate that, they prefer twice a month minimum, and once a week is "ideal"). Over the years, I've been put on some very questionable medication. A few years ago, I decided to stop taking any sort of medication whatsoever. They won't let me go for the psychotherapy alone without medication, so I let them think that I take it. But the most recent medications I've been put on are Requip, Wellbutrin, Abilify, and Tegretol. Just look up some of the side effects for those medications. One of the side effects for Abilify is "sudden death". Sounds completely safe, right? Before that, I was on Ambien to help me sleep at night. When Heath Ledger died a few years back, I was mysteriously taken off of that drug with no explanation.

Safety concerns aside, another reason I think doctors get kickbacks is because they are so willing to "try new things" on me. I am constantly asked, "So how are you doing on your medication?" If I have a single complaint, something is switched out for something else, or something else is added in. I haven't had a complaint in a long time because I got sick of being used as a guinea pig.

And about a month ago I tried going back on my medication. I think I just about slit my wrists because of it. If I owned a gun, I would have shot myself in the head. Sometimes I wonder why I bother going on, anyway.
edit on 19-7-2012 by MrUncreated because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 03:18 PM
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reply to post by Blaine91555
 
Thanks for adding to the Op a learned veteran of ATS


I've something to add from here over the big pond...our doctors are on ridiculous wages, honest, they even had strikes as the government want their retirement age upped from 62 to 65 along side other occupations. Not sure about things over your way but our doctors are well paid, yes it must be a hard job but the doctors I have met over this past few years have been all too willing to open a prescription pad up and offer me drugs, yes as I stated I do have an illness and physical illnesses too but why offer me more drugs like barbs & benzo's. As I stated in another post I am weaning myself down and the doctors are astounded at it...somebody wanting minimum pain killers & low anti-psychotics...what he doesn't want to be a zombie any more, they're shocked!



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 03:19 PM
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Sounds like you might actually need to see them once a week if you really feel that way. Perhaps you should listen?



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 03:33 PM
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Hey never feel alone or that you want to end it, please it is upsetting reading your thoughts like that, be strong!

If you don't think like that off the med's then stay away from them, if you need them take them. I was given all kinds at one point, in illegal amounts too may I add, when I was hooked on Dihydrocodeine, Seroquel & Diazepam one doctor gave me the maximum legal dose and if I needed more I'd just go to another doctor as suggested. It stinks that over the last few years I have opened my eyes again and want my feelings back, nightmares, pain, flashbacks included I want the lot back! Alas though the doctor still wants to see me once a month, twice if it is possible and is always willing to up my dose, yeah thanks right back to square one I do not think.



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 03:33 PM
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What is happening here is they are being bankrupted by over-regulation. The required paperwork takes three people to accomplish on top of the front desk help and PA's.

My own Nephew, who was a respected Surgeon at Bethesda and ironically worked on member of Congress and the like, had to quit and go into Private Practice in Family Medicine. It worked for a while but now he is likely going to close his doors. He had to cover his own Malpractice Insurance and it took over half his income.

His degree (and this was back in the 1980's) cost him over a half million and four years of military service, along with having to serve his Internship and the extra schooling to become a Surgeon. I'd expect anyone doing that to make at least $250,000 a year or why bother. He's down to about $80,000 a year so why he did not close a couple of years ago amazes me. Why bother.

On top of that they keep cutting what Medicaid and Medicare pay and it is now less than it cost the MD to pay their own help. They loose money on ever patient they see who is on the dole.

Our government just piled on a whole new set of regulations making it cost even more just to do the paperwork. That and after the start of next year what they do for each patient will be decided by a panel in government, instead of the MD seeing the patient.

The politicians on the Progressive side lie and lie to cover up the fact most of the cost of Medicine is all government regulation and insurance costs. They could open up competition in between States and lower the costs overnight. They could also reduce the paperwork and reduce costs, but they won't. That would be smart.

What is happening here is Obama buying votes with handouts and the voters are becoming so sociopath from handouts they don't care if their own grandchildren will have to pay their debt.

It all a shell game and they keep these meaningless arguments going to cover up. The more Progressive we become, the worse or standard of living is. When America was great we embraced Capitalism fully and all benefited from that. Only one parent had to work for instance. That's why they take over the schools so they can rewrite history. Only now they start rewriting it while those who lived then, like me, are still alive. That's how corrupt our version of Progressives are now.

I'm not sure words I use mean the same here as they do where you are. Progressives are basically Marxist who want a system like the former Soviet Union had. Worked out real well for them



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
My MD is not on that list, but he is getting ready to go out of business. He makes less than I do thanks to the government and I'm struggling. He now has to have five people to handle one patient. One for front desk, three to handle documents and document filings and his PA.

I can't say I blame them for the very legal act of being paid for their time.

I'm not into the idea the Pharmaceutical Companies are out to get us madness though. That's just nutty and demonstrably wrong anyway.

Are you aware that most MD's now, even Surgeons are earning the same as or less than the Electrician who comes to fix your home? Why they don't all quite amazes me. Only the Hospital Administrators earn a living that reflects the schooling and sacrifice they made to be MD's and a lot of that comes from the government.

Something like one in five of them are likely to shut down at the end of the year and those who are left won't take any Medicare or Medicaid Patients because it costs more to see them than they are paid.

Would you go through all those years of school and Internship for an average wage when you are done? I think that the Medical Profession will end up attracting the bottom of the barrel from now on.

You did notice the article mentioned it's not illegal and they are in fact doing nothing wrong by being paid to speak. Would you rather they all go broke? That would fix them. Imagine going to the Pharmacy to get a prescription you need to live and finding out they have none and none is available. You do know that has already started, right? Your up to date on the topic, right?
edit on 7/19/2012 by Blaine91555 because: (no reason given)


My MD is not on that list either thank god. Most of the doctors hear in San Diego are pretty wealthy however I can't deny the fact that there are many who are currently struggling. I used to date a psychiatrist and he is the wealthiest man I know and he has never been involved in any act of this sort. Granted, he took a huge risk and started a mobile business that has to do with prescriptions (not exactly sure how) but, the are successful and unsuccessful people throughout every occupation. Right?

You do know that prescriptions kill more Americans than heroin and coc aine combined, and and they are the number one killer in America?

I do not take prescriptions whatsoever, I am completely against them. I eat healthy (raw food), exercise regularly, and make sure I get enough vitamins and I haven't been sick in 2 years. I also use indoor tanning beds 2-3 times a week and that promotes a strong immune system and decreases my risk of cancer by 77% because vitamin d regulates blood cells. Did you know that 85% of FDA approved sunscreens are made of cancer causing chemicals?

Before the number of patients diagnosed with breast cancer shot through the roof, they urged women to get yearly mammograms. Or how about when the media claims there is a virus outbreak and they urge everyone to get these vaccines that actually cause an autoimmune disorder, and they still end up getting sick with a common cold and the ones with the weakest immune systems die. Last year my grandma and grandma got the flu just days after they got the shot. This is all a little irrelevant, but you see how we're being played, are you up to date on all of that??



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 04:02 PM
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I will read and comment later, I gotta go to work!!! Thanks for all of your feedback!!!



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 04:02 PM
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edit on 7/19/12 by BreeAnna00 because: accidently posted twice



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 04:08 PM
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Honestly Blaine91555 I feel for you and your son too, things are going backwards, things could be made a whole lot easier but they do not wish it to be that way. They (whoever they are) are rewriting the history books over here too whilst cutting everything that they can...from help with after school care, our (I know that we are a lucky country to have one) N.H.S, our armed forces, school meals for families struggling to make ends meet with both parents working, the list is endless, things are looking bad from every angle. I know that the system is a lot different over the waters, I once had a dream of living over there, it was in my 5 year plan I made a year or so ago but now I am looking to go to New Zealand or Sweden. The governments are destroying things from the inside out, I have friends still serving in different war zones, friends that work for the government (all be it in a protecting the public fashion) friends that are nurses & family that are social security officers and none of them are happy. They prefer not to say anything but when I bring up certain topics I read it in their eyes and body language that they have lost faith & are worried about their jobs/security/children.

When the people that work in the systems in any way lose faith in the system then I see that as a sure sign that things are a miss. Thank you for bringing me up to speed on the way things are over there regarding these matters in an educated, informative yet honest manner.

I hope and pray things will change for the better soon. Having cut down on my medication I am readying myself to leave this once great Britain, I have a few loose ends to tie up then I will be heading for fresh water, new names, no past, start again in a country that isn't on its knees letting in every Tom, Dick & Sally that claims asylum & giving them their ridiculous handouts.

I hope things get better for your son & yourself and once again thank you for insight into how things are over there.



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 04:16 PM
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I don't like to go into personal stuff much, but right now prescriptions are keeping me alive. I can't agree because it would kill me within a couple of months. I wonder how many kill themselves now over false paranoia? Please don't be foolish, you seem like a nice person. The Doctors are not out to get you or anyone else.

Each generation lives far longer and are healthier in old age which proves beyond a doubt that they are NOT out to get us.

A Psychiatrist is not at all like a normal MD and no doubt they are very well paid. They don't have the expenses to deal with. I imagine that is a lucrative profession, but you would be wrong to think that most MD's are doing well. That is a myth and you can't base it on what a Psychiatrist earns. You would be mixing apples and oranges.

Soon you will have to go to a government backed Hospital and Clinic to get inferior medical care. Watch and wait, it is happening right now. Nobody will like it and will soon see how badly they have been lied to. It's just around the corner. Anyone on Medicare or Medicaid will be horrified at what they fell for very soon.

Unless of course you are rich enough to go to rich folks MD's. Are you rich?
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posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 04:18 PM
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I had the same experience with my doctor long ago and pain killers. I wanted an MRI because I knew there was more to my back pain but he just kept wanting to pump me up on drugs on every visit over and over. It got to the point where I had to DEMAND in a threatening tone for him to authorize me seeing a specialist so I could get the MRI done and told him I would not leave until he did. I went and got the MRI a few days later and the results showed two buldging disk with one of them herinated and the doctor reading the MRI X-ray said he was surprised I was even walking around. I am a loud and outspoken kind of guy and just a little intimidating physically so I took the results a few miles out of my way to go back to the doctors office. The gal at the front desk asked me to wait but a few minutes later he came through the lobby enterance so I confronted him there. I showed him the results and scolded and belittled him in front of every nurse and every patient while telling him I told you so many many times. I was a bit of a jerk that day but it was deserving and even though I looked like a PITA I know that doctor will think differently with another patient even if he continues his path of feeding pills to drug addicts. They all know how much the pills are worth on the street so they are shocked that people don't want the $500 bottle of pills for free even if they are selling them and not taking them.



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 05:14 PM
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Thanks for relating your story to me, I was worried at first but have genuine injuries that I just have to live with.

You're lucky that you got your MRI scan as I know myself how hard it is to get them as a friends Mum is in real need of one, the family has demanded one but the doctors will not give :@

You're right about the shock when you tell the Doctors that you don't want the pills & want reduced, even though a prescription only use to cost me £7.50 all in. I think the doctor thinks that some physical scars may heal but mental ones wont well if I am to continue doing my job, continue helping people and saying hello to strangers on the street I'm staying on the minimal dose I'm on now. The doctors can take their pads and put em back in the drawer to put it politely. I'd rather have feelings, nightmares, flashbacks, regrets, pain and a bit of paranoia than be a zombie.

Honest thanks for relaying your story to me. What I'm trying to say is that most medications wreck not just your body but your soul & mind too but if you feel there is something wrong then you'd best stand up for your rights & fight to be checked over properly.

You were one of the lucky ones, as am I! I no longer need to be a zombie, I feel no guilt, remorse...anything like that, I do have flashbacks & the nightmares but still my body is coming back stronger than it was with a mind & soul to back it too. Medication is fine when needed but if you run into a doctor who just wants to feed you pills after pills then stay away or you will be the one that loses in the end.

Peace, luck and light to all in everything you do...




posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 08:54 PM
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Ouchie, this is a difficult subject. Many doctors here are losing their private practice because they cannot afford it any longer. The hospital I work at has made life so difficult because if one patient, for example gets a bed sore, medicare will not pay, there is such a shortage of doctors, nurses and nurse assistants that it nearly makes it impossible to keep a bedridden patient properly turned as needed and required.....The shortage is NATION WIDE and is GETTING WORSE!!!!!

Now, my dilemma, just being diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis this week....I am in good spirits for the most part. Having ups and downs of course, still healing, and have only been home from the hospital for a few short days....BUT BUT BUT. I was told today that I needed to choose a medicine to prevent relapses and a progression of the disease. They want to start me on a drug that will be daily injections FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE!!!! EST cost $30,000 a year!

I have two young kids and cannot be kept back by a relapse...........I MUST GET BACK TO WORK ASAP!!! People like me who work in the health care field understand the horrors that ARE COMING and are ALREADY HERE!! It makes me so frightened, right now I just don't know what to think or do.......It makes me cry......



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 09:27 PM
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Most doctors these days have been reduced to mere prescription writers.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 03:11 AM
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Originally posted by theguygeeza
reply to post by BreeAnna00
 
It is the same here in the UK, I suffer from P.T.S.D plus pain from injuries but the doctor wasn't just offering me medication for my pain & mental illness he was offering me the newest type of anti-psychotics, then on top of the strongest pain killers he offered me barbs, sleeping tabs, basically an open prescription pad. When I went back monthly as I have to and suggested I'd like to cut down on the painkillers he was shocked and asked 'are you sure you wont need any Tamazepam to help you sleep' !!

They're all in it together and when they're faced with someone who wants off their prescription drugs they are shocked to the core. As things are I have cut down on the painkillers against his advice and the anti psychotic's too and have never felt better.

Exercising my body and mind has helped more than the medication that kept me out of reality.

S&F for your post, if you have time I'd love some evidence of what our Brit doctors are up too please.



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Oh my gosh, I've been hearing about these anti-psychotics! They were giving my boyfriend Seroquel for sleeping last year when he was in the Burn Intensive Care Unit for a couple of months, while giving him methadone, ativan, and morphine! Then, when he finally came home he literally didn't sleep for SIX WEEKS because they didn't send him home with anything to ween off of. Just when it looked like he was falling asleep, he would start having conversations, many times i saw him put his hand up to his ear and say hello like he was answering his phone, or he would hold his hand like he was holding a hamburger, put it to his mouth, then take a bite and chew!!!

Pills mess with the brain BAD! People need to realize that there are natural remedies for almost every health problem without these side effects or a chance of possibly causing permanent damage!

I'd be happy to do a little research for you! For your pain I recommend you find a Far Infrared Sauna, you might be able to find a place where you can get a membership to use one or might even find one new/used at a decent price! I have one at home and it is MAGIC!!!!



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