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Originally posted by GhostLancer
Originally posted by Uncinus
Can you explain why you think that? It appears to contradict all known physics and history of water and contrails.
That's a nice, neat, compact statement that in and of itself has nothing factual in it but an unbacked assertion. You state that it "appears to contradict all known physics and history fo water and contrails" says that you are not aware of "all nown physics and history of water adn contrails."
At least in my assertions I stated that there are, of course, exceptions to the examples I provided. Yours is such a sweeping statement that it is almost certainly false.
Originally posted by GhostLancer
So far, theories about cloud-seeding exist,
Originally posted by GhostLancer
Originally posted by goou111
i posted this way back on page 7 and no one has answerd it yet
i have 1 question for believers
what the hell are the "chemtrails" doing to us?
shouldnt all the old people be dead by now ?
im 40 why am i still here ive been breathing there s--- my whole life
You are asking questions that the general public doesn't have the answers to because OBVIOUSLY this is a secret program. Only the people in the know truly KNOW what the reasons are.
Originally posted by GhostLancer]
There could be many reasons for this program. Use your imagination to try to estimate why this would be happening?
The FACT is that planes are spraying/releasing UNKNOWN substances into the atmosphere for UNKNOWN reasons by UNKNOWN people.
Originally posted by GhostLancer]
This is not a case-closed SOLVED mystery. This is a modern, open-ended concern. Shills and "debunkers" here try to avert efforts or create straw-man arguments in order to ridicule and obfuscate (confuse) the issue.
......... Why dismiss and ignore evidence, going for tidbits to dispute as if that dismisses the entirety of the whole?
Originally posted by GhostLancer
Originally posted by goou111
i posted this way back on page 7 and no one has answerd it yet
i have 1 question for believers
what the hell are the "chemtrails" doing to us?
shouldnt all the old people be dead by now ?
im 40 why am i still here ive been breathing there s--- my whole life
ok 3 questionsedit on 21-7-2012 by goou111 because: (no reason given)
You are asking questions that the general public doesn't have the answers to because OBVIOUSLY this is a secret program. Only the people in the know truly KNOW what the reasons are. There could be many reasons for this program. Use your imagination to try to estimate why this would be happening?
So far, theories about cloud-seeding exist, but that might just be cover story material. Einstein himself said that "Imagination is more important than knowledge." So, exercise that noodle of yours to come up with answers to your own questions. If we had the answers, then there may or may not be a controversy. The FACT is that planes are spraying/releasing UNKNOWN substances into the atmosphere for UNKNOWN reasons by UNKNOWN people. We're trying to figure this out, right? Or have you already made up your mind in the fashion of, "Don't bother me with the evidence, I've already made up my mind." ???
This is not a case-closed SOLVED mystery. This is a modern, open-ended concern. Shills and "debunkers" here try to avert efforts or create straw-man arguments in order to ridicule and obfuscate (confuse) the issue. This environment of confusion and misdirection allows TPTB (The Powers That Be) to operate more freely, furthering their hidden agendas while keeping the sleeping masses unaware, uncertain, unsure and living in fear.
Why attack the investigation of such a mystery? Why ridicule? Why dismiss and ignore evidence, going for tidbits to dispute as if that dismisses the entirety of the whole?
Really? And you take the government's information as gospel to disprove/debunk a theory that states SAID GOVERNMENT is spraying chemicals over our cities? So, you are willing to take their word for the latest on Morgellon's disease? Wow. I am awestruck.
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This is an example of the classic "debunker" tactic of attacking the person, not the idea. When at a loss with facts and examples, go for the person, not the ideas/theories presented.
Originally posted by Advancedboy
Don`t run away from this video. We know that persistent contrails can be formed only at high alittudes, so we must assume that the contrails seen in this video are at alittude 8-10 km in troposphere. Just tell me who left these so called contrails there?
www.youtube.com...
Originally posted by Advancedboy
Don`t run away from this video. We know that persistent contrails can be formed only at high alittudes, so we must assume that the contrails seen in this video are at alittude 8-10 km in troposphere. Just tell me who left these so called contrails there?
www.youtube.com...
Originally posted by GhostLancer
Originally posted by Uncinus
Originally posted by GhostLancer
Okay, let me rephrase in simpler terms: The WHITE STUFF that comes out of jetliners that looks like thin, vaprous clouds NORMALLY disperses quickly unless there is more to it that water vapor --or ice crystals--- or whatever that "normal" stuff consists of. That's what I meant when I said water vapor. I mis-wrote.
Can you explain why you think that? It appears to contradict all known physics and history of water and contrails.
That's a nice, neat, compact statement that in and of itself has nothing factual in it but an unbacked assertion. You state that it "appears to contradict all known physics and history fo water and contrails" says that you are not aware of "all nown physics and history of water adn contrails."
At least in my assertions I stated that there are, of course, exceptions to the examples I provided. Yours is such a sweeping statement that it is almost certainly false.
Originally posted by nihilistnick
Originally posted by Thorazine
Originally posted by GhostLancer
according to the information that has been presented to me, it is indeed a fact that jet contrails disperse rather quickly as they are a thin streak of water vapor in a large, expansive sky.
Alas, said information is wrong...contrails are NOT water vapor...water VAPOR is invisible...a contrails gets its name from the aforementioned vapor condensing into droplets- which then freeze into ice crystals...because its well below zero at typical flight levels...
scholar.google.com...
One thing you have to understand is that many of these planes are flying way too low for the freezing air to cause ice crystals to form. I've seen it with my own friggin' eyes. I'm just looking for an explanation - To why I see distinct lines in the sky with clear start and stop points which trashes your theory of high-altitude planes, unless you expect them to magically jump from high altitude to a lower one when the trail suddenly disappears. It can even be seen with high-altitude planes with two contrails. One quickly dissipating, and the other starting and stopping. I see them flying over Athens every once and a while. Especially evening time in downtown Athens while everyone's flocking to the bars. And they'll be everywhere by morning time, if not a hazy fog that envelops the area for a few days at a time. The weather is strange for summer time here in Georgia. Lite sprinkles over foggy skies or upper atmosphere thunder without any noise. Anyone will common sense and two eyes will realize there is at least something quirky going on. Who are you working for buddy? Because I'm working for truth - Seeking the truth and defending the curious.
It's kind of like: if you keep ice-cream in a working freezer, operating below freezing, then the ice-cream will not melt. It's that basic. Not only is it physics, it's also backed up by the history and personal experience of millions of people with freezers.
Originally posted by Milkflavour
It's kind of like: if you keep ice-cream in a working freezer, operating below freezing, then the ice-cream will not melt. It's that basic. Not only is it physics, it's also backed up by the history and personal experience of millions of people with freezers.
Haha... This made me laugh... It's also a fantastic way of explaining the science behind it... Very nice..
I will say though, you're wasting your time... This kind of conspiracy theory has the same make-up as religious beliefs. You're never going to change a believer's mind with mere facts. Any evidence to the contrary will be dismissed as either inaccurate or deliberate misinformation, which of course you cannot disprove (because it's impossible- see: Russel's teapot on this subject). The ONLY way that this argument could be closed for believers is that they are proved 100%, beyond any doubt correct, and, as this will never happen (because it's tosh) this argument will persist indefinitely (you can apply this to pretty much any other conspiracy theory on here a well seeing as they mostly rely on anecdotal evidence and creative interpretation/blatant disregard of the available information).edit on 21-7-2012 by Milkflavour because: Fixed quote
I'd agree there for the "true believers" - they won't change, or it they do it's because they change very slowly over the years. But there's are plenty of other people who have simply been taken in because it initially sounds reasonable. Plenty of people who are unnecessarily scared or wasting time because of the hoax. So it's useful for them.
We sprayed extreme
There are three crop dusters flown in formation
Originally posted by nihilistnick
reply to post by Thorazine
Your argument carries little weight. But reading your past posts point out your cunning argumentative skills in ignoring plausible evidence and video footage (and there ARE videos of low-altitude planes laying chemtrails from the tail - not the engines where the hot air would cause water vapor to condense), to which you respond by pointing out little meaningless facts. You fail to address how a plane can have dual chemtrails, both from the engines that quickly dissipate, and one from the tail which NEVER dissipates. The wind blows it around until it turns into a fog. And you, nor I, will ever explain why a small unmarked plane (WITHOUT A CONTRAIL OF ANY KIND because it was so low, obviously monitoring us and going up and down the river looking for kayaks) sprayed a clear line of chemicals with a start and stop point directly above us (perpendicular) at extremely low altitude - be it heavy metals or some kind of neurotoxin - while a friend and I were kayaking, as I clearly discussed in my first post here. It would make sense that the government or some agency would disperse some kind of chemical for ominous means above the Broad River, as its a common place for hippies, stoners, and especially trippers to go hang out and hallucinate. Open your eyes man. This isn't some kind of religion that people believe in. This is something that the government (you perhaps?) doesn't want you to notice or ask any questions about. I'm curious - how much are they paying you? Or are you just suckered into believing everything you hear on the news the disinformation other counter intelligence agents put out there? I sense there will be no reconciliation in this argument and its futile to keep arguing with you idiots.
Stay cool,
Nick
Your argument carries little weight. But reading your past posts point out your cunning argumentative skills in ignoring plausible evidence and video footage (and there ARE videos of low-altitude planes laying chemtrails from the tail - not the engines where the hot air would cause water vapor to condense), to which you respond by pointing out little meaningless facts. You fail to address how a plane can have dual chemtrails, both from the engines that quickly dissipate, and one from the tail which NEVER dissipates.
Originally posted by nihilistnick
reply to post by Thorazine
Your argument carries little weight. But reading your past posts point out your cunning argumentative skills in ignoring plausible evidence and video footage (and there ARE videos of low-altitude planes laying chemtrails from the tail - not the engines where the hot air would cause water vapor to condense), to which you respond by pointing out little meaningless facts. You fail to address how a plane can have dual chemtrails, both from the engines that quickly dissipate, and one from the tail which NEVER dissipates. The wind blows it around until it turns into a fog. And you, nor I, will ever explain why a small unmarked plane (WITHOUT A CONTRAIL OF ANY KIND because it was so low, obviously monitoring us and going up and down the river looking for kayaks) sprayed a clear line of chemicals with a start and stop point directly above us (perpendicular) at extremely low altitude - be it heavy metals or some kind of neurotoxin - while a friend and I were kayaking, as I clearly discussed in my first post here. It would make sense that the government or some agency would disperse some kind of chemical for ominous means above the Broad River, as its a common place for hippies, stoners, and especially trippers to go hang out and hallucinate. Open your eyes man. This isn't some kind of religion that people believe in. This is something that the government (you perhaps?) doesn't want you to notice or ask any questions about. I'm curious - how much are they paying you?
Stay cool,
Nick
And you, nor I, will ever explain why a small unmarked plane (WITHOUT A CONTRAIL OF ANY KIND because it was so low, obviously monitoring us and going up and down the river looking for kayaks) sprayed a clear line of chemicals with a start and stop point directly above us (perpendicular) at extremely low altitude - be it heavy metals or some kind of neurotoxin - while a friend and I were kayaking, as I clearly discussed in my first post here. It would make sense that the government or some agency would disperse some kind of chemical for ominous means above the Broad River, as its a common place for hippies, stoners, and especially trippers to go hang out and hallucinate.
According to Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) regulations, please be advised that BCMC may conduct aerial spray missions during daylight hours from July 16 - 20, 2012. We use low-flying aircraft to apply Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)-registered public health insecticides during ideal weather. We do not treat the salt marsh habitats for adult mosquitoes during these aerial operations.
HORRY COUNTY, SC (WMBF) Horry County is planning aerial mosquito spraying, weather permitting, in two communities Thursday.
Due to the recent confirmed reports of Eastern Equine Encephalitis (EEE) in two horses in Horry County, the Horry County Stormwater Department will conduct aerial mosquito spraying Thursday night in Galivants Ferry and Nichols.