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Originally posted by jhill76
I reference it, because I know it to be true on how he was taken above. Now, he teachings on Christ, this is one mans view, how can you take one man against what Jesus said? This is like only following your pastor in church.
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by jhill76
Now you are entering into the area where you are asking too many questions. That is what they call "blashpemy".
It happens to anyone who doesn't fall into the exact mold of each individual religion. Believe it or not, there are some factions of "Christians" who believe that you must not only profess a belief in Christ as God, but you must also be saved and born again in order to gain entrance into heaven. These groups do a bit more tweaking of the scripture to make things work for them.
I as a free thinker get accused and damned to hell on a regular occasion even though I believe in God and consider my self a the very least, a believer in Christ. If these bozo's are right, Heaven will be a very lonely place and the party will be in Pergetory. I'll bring the chips.
Originally posted by jhill76
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by jhill76
Here you go!
John 6:40
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
Now remember, in John 6:36, not everyone who has seen or sees him will believe in him.
This is the key!
Correct, on your answer to this scripture. But, does this say you must confess he is your Savior as a requirement to enter into the gates? Belief in him and his work, and confessing him as your savior is two different things.
Originally posted by stainlesssteelrat
Hate to break it to you, but to think that creator of universe had a son with human woman, to actually believe that you have to be vigorously indoctrinated from very early age. Oooops, we are, hahahaha .
God having baby with earthling is notion perpetruated through different mythologies (Zeus had few actually), Its just make believe, humanity's gigalomania.
Way to God lies in your behavior and love to your kind. Most of religious lacks it because they treat people from other religions as deemed to be punished in afterlife. So better stay the hell out from them!
Just another tool of control and division.edit on 20-7-2012 by stainlesssteelrat because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by MagnumOpus
Those names were made up by Zacharia Sitchen!
Originally posted by MagnumOpus
Jesus only tried to show folks the issue of Enki and depart from Enlil/Yahweh/Allah.
So, in truth, Jesus isn't the way to a real theme for god.
Jesus was into the water and river culture god of ancient Sumeria, which then set up the river culture for Egypt.
Neither Enlil, nor Enki, should be considered god any more than Nimrod. All it was about is those trying to be kings trying to play god.
If you want to find anything close to god, go shake hands with mother nature. And you'll find nature doesn't pay much attention to humans, but you are supposed to learn from your surroundings.
Originally posted by stainlesssteelrat
Hate to break it to you, but to think that creator of universe had a son with human woman, to actually believe that you have to be vigorously indoctrinated from very early age. Oooops, we are, hahahaha .
God having baby with earthling is notion perpetruated through different mythologies (Zeus had few actually), Its just make believe, humanity's gigalomania.
Way to God lies in your behavior and love to your kind. Most of religious lacks it because they treat people from other religions as deemed to be punished in afterlife. So better stay the hell out from them!
Just another tool of control and division.edit on 20-7-2012 by stainlesssteelrat because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jhill76
From all of the answers provided, it can be concluded that no, Jesus did not state this, but we can conclude this from what all is written in the bible. That could have been said, than trying to discredit me for asking.
Could Jesus have meant, imitate me, be like me, and you can enter heaven? Do you really think people who lived their lives like Brother, but don't accept him as Savior will be sent to eternal damnation? You have other scriptures that talk about accepting Christ, but did Brother specifically say to do this or perish? Is it possible with having a direct relationship with God, or choosing your own way to God, but being good?
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by stupid girl
I would imagine that confessing with your mouth was something that God expected us to do in the form of witnessing. Remember, children of God aren't supposed to hide their light. They are supposed to share it with others.
Originally posted by Deetermined
Originally posted by jhill76
From all of the answers provided, it can be concluded that no, Jesus did not state this, but we can conclude this from what all is written in the bible. That could have been said, than trying to discredit me for asking.
I'm going to ask you to repeat that one more time, JHill, just to make sure we understand you right.
Did you say that we can conclude, from all that is written in the Bible, that Jesus is the only way to God?
As far as discrediting you for asking, the only reason that happened was because you were discrediting the Holy Spirit and ALL that was written in the Bible that didn't come directly from Jesus.
I never discredited the Holy Spirit, you assumed this, just because I asked you to provide Jesus words not others.
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by jhill76
I never discredited the Holy Spirit, you assumed this, just because I asked you to provide Jesus words not others.
Sure you did, when you discredited Paul.
Did Peter back up Paul according to the Bible?
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by jhill76
I never discredited the Holy Spirit, you assumed this, just because I asked you to provide Jesus words not others.
Sure you did, when you discredited Paul.
Did Peter back up Paul according to the Bible?
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by jhill76
JHill76, do you believe what Paul taught in the Bible?
Did Peter back up Paul's statements in the Bible?
discrediting the selfishness of man is not the same as discrediting the holy spirit...