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However, if we do not recognize these illegitimate contracts to begin with, but go directly to the source of creation, then we re-secure our rightful place that has been obscured to begin with...and all we have to do is believe in the creator, trust in the creator, walk in faith, and abide by the law of free will...that is not violate others free will unless they try to do us harm...and teach others how to live the same way...
Originally posted by MAllen7424
reply to post by studythem1
The bible and the story of creation of the Divine Providence and His law is two-fold. In one way it can enslave humanity to a contracted god(serpent) as we have seen in past and present events. But in the other way it can protect the ones enslaved as we saw with Israel and his followers. Following the Divine Will and Divine Morality will keep man walking straight as an arrow. But it is human nature to be rational of the existance of the Divine Will and make a rational choice of believing in something that can never been seen or touched. So our human nature by reason second guesses the Divine Will. That second guessing is free-will and sometimes leads to choices in life that leaves you as a captain of a row-boat in the midst of the Garden with no crew and surrounded by a powerful fleet of pirates eying you up to either become a member of their boat or plundering you of your wealth and leaving you for the sharks or kill you because of the threat of your god-like powers of free-will. No matter what without the protection of His Divine Kingdom. The pirates absorb your boat into their fleet And their power reigns. You are nothing out there in a row-boat on the high seas by yourself without protection as "free agent" under free-will. Next best thing under duress is join the pirates and give up hope of a Heavenly Kingdom on Earth where His Divine Will would have reigned.edit on 29-7-2012 by MAllen7424 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by studythem1
However, if we do not recognize these illegitimate contracts to begin with, but go directly to the source of creation, then we re-secure our rightful place that has been obscured to begin with...and all we have to do is believe in the creator, trust in the creator, walk in faith, and abide by the law of free will...that is not violate others free will unless they try to do us harm...and teach others how to live the same way...
Yeah, that. Welcome to ATS..
edit on 29-7-2012 by wildtimes because: omitted the H at the beginning of the quote.
Originally posted by Deetermined
This is what I've been trying to point out in this thread that no one seems to understand.
Humanity became retarded when we all decided to go our own way and follow our own path. I know this is hard to recognize and understand while we're all screaming for freedom and free will, but in reality, nothing good has ever come from free will. It just keeps separating us from each other
here is where we disagree...the story you talk of is plaigerized from a more ancient text...and in that text is revealed that the original being that was rewritten as the father, was no more holy than you or i...but someone playing god...an imposter...therefore the story we know in genesis is a fraud...it was rewritten and designed to make us feel guilty for something that never even occurred...what really happened is the beings who created us, and in so doing violated the law of free will, did not want Adam and eve to be intelligent, but one of the overlord's kind was the one who granted that intelligence...and Adam and eve were punished for something they had no control over...their DNA...somewhere the story got twisted into the doctrinal mess we have in genesis...
Originally posted by MAllen7424
reply to post by studythem1
I am not trying to prove you wrong about if you and I, or even Jesus did or did not have free-will or if we should not have free-will at all. What I am trying to explain about free-will is that what ever happened in creation between God and Adam. While Adam was devoted and in adoration to The Ever-Living and His Eternal Laws. His gift to man to have free-will to choose is in the story. Adam chose not to be faithful to The Fathers Will by taking the fruit and defauted on the contract between God and himself....
actually this tyrannical government is the same system that is hidden in the Judeo-christian doctrines that still are based off of a flawed version of the original story...someone doctored the evidence and then used it to further toy with peoples minds, and further enslave the masses...they co-opted the original story, rewrote it to suit their devious plans and use it still to this day to trick millions into slavery by way of religion...im saying that they have hedged their bets, they control all sides and make us think that Christianity is in opposition, when they created it to begin with...along with every other religion...
What path did man take living in the "state of na'ture"? We chose a path of suffrage where we vote and poll (behead) ourselves to some sovereign who now is your godhead and through policy controls your free-will under a binding contract which is, in our generations is called a constitution where we must abide by the principles of political right or "social contract" not under the justice of Divine Morality but under the justice of ethical morality which is full of sin. Man now went from being a god as "free-agent" with his free-will to choose to have faith in the " Good" Eternal Laws or have faith in some sovereign person that has his own battle with good and evil and that sovereign may have started out as a moral prince but in time it is obvious as history tells us that power that great leads to evil and corruption, just ask the contracted plebeians about their tyrannical government.
actually i think people are more hungry for the truth now than ever, and they are just misguided...they are confused by all the misinformation that has been cultivated for centuries and do not know what to do...that and they are afraid to accept the fact that their religions are all a lie used to enslave them secretly, so they are lost and confused even more...in denial...the lie is so completely complex and intricate, they cant fathom the alternative to the lies they were brought up to believe in...i have attempted to simplify what really is going on, but i guess some people would rather hang on to their complex and irrational thinking...truth is we have been trained to be addicted to tyranny, even in the form of false doctrines, even in the form of something that is so called 'good', like Christianity...
We are the mirror image of the plebeians in our generations waiting for a "Messiah" to show us the path of good. Man will just see another great awakening from the zombie-like sleep that their government put them in keeping the subjected people's "characteristics of status" hidden so they have no reason to search for the truth.
yes we need to fall in line with the creator, but not in the form of any blood sacrifice, including the purported blood sacrifice of Christ...this idea is foreign to the creator...it is the earmark of something more sinister, the occult...yes he knew they wanted to kill him, but his crucifixion was never meant to be as a substitution for us...such ideas are not in line with the creator, but rather in line with evil...only terrorists and tyrants think in terms of blood payment, and try to trick us into owing something...the creator does not do this...but evil beings do...
So my point about free will is we need to use our free will to follow with contrition the path of The Father's Will
Originally posted by stupid girl
You should already know the answer to this, since you have personal contact with above.
At the very least, you should be able to find the answer in your books.
Originally posted by MAllen7424
Originally posted by Deetermined
This is what I've been trying to point out in this thread that no one seems to understand.,
Humanity became retarded when we all decided to go our own way and follow our own path. I know this is hard to recognize and understand while we're all screaming for freedom and free will, but in reality, nothing good has ever come from free will. It just keeps separating us from each other
Hit the nail on the head brother!
Originally posted by SisyphusRide
Originally posted by MAllen7424
Originally posted by Deetermined
This is what I've been trying to point out in this thread that no one seems to understand.,
Humanity became retarded when we all decided to go our own way and follow our own path. I know this is hard to recognize and understand while we're all screaming for freedom and free will, but in reality, nothing good has ever come from free will. It just keeps separating us from each other
Hit the nail on the head brother!
that's a coincidence, I just seen the Avengers too.
freedom is over rated, it's the unwritten secret of all humanity...