reply to post by Xtraeme
I don't think we need to be considering parting out currency that is almost worthless when it's whole. That won't do much for us except make the
toilet paper last longer.
In a capitalist society the consumer moves the economy. In a socialized economy the government forces the movement of the economy. I think history
speaks for itself on which one of these leads to a more self-sufficient and propagating form of economy.
There has always been and there will always be, no matter what form of government you have, people who have more (money and/or power) and people who
have less. Even in a socialized government all you have done is made the populace below the bar of "have more" and those in power the extremely
limited group above that bar. And the major difference between the system you get with a socialized economy and that you naturally have with a
capitalistic economy is in the former there is little to no chance of making your own way up above that bar. The government legislates that forced
"caste" system on the society.
In a capitalistic economy you ALWAYS have the chance to do better. If it doesn't happen it is either because of bad luck in your life or bad
decisions...or both, but it is not because your government has forced to remain at your station. For the time being we are still not to the level of
"we will pretend to work, you will pretend to pay us".
The government should not be trying to TAX companies back into America. If they want to legislatively force the situation, the penalizing movement
should be toward imports. The U.S. consumer, if they would pull their heads out of their asses and use their buying power (what little we have left)
to move the economy would bring jobs back to America. You gave a for instance on your own. A consumer can choose to support and promote localization
of the economy. Sure Wal Mart had a grand, successful plan. Move just to the outskirts of every little town, set up their massive stores without
contributing to the local tax base and then decimate main street America. You can hate on them all you want but guess what? They couldn't have done
it without us, the consumer, flocking to their store, abandoning the local stores to save a few bucks, and now we are complicit. In fact, we are the
ENGINE behind billions and billions of American consumer dollars each year going to China for cheap goods made outside of our own country.
There's a site called America's got Product. Have you ever bothered to go there and use it to sway your purchasing decision? You can analyze exactly
what brand to buy that will foster the most money back into the U.S. economy, sustain the most amount of U.S. jobs, and help to increase the tax base
of your local economy.
If people (ALL people) are not required to support the common services they are provided, to every single instance in history it devolves into the
Tragedy of the Commons. When people perceive a common benefit/service as "free" (even though it is not), that service falls into abuse by those who
can use but are not held accountable. That service falls into ruin due to lack of ownership and accountability. Over and over in history the tragedy
of the commons has been proven out and right now, right here, we're watching it occur again.
The "value of money" is set by its buying power. An unhealthy economy leads to devalued currency. A healthy economy leads to valued currency. 10%
is 10% and when the money is worth something that 90% left buys you stuff. But you have to be part of the solution, step away from the decaying
"common" and take an active role in saving your own economy. The more power you hand to the federal government the closer to the inevitable tragedy
that awaits us. Stop trying to take other people's stuff and just use your own wisely and in an informed manner and see what happens.
edit on 7-20-2012 by Valhall because: (no reason given)