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You have no clue how the military operates do you?
The military is not a democracy, its a fascist dictatorship with strict hierarchical structure. Therefore, if you get an order, and you disobey it, there will be disciplinary action taken.
You live in a fairy tale where military personnel can opt out of missions -.-.
Also most important and/or secret projects are split into as many groups as possible, so that no one working on it, will know what the full product/project is or how it will be used.
Therefore, if this is indeed going on, then it is most likely, military pilots, being told to fly this plane, over this route, and no more information.
Please think before you post....
Debunker: "look at these thousands of scientific sources that explain why contrails are like clouds!"
Chemmie: " Your stupid, your a disinfo agent! I know what I see! i don't need your science, I have my chicken bones I can throw against the wall to find my truth!"
Originally posted by ZombieJesus
reply to post by SpittinTruth
Hook, line, and sinker
I'll leave you with a quote from W.C. Fields
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull#.
To bad you cant even baffle with your own bull#, all you can do is regurgitate someone elses.
Originally posted by weknowall
reply to post by saige45
No, NO, NO. This has nothing to do with spoke and hub routing my friend. This isnt a tic-tac-toe board made by several planes flying out of a location or into one. This is ONE single jet literally flying 2 straight lines parallel to each other, maybe 5 miles long, then doing the same thing ACROSS those 2 lines with 2 more, therfore forming a tic-tac-toe playing board in the sky. THEN flying 5 miles or so east of that and repeating that process again. And again and again. Until after several hours you can look back across the skyline and see it totally covered by these spreading trail lines across the whole freaking sky!!!! ONE AIRPLANE!!! ONE!!!
Why? Why would a plane need to do that?
Can you explain that to me?edit on 19-7-2012 by weknowall because: cuz
Originally posted by TiM3LoRd
I always get confused with the chemtrail contrail argument.
I think to say contrails dont exist is just stupid as its clear you can see them. They are produced by the ice crystals that are formed when a jet engine tears through the upper atmosphere.
But what I dont get about chemtrails is that there are so many different theories as to why they are doing this. Like to release poisons or toxin to harm us so we get sick and have to keep buying medicines. Or to alter the weather for what ever the hell reason they want like cause floods that destroys infer structure that then needs to be rebuilt at tax payers expense.
Which is it? or are they doing both? can it be proven?
reply posted on 18-7-2012 @ 05:52 PM by tsurfer2000h
post by SpittinTruth
For such a debunker.....it looks like you got caught, with your pants down!
And how is it that I got caught with my pants down?
Well if you say so....
edit on 18-7-2012 by tsurfer2000h because: (no reason given)
The Charged Aerosol Release Experiment (CARE) was conducted by the Naval Research Laboratory and the Department of Defense...
The FA concentrations in LSCJ79 engine exhaust varies depending on the type of fuel, engine power settings, and ambient air conditions. A high FA concentration at ground level due to a change in the fuel type, low temperature, and humidity, causes frequent severe eye respiratory irritation.
Originally posted by WiseThinker
reply to post by Milkflavour
I agree, that Soldiers have free will, however, if you joined the Army, you did agree to them controlling you, until you opt out of the Army (im saying you cannot simply opt out of one mission).
And you clearly didn't read what you even quoted. As i stated, then if this is going on (spreading of chemtrails) then it stands to reason, that the whole process and been compartmentalized like other high priority military projects, to prevent information to get out, limit whistle blowers and to prevent the left hand from knowing what left hand is doing.
That way, the pilots spreading the Chemicals, have no clue what they are doing.
Read before you post, goodness this thread is a mess.
Originally posted by WiseThinker
Now i argue neither for nor against the chem-trails, however do not dumb down chemtrail believers to rednecks with to much time, just like the mainstream labels us tin foil hats.
I agree, there are videos on youtube, that make the whole chem trail scenario seam implausible, and in some cases videos where they are blatantly claiming contrails to be "chemtrails", and those who claim every thing is a chemtrail. But lets be honest, i can find videos completely miss representing pretty much any theory on here, making is sound like utter BS.
However, i can tell you, that those who truly believe in chem trails and went done their research believe along these lines :
1. First of, only a few, unmarked and specially fitted airplanes spread the Chemicals
2. Contrails are normal, and can cause cloud cover
3. Will refer to instances, when the unmarked planes, did checker patterns back and forth (with multiple visible U turns, just back and fourth)
4. Incidents, where after checkered sky, local epidemics start (Only very few of these)
So they do NOT believe, that every single aircraft is part of a depopulation conspiracy, nor do they deny contrails, or the lasting effect of them. They are claiming a conspiracy, where the military or private companies, are flying with specially fitted passenger planes which have been fitted with chem tanks instead.
Namasteedit on 18/7/12 by WiseThinker because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Paul Rubino
Originally posted by SpittinTruth:
Again, i say....it's on you...to make me a believer. IT's not on me to make you one. I don't care if you don't believe "chemtrails"/"geo-engineering"/weather manipulation/weather warfare, is real. It is what it is. YOU have to wake up, to those FACTS by RESEARCHING them.....for YOURSELF.
Allow me to translate:
I can't provide evidence to support my chemtrail beliefs. You can't provide evidence to support my chemtrail beliefs. Therefore I'm right and you're wrong.
Let me give you a better translation.....YOUR MINDS ARE LOPSIDED...or shall i say.....1 sided. Nothing, anyone one of you contrail believers have posted...is 100% concrete evidence. There's more HOLES in your theory, than that of 9-11.
It's also funny how everyone wants to attack my posts; almost forcing me to believe you. Why? Why do i have to believe what you say? Why is what you say "right" and what i say "wrong". I say 1 thing, and 3 or 4 other people want to chime in, and say: "no, no, no"!!! Why? Are you trying to squash what i'm saying....because what i'm saying (and many others like me are saying) is FACT? Facts you refuse to research for yourself. You want me to spend time out of my day, to get links and quotes for you? I've already done my research! Why do i have to do yours also? Don't tell me, you're the type of person that only checks out the 1st page...when you do a 'search'?
You probably still believe in the "official story". lol Move on already. You're certainly not mature enough to talk Tesla; or technology. You got an i-pod and you still write on tablets of stone.
BTW: how do those cell phones transmit their signal.
I may be ignorant....but you're highly uneducated!
edit on 19-7-2012 by Paul Rubino because: Typos
Originally posted by Uncinus
Originally posted by chadderson
reply to post by Uncinus
So non chemical trails can create clouds. Ok.
But the issue here is that most chemtrail believers, especially those who promote the theory with their "documentaries" claim that non-chemical trails cannot, or that it's incredibly rare. This shows they are wrong. And this has been pointed out to them so many times that it's quite difficult to claim they are not lying.
Ask any hardcore chemtrailer - they will tell you "contrails quickly dissipate, chemtrails spread out to cover the sky". They are wrong, they have been lied to.