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A fine point because the President isn't the Government -- there are three branches. But the Congress isn't solely the Republicans filibustering -- as the Senate and the Democrats are also stonewalling. Basically the last year of President Obama's administration has been a quasi-lame duck session. All of Congress -- not just the Republicans is to be blamed equally; along with the president and along with an anemically ignorant populace.
I ask you this -- as your call to "remove all lobbyists" is oft uttered; how will this be accomplished? Remove the First Amendment right to petition your Government? While the current state of lobbyist is no fan of mine, calling for complete removal would be a direct violation of the First Amendment. So I ask again -- how would you remove them without trouncing on the First Amendment?
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by Eurisko2012
I saw the video of the real agenda of Acorn under Obama, but since, things has changed while it was true that he was view as a Socialist thing has change, money talks and BS walk, he is now pro corporatism and the bills he has passed under his administration are a clear view of what he stands for.
Kill the productive working class, create a welfare state and then tax the rest for profit making while pushing more corporate laws.
Originally posted by spinalremain
Reply to post by Eurisko2012
Obama isn't demonizing business owners. He was trying to convey the fact that business owners are not a level above those who work for them, or those who work in the public sector. That their success is not a sole result of their 'infinite wisom', but it is a multitude of factors which include their education, their gov grants and programs and most importantly their employees.
I can understand why everyone is up in arms about what he said, but if you open mindedly think about it, he's right. Business owners are extremely important obviously in terms of our economy and employment, but it's also important that there exist a harmony wherein the owner has regognition that they are where they are due to all the pieces, not just their own work. Ignoring this fact places a premium on profit and places the employee in a lower tier where they're not preoperly paid or benefitted.
Private unions exists for this very reason.
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Originally posted by jjkenobi
Originally posted by David9176
The only way to stop this is more tax cuts for the rich!!!
Hell, not that's probably not enough, we should PAY THEM!!!
We are dependent on jobs, therefore we aer dependent on the job creators.
yet people wonder why we fought as a country for the 40 hour work week, OT, vacation, safety laws, ETCedit on 20-7-2012 by David9176 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Doom and Gloom
I said nothing about removing or infringing upon the First Amendment.
Where I do have a problem with the lobbyists is the ability to pay large amounts of money to sway a decision or law in their favor.
The Government is there to serve the people of this country, NOT THE HIGHEST BIDDER.
Corporations are just as complicit in the problems of this country. If corporate interests were removed from Washington, perhaps they could do some good.
I ask you what is the actual benefit to the People of the United States allowing the Government to be bought by Corporations?
Originally posted by Doom and Gloom
While we can sit here and blame Obama for all of this, Congress is just as responsible. Especially with the Republicans filibustering the 'Bring Jobs Back to America' bill. Everyone on of them is responsible for the state of this country.
Remove all lobbyists from Washington, apply tariffs to all goods imported to the US, fine every single company that has outsourced their jobs over seas annually.
Originally posted by mrnotobc
Originally posted by Doom and Gloom
While we can sit here and blame Obama for all of this, Congress is just as responsible. Especially with the Republicans filibustering the 'Bring Jobs Back to America' bill. Everyone on of them is responsible for the state of this country.
Remove all lobbyists from Washington, apply tariffs to all goods imported to the US, fine every single company that has outsourced their jobs over seas annually.
That's not going to work. You would drive the price of goods through the roof by doing that. How coud we afford to live since we're all out of jobs?
A better idea would be to slash regulations on small business's. Cut taxes, and of course drasticly cut government spending.
You're right about the government though. They're all responsible for this. No one is ever held accountable.
Originally posted by Doom and Gloom
DO NOT mistake me as a supporter of Obama. While I understand that the Republicans filibustering is not the the sole reason, my point is that the government as a whole is non-functional. Instead of playing the role of leaders they are acting as if they are adolescent children while this country wastes away. People are loosing jobs and homes at an alarming rate yet they can only bicker like children. President, Congress, and Senate. All of them need to be removed, yet the same career politicians that haven't done a damn thing will be put back into office to continue the complacency. My point is that government has become ineffective in all branches.
The only thing they actually can agree on is sending our young off to fight in countries that we should not be involved with.
I said nothing about removing or infringing upon the First Amendment.
Where I do have a problem with the lobbyists is the ability to pay large amounts of money to sway a decision or law in their favor. The Government is there to serve the people of this country, NOT THE HIGHEST BIDDER. Corporations are just as complicit in the problems of this country. If corporate interests were removed from Washington, perhaps they could do some good.
You are begging a question that isn't even mine to even answer. I never stated that there was a benefit to such.
I ask you what is the actual benefit to the People of the United States allowing the Government to be bought by Corporations?