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Christians: What Will You Do?

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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 05:22 PM
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TPTB are "banking" on the christians doing "nothing"....thats how we got in this mess.

That's exactly right because America was Christian and believed in their duty to bring about the millennium. That was the religion of the people who settled the country and believed they were creating the New Jerusalem.
The Powers That Be created a new religion through John Nelson Darby (in the 1800's) that said, no, there is a rapture and the millennium is in heaven. They (TPTB) promoted that cult and infiltrated all the churches to weaken American and its power for good in the world and social justice.
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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
*sigh* I knew it.

We're totally boned.


Unfortunately, yes we are. I don't think you have to be a Christian to recognize that we all have a common enemy. Christians call him Satan, I call him Money.

There will never be peace in this world as long as money exists, plain and simple. You all know I'm right.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 06:01 PM
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That doesn't mean we can't try.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by Bone75
reply to post by AfterInfinity
 


Have you read the Bible?
Christians have no intention or obligation to save the world.


You claim you read the Bible. What does it say about who the Savior is?



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by AdamsMurmur
You're asking this kind of question to those with strict adherence to eschatology. Most of them would want the world to end, not try and stop it from happening. lol Now I hope others see the audacity of that.

And yeah, why only those religions?

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The Bible says the world will never end. We are looking forward to the end of the age of man's rule and the rule of Christ from Jerusalem. The end of human government.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by AdamsMurmur
You're asking this kind of question to those with strict adherence to eschatology. Most of them would want the world to end, not try and stop it from happening. lol Now I hope others see the audacity of that.

And yeah, why only those religions?

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The Bible says the world will never end. We are looking forward to the end of the age of man's rule and the rule of Christ from Jerusalem. The end of human government.
Right, but honestly, that screams "Zionist agenda." Christians have been used time and time again to try and seize Jerusalem.


It all goes back to the Pharisees and Rome:

39. Jesus said, "The Pharisees and the scholars have taken the keys of knowledge and have hidden them. They have not entered nor have they allowed those who want to enter to do so. As for you, be as sly as snakes and as simple as doves."

102. Jesus said, "Damn the Pharisees! They are like a dog sleeping in the cattle manger: the dog neither eats nor [lets] the cattle eat."

They themselves are ignorant of Christ, but try and keep the masses in ignorance as well. Bleed the world dry. From Crusaders to the American war machine -- all the bloodshed is over dirt as far as I'm concerned.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by Bone75

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
*sigh* I knew it.

We're totally boned.


Unfortunately, yes we are. I don't think you have to be a Christian to recognize that we all have a common enemy. Christians call him Satan, I call him Money.

There will never be peace in this world as long as money exists, plain and simple. You all know I'm right.


There will never be peace in this world as long as there is a man breathing air that desires to take someone else's stuff, so obviously we are not going to save ourselves we are incapable of it. Greed, selfishness, covetousness these are all just symptoms of the disease of mankind's corrupted nature.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
All I want to do here is ask one question. Obviously, the world is in deep crap. Things are going wrong everywhere, and countries are gearing up for whatever. The only people who can save the world, is us. We have to change the world for the better. Together, not apart. And there's one sect in particular, one group, that I post this question to.

Christians, Judaics, all followers of Abrahamic faiths: What are you going to do to save this world and the people in it? What will you do to stop the coming chaos? How will you help to save our planet?

That's all.


Ya cant save something doomed to fail.

Guess I'll continue to do what Ive been doing. Live life, try to be a decent person and try to keep happyness in the people around by doing what I can for them. Other than that... Nothing.

Cant save something already destined to fail.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 07:11 PM
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OP. You have to see this from a Christian and biblical perspective. You can't look at it from a "worldly" view. To the Christian, they already have the answer to the worlds problems. Jesus Christ.

Christians are already doing what they are supposed to be doing. Preaching reconciliation to God through Jesus Christ to those who are condemned without him. So for the Christian, all other solutions are moot if the first step in solving the problem hasn't been completed. Accepting Christ.

ETA: Thanks for calling me on that Wildtimes. It needed to be reworked.
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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 07:19 PM
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Get over it already, Christ was a Jew. The world is run by satan.. take a long hard look at everything the world is united in it's hatred against.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 07:39 PM
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I so hope that people know you are being sarcastic!

Ughh.

But hey, man, you know where we are in this .....



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by Bone75
reply to post by AfterInfinity
 


Have you read the Bible?
Christians have no intention or obligation to save the world.


You claim you read the Bible. What does it say about who the Savior is?


Gee that's not a loaded question is it? You really don't want to get into that with me because the answer is debatable and at the core of why I'm not a Christian.



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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000

Originally posted by Bone75

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
*sigh* I knew it.

We're totally boned.


Unfortunately, yes we are. I don't think you have to be a Christian to recognize that we all have a common enemy. Christians call him Satan, I call him Money.

There will never be peace in this world as long as money exists, plain and simple. You all know I'm right.


There will never be peace in this world as long as there is a man breathing air that desires to take someone else's stuff, so obviously we are not going to save ourselves we are incapable of it. Greed, selfishness, covetousness these are all just symptoms of the disease of mankind's corrupted nature.


No one is trying to take or covet your stuff dude. Are you gonna follow me with your political rhetoric everywhere I go now?



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by Bone75

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000

Originally posted by Bone75

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
*sigh* I knew it.

We're totally boned.


Unfortunately, yes we are. I don't think you have to be a Christian to recognize that we all have a common enemy. Christians call him Satan, I call him Money.

There will never be peace in this world as long as money exists, plain and simple. You all know I'm right.


There will never be peace in this world as long as there is a man breathing air that desires to take someone else's stuff, so obviously we are not going to save ourselves we are incapable of it. Greed, selfishness, covetousness these are all just symptoms of the disease of mankind's corrupted nature.


No one is trying to take or covet your stuff dude. Are you gonna follow me with your political rhetoric everywhere I go now?


Always someone out to take someone elses stuff, wether it's their money, or their livelihood, their wife, their land etc. Call it what you will but it is what it is. My ancestors got the raw end of the land deal and then thrown into reservations and it was europeans killing them with diseases and stealing their land by getting them addicted to white lightning and trading their lands for whiskey. So yeah, always someone out to screw someone else out of their stuff and it's all the time and in every age. Just human beings doing what they do.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 09:36 PM
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Sorry, I don't even understand the question.

Save the world. Does that mean saving the souls of the people of the world? Protecting the environment? Saving lives?

If it's a spiritual problem, then Christians, etc. have a spiritual solution. If it's a worldly problem, hunger, illness, illiteracy, Christians have been fighting that for centuries.

But I have a fear that the OP is hiding the question, "Why don't Christians have my particular views on a hot social subject? I'm probably wrong, so I'll apologize in advance, but still ...



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000

Always someone out to take someone elses stuff, wether it's their money, or their livelihood, their wife, their land etc. Call it what you will but it is what it is. My ancestors got the raw end of the land deal and then thrown into reservations and it was europeans killing them with diseases and stealing their land by getting them addicted to white lightning and trading their lands for whiskey. So yeah, always someone out to screw someone else out of their stuff and it's all the time and in every age. Just human beings doing what they do.


My dad is full blooded Apache so I understand where you're coming from. I just don't get why you (or anyone else for that matter) won't acknowledge money as the root cause.
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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 09:52 PM
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So how do we "save the world?"

Preach peace... many of us do.

Feed the hungry... been doing that.

Help build homes and shelter... done that.

Provide blankets, cloths, diapers, shoes... done that so many times.

Give money... ok, done that.

Actually visit the inhabitants of a poor nation... help build a school... give them knowledge to grow food... sew... medicines... did that last summer.

Preach love and encouragement... forgiveness... sing songs... paint... rebuild porches and roofs... OK, did it.

Give and donate supplies to other charities and programs...freely without respect to color, creed, religion... yup.

Actually invite and temporarily house impoverished and challenged people in our home and love them and feed them and cloth them...did that too.

Cut firewood and deliver it for heat to poor families... many times done by our church.

Ok... so dear OP... what will you do to save the world?



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 10:53 PM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
All I want to do here is ask one question. Obviously, the world is in deep crap. Things are going wrong everywhere, and countries are gearing up for whatever. The only people who can save the world, is us. We have to change the world for the better. Together, not apart. And there's one sect in particular, one group, that I post this question to.


I guess you'd have to start by explaining what Christianity has to do with any of that. And what you think needs to be done to "save the world".

Change the world for the better? You already did that, it was called The Enlightenment, and it told God, and Christians, to take a flying leap, because human beings could manage things by themselves.

So I'm not sure what you're asking us to do... our idea of "changing the world for the better" obviously isn't yours.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by DarthMuerte
Our only "job" is to bring souls to Christ. The "world" is God's problem. Besides, what is there to save? The world is a horrid and disgusting place. There is no RIGHT or WRONG here. The world and the vast majority of it's inhabitants are lovers of evil, lovers of self, and haters of good. I ask again, what is there worth saving?

I beg to differ. No one needs to "bring Souls" anywhere. Souls are Sovereign, and Souls are Free, and Divine. why chain them down again? Set them free! And sorry, but Mother Earth is our problem. We were charged with Her care, and again we failed. This will make the forth time humanity has failed at such a simple thing as taking care of their Home. If this world is God's problem, he is doing a worse job than we are.

Only if all are Free, and all Stand Together will we truly be free.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 10:55 PM
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