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Originally posted by Crakeur
...Canada invaded the US along the NY border and headed into NYC.
Now, assume that, since we were totally unprepared for this and we know that the city is lost, the residents either killed or being killed and, in a last ditch, desperate act, President Bozo, who unified the 2 parties to form the Republicrats, decides to nuke NYC and put a stop to the Canadian Army in one swift move.
Originally posted by smirkley
Anyway,..back to Titor,... very debunked.
A nice story, but even I proved the geiger counter would not have helped him stay alive, to say the least.
Originally posted by Crakeur
reply to post by James1982
what if the city that was nuked was nuked by its own military? Say, for example, that Canada invades the US, travelling south to NYC.
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Originally posted by Spruk
Ok here goes:
1. The childs eyes being problematic after a flash of light captured by the camera, it is implied by the footage that the fash 'burnt' the childs eye. NOW if this was some form of weapons grade flash (we are talking high impact bomb here) the childs sclera woulf have haemorrhaged, thus resulting in well bleeding from the eyes. For those that doesnt make sense, the blood vestles on the eye are VERY close to the surface, a slight sunburn of the eye can result in a haemorrhage (AKA blood tears).
2. The man with the stomach wound had no abrasions or any visible wound. IT was like someone grabbed some fake blood and smered it all over someones torso to make it look like what i can only assume to be a punctured spleen (which is in the area of the 'bleeding'.) For someone who has never seen this there are two factors the fictional film writer did not take into account.
a. A ruptured or punctured spleen contains a fair amount of blood, rupturing this will simply cause the patient to bleed OUT very quickly without being in surgery, so as you can imagine that is a LOT of blood. (high up, next to your liver).
b. The back of the car transporting said individual was sterile (as in clean). There was no blood in the interia. For ANY severe torso wound bleeds a LOT, because the heart is close to the wound site, thus will have a tendancy to bleed a LOT, and of course the torso has a fair amount of critical blood pathways.
Lastly, the bombs being deployed in the area, the jet APPEARS to flow low, it punches it and goes into a rapid ascent, jet is out of view and the hill blows up (then the couple runs away). The problem with this one is the timing of the event. The jet sit flying REALLY low, it releases the bomb, and gives the film a good 10 seconds before the explosion, if i do my math right (which is probably off a tad, but its in the ball park), and judging by the sweeping movement of the jet (from the camera) we are looking at a jet flying approximately 100 feet off the deck (no pilot in their right mind, in a warzone would do that), the bomb should have slipped off the side of the hill impacting at the base. (Airspeed + drop speed). IF you say "but the bomber is flying further up!" you'd hear it. You heard the jet, then almost silence them boom, so there is nothing above them.
I also might want to add, the nuclear explosion is "simulated". Judging by the pan out (which is utter crud to begin with, as the thermic pressure would have blown that guy on his ass). Heres why:
Nuclear (and conventional bombs) have a themic wave componet, that is the air exploding outward (also known as the shockwave), given the distance and the implication that it is nuclear they made one key mistake. All nuclear weapons dont "hit the target" they explode mid air. This is to ensure the maximum explosive potential, and maximize damage. If you look at the three people huddle behind the little white car, you will also see the dust simply "steams" past in a line (almost like a dust storm) and envelops the couple.
In an explosive scenario (Non nuclear), you will get this timeline : Shockwave (Thermic wave, which would have been extreme, event for a 5mt nuclear weapon, and would have turned the "USB key" to mush, but ill discuss this below), then followed closly is the debris wave (Dust, rocks etc), which COULD have left things at their range along (ie not moving, like we where treated too)
Nuclear weapon has a much similar "timeline" or events. However these are a LOT more enegetic. The shockware WOULD have dislodged the car, the debris wave was not dense enough (the front debris wave would sucked the light from the atmosphere around the people, resulting a patch of complete darkness), and the tail of it would have become less dense (as the shockwave dissipates). The major flaw? There was no flash, there was no "suck" (Nuclear arms and most explosives suck atmosphere IN before the explosion).
Last but not least, the shockwave would have: Shatterd windows, knocked the guy off his feet, caused their ears to ring so loud they'd be on the ground in severe pain, the device used to record it would have been turned into mush, and the USB key they "recovered" would have been blank due to the EMP that would have proceeded the nuclear explosion.
Thank you and good night