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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 01:20 PM
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Both the UK and USA military have admitted to spraying all sorts of things on the unsuspecting civilian populaces . There is no conspiracy about that but we don't know what they are conspiring to do next !




posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 01:20 PM
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Many people claim that is elevated levels of barium, strontium and aluminium, that is a giveaway. Wrong. It is the combination of these three. if the latter three can be found worldwide, it certainly is a matter of suspicion. Especially, when Barium and Aluminium is described in patents as the material to be used for executing ` water binding` in order to create artificial haze, etc.

What is the difference of contraills from chemtrails- 1.Timelapse videos.
They blatantly show that these so called normal contrails bind unbelievable amount of humidity, creating artificial haze. persistency - lingering contrails for more than 5 hours .
2. Coincidental contrail activity near the corona of sun. Or active contrailing in the wind, that incidentally carries the contrail haze over covering the sun, if viewed from a populated area.
3. Amount of contrails over large populated areas. persisitng contrails can be created at high altitude by certain low temperatures and humidity levels. it would be strange that airplanes approaching or departing an airport near big cities would hit 8-10 km mark so rapidly creating persistent contrails.
4. Lack of persisitng contrails over Cuba, North korea , Prypiat and Myak combine region . As if physics of persisting contrails wouldn`t work there. And nowhere near the vicinity of large arrays of Atacama.
5. Curved lines, parobolas, and crosses covering exactly sun, as viewed from populated areas.
6.Jittery and chaotic gridlines when spraying executed by private companies.
7. All necessary pre-requisites in go mode, seemingly in ` pending mode`. No ancillary technology of unknown principles needed.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by Advancedboy
Many people claim that is elevated levels of barium, strontium and aluminium, that is a giveaway. Wrong. It is the combination of these three. if the latter three can be found worldwide, it certainly is a matter of suspicion. Especially, when Barium and Aluminium is described in patents as the material to be used for executing ` water binding` in order to create artificial haze, etc.

What is the difference of contraills from chemtrails- 1.Timelapse videos.
They blatantly show that these so called normal contrails bind unbelievable amount of humidity, creating artificial haze. persistency - lingering contrails for more than 5 hours .
2. Coincidental contrail activity near the corona of sun. Or active contrailing in the wind, that incidentally carries the contrail haze over covering the sun, if viewed from a populated area.
3. Amount of contrails over large populated areas. persisitng contrails can be created at high altitude by certain low temperatures and humidity levels. it would be strange that airplanes approaching or departing an airport near big cities would hit 8-10 km mark so rapidly creating persistent contrails.
4. Lack of persisitng contrails over Cuba, North korea , Prypiat and Myak combine region . As if physics of persisting contrails wouldn`t work there. And nowhere near the vicinity of large arrays of Atacama.
5. Curved lines, parobolas, and crosses covering exactly sun, as viewed from populated areas.
6.Jittery and chaotic gridlines when spraying executed by private companies.
7. All necessary pre-requisites in go mode, seemingly in ` pending mode`. No ancillary technology of unknown principles needed.


Speculation and opinion.

Also, I've seen this argument before, covering the sun? That is about perspective right? If a jet leaves a trail between the viewer on the ground and the sun, another view 20 miles away will not see the trail as covering the sun, so what is the point of that?



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by Advancedboy

2. Coincidental contrail activity near the corona of sun.
4. Lack of persisitng contrails over Cuba, North korea ,



You do understand that what is "near the corona of the sun" to you is not to someone else looking at the same contrail from a different location/perspective....right?

How do you know there is no persistent contrails over NKorea?



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by seabhac-rua
reply to post by HIWATT
 


Maybe you should read though this thread.

What you say in your post is valid, but it proves nothing. Nobody said that this theory is too whacky to be true, we're all members on ATS here. What this discussion is about is evidence. You got any, or is it just your opinion?


Solid, hard, irrefutable evidence definitively stating "WE ARE SPRAYING COMPOUNDS INTO THE ATMOSPHERE AND THIS IS WHY" ?

No. I do not. Much like anyone who believes this is all a farce has any proving it ISN'T.

I disagree what I said in my post "proves nothing". It absolutely without any doubt proves that the government combined with some of the largest corporations have been discussing this exact scenario for decades.
As I said there are countless references to it in the kazilliuon threads on the topic here - with links to patents, and other documents as evidence what we are discussing here is being taken very seriously by those planning and (in my educated opinion) already executing it.

Yes, it is my opinion, based on paper trails reaching back decades, that large scale geo-engineering is happening right now. The reason why any of us are even discussing it, is the secrecy surrounding it, not whether it is happening or not.

I don't read these entire threads any more. I don't have to. I know that 90% of the discussion here are about 5 or 6 prominent members dissecting and "debunking" minor details posted unwittingly by others, just to muddy the thread and redirect and disrupt any real discussion about the truth of the matter.

It's the worst kind of Ignorance. WILFUL.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 01:45 PM
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Would the government do anything detrimental to civilian people of other country similar to chemtrailing/cloudseeding?. yes. operation `Popeye`.Viet Nam.
Would government do anything detrimental to its own population similar to chemtrailing/cloudseeding? Yes, cadmium spraying over East Anglia in UK.
Right, some people doubt, where would they have resources to execute such a large program. here is an example, it is what a single company does in cloudseeding business. What could stop them participating in chemtrailing if certain factions provided funding?

NORTH AMERICAN WEATHER CONSULTANTS OPERATIONAL CLOUD SEEDING PROGRAMS

Partial Listing (through April 2011)





Project Area: Gunnison County, Colorado

Sponsor: Gunnison County

Technique: Ground based silver iodide seeding

Time Period: 2003-present

Goal: Enhanced winter precipitation for irrigation water

supplies

Project Area: Little Cottonwood Canyon, Utah

Sponsor: Alta and Snowbird Ski Areas

Technique: Ground based silver iodide seeding

Time Period: 1996 – present

Goal: Enhanced winter snowfall for skiing

Project Area: Wellsville and Wasatch Mountains of Northern

Utah

Sponsor: Utah Division of Water Resources and Cache

County

Technique: Ground based silver iodide seeding

Time Period: 1997 – 2000, 2002-present

Goal: Enhanced winter precipitation for irrigation water

supplies

Project Area: Upper Ogden River and Lost Creek

Watersheds, Utah

Sponsor: Weber Basin Water Conservancy District and Utah

Division of Water Resources

Technique: Ground based and airborne silver iodide seeding

Time Period: 1991 – 1993

Goal: Enhanced winter precipitation for irrigation water

supplies

Project Area: Upper San Joaquin River Drainage, Southern

Sierra Nevada of California

Sponsor: Southern California Edison Company

Technique: Ground based and airborne silver iodide seeding

with radar surveillance

Time Period: 1951 – 1987 and 1990 – 1992

Goal: Enhanced winter and summer precipitation for

hydroelectric power production

Project Area: Mountain Watersheds in Central and Southern

Utah

Sponsor: Utah Water Resources Development Corporation

Utah Division of Water Resources, 13 Utah

Counties

Technique: Airborne and ground based silver iodide seeding

Time Period: 1973 – 1983, 1987, 1988-present

Goal: Enhanced winter precipitation for irrigation water

supplies

Project Area: Bear Lake Drainage, Smith & Thomas Forks,

Southwestern Wyoming and Southeastern

Idaho

Sponsor: Utah Power and Light Company

Technique: Ground based silver iodide seeding

Time Period: 1954 – 1970; 1979 – 1982, 1989 – 1990

Goal: Enhanced winter precipitation for hydroelectric

power production

Project Area: Santa Barbara County, California

Sponsor: Santa Barbara County Water Agency

Technique: Ground based and airborne silver iodide seeding

with radar surveillance; ground-based flare

seeding

Time Period: 1950-1953; 1955; 1956-1960; 1978; 1982 – 1997;

2002-2007; 2008-present

Goal: Enhanced winter precipitation for municipal and

agricultural water supplies

Project Area: Grouse Creek, Raft River, Wellsville and

Wasatch Mountains of Northern Utah

Sponsor: Utah Water Resources Development

Corporation,Utah Division of Water Resources,

and Cache and Box Elder Counties

Technique: Ground based silver iodide seeding

Time Period: 1989 – 1997, 2001-present

Goal: Enhanced winter precipitation for irrigation water

supplies

Project Area: Provo and Weber River Drainages in Western

Uinta Mountains of Utah

Sponsor: Utah Water Resources Development Corporation,

Utah Division of Water Resources, Provo River

Water Users Association and Weber Basin Water

Conservancy District

Technique: Ground based silver iodide seeding

Time Period: 1989 – 1995, 2000-present

Goal: Enhanced winter precipitation for irrigation water

supplies

Project Area: Wasatch Mountains in Eastern Salt Lake

County, Utah

Sponsor: Utah Water Resources Development Corporation;

Utah Division of Water Resources; Salt Lake City

Water Division; and Alta, Brighton, and Snowbird

Ski Areas

Technique: Ground based silver iodide seeding

Time Period: 1989 – 1996

Goal: Enhanced winter precipitation for municipal water

supplies

Project Area: Upper Kings River Drainage in the Southern

Sierra Nevada of California

Sponsor: Kings River Conservation District and Kings River

Water Users Association

Technique: Airborne and ground based silver iodide seeding

with radar surveillance

Time Period: 1989 – 1993, 2007-present

Goal: Enhanced winter precipitation for irrigation water

supplies

Project Area: Upper Feather River Drainage in the Northern

Sierra Nevada of California

Sponsor: California Department of Water Resources

Technique: Airborne silver iodide seeding with radar

surveillance

Time Period: 1989

Goal: Enhanced winter precipitation for municipal and

irrigation water supplies

Project Area: Grand Mesa and West Elk Mountains of

Western Colorado

Sponsor: Grand Mesa Water Users Association

Technique: Ground based silver iodide seeding

Time Period: 1990 – 1991

Goal: Enhanced winter precipitation for irrigation water

supplies

Project Area: San Gabriel Mountains, California

Sponsor: Los Angeles County Flood Control District

Technique: Ground based silver iodide seeding

Time Period: 1959 – 1973, 1991 – 1993, 1997-2001

Goal: Enhanced winter precipitation for municipal water

supplies

Project Area: Bannock, Portneuf and Bear River Mountain

Ranges of Southeastern Idaho

Sponsor: Bear River RC&D and Bannock, Bear Lake,

Caribou, Franklin, and Oneida Counties

Technique: Ground based silver iodide seeding

Time Period: 1988 – 1989, 1992, 1993

Goal: Enhanced winter precipitation for irrigation water

supplies

Project Area: Uinta Mountains of Northeastern Utah

Sponsor: Uinta County, Duchesne County and

Utah Division of Water Resources

Technique: Airborne and ground based silver iodide seeding

Time Period: 1977, 1989, 2003-present

Goal: Increased winter spring, and summer precipitation

for irrigation water supplies

Project Area: Boise River Drainage, Idaho

Sponsor: Boise Project Board of Control

Technique: Ground based silver iodide seeding

Time Period: 1992 – 1996, 2002-2005, 2007-present

Goal: Enhanced winter precipitation for irrigation water

supplies and hydroelectric power production

Project Area: Willow Creek Drainage, Colorado

Sponsor: Northern Colorado Water Conservancy District

Technique: Ground based silver iodide seeding

Time Period: 1992 – 1995

Goal: Enhanced winter precipitation for irrigation water

supplies

Project Area: Higher Elevation Watersheds of Nine Eastern

Idaho Counties and One Western Wyoming

County

Sponsor: High Country RC&D

Technique: Ground based silver iodide seeding

Time Period: 1993, 1995

Goal: Enhanced winter precipitation for irrigation water

supplies

Project Area: Santa Clara County, California

Sponsor: Santa Clara Valley Water District

Technique: Airborne silver iodide seeding with radar

surveillance

Time Period: 1992

Goal: Enhanced winter precipitation for municipal water

supplies

Project Area: Mornos River Drainage, Greece

Sponsor: Greater Athens Water Authority

Technique: Airborne silver iodide seeding with radar

surveillance

Time Period: 1992, 1993

Goal: Enhanced winter precipitation for municipal water

supplies

Project Area: Chixoy River Drainage, Guatemala, C. A.

Sponsor: Empresa Electrica and Instituto Nacional de

Electrificacion

Technique: Airborne and ground based silver iodide seeding

with radar surveillance

Time Period: 1991, 1992, 1994

Goal: Enhanced summer precipitation for hydroelectric

power production

Project Area: El Cajon Drainage Basins, Honduras, C. A.

Sponsor: Empresa Nacional De Energia Electrica

Technique: Airborne and ground based silver iodide seeding

with radar surveillance

Time Period: 1993, 1994, 1995, 1997

Goal: Enhanced summer precipitation for hydroelectric

power production

Project Area: Tsengwen Dam Drainage, Taiwan

Sponsor: Taiwan Central Weather Bureau

Technique: Ground based silver iodide seeding

Time Period: 1992, 1994

Goal: Enhanced summer precipitation for irrigation water

supplies

Project Area: West Central Texas Near San Angelo

Sponsor: City of San Angelo, Texas

Technique: Airborne silver iodide seeding with radar

surveillance

Time Period: 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988

Goal: Enhanced summer precipitation for municipal

water supplies

Project Area: Edwards Plateau Northwest of San Antonio

Sponsor: Edwards Underground Water District, San

Antonio, Texas

Technique: Airborne silver iodide seeding with radar

surveillance

Time Period: 1985, 1986

Goal: Enhanced summer precipitation for municipal

water supplies

Project Area: South Central Texas North of Corpus Christi

Sponsor: City of Corpus Christi, Texas

Technique: Airborne silver iodide seeding with radar

surveillance

Time Period: 1985

Goal: Enhanced summer precipitation for municipal

water supplies

Project Area: Pine Valley Mountains in Southwestern Utah

Sponsor: Washington County Water Conservancy District

and Utah Division of Water Resources

Technique: Ground based silver iodide seeding

Time Period: 1985-1987

Goal: Enhanced winter precipitation for municipal and

irrigation water supplies

Project Area: Southern Delaware

Sponsor: Delaware Department of Agriculture

Here are the cloud seeding ( chemtrailing) programmes for continental United States just by a single company- North American Weather Consultants.
Technique: Airborne silver iodide seeding with radar

surveillance

Time Period: 1985

Goal: Enhanced summer precipitation for agricultural land.

Here are the cloud seeding ( chemtrailing) programmes for continental United States just by a single company- North American Weather Consultants.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 01:55 PM
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Here are the cloud seeding ( chemtrailing) programmes for continental United States just by a single company- North American Weather Consultants.


Here is what North American Weather Consultants says:

How is the cloud seeding accomplished?

Cloud seeding materials are released via ground-based and/or airborne systems (see pictures). Determination of the best suited method or combination of methods for a given project is based upon an assessment of a variety of factors. The seeding materials are applied to the clouds (sometimes targeted very carefully into very specific portions of clouds) so that the material has adequate time to affect the precipitation process, so the effect will be focused over the intended geographic area.

www.nawcinc.com...


Cloud seeding has nothing to do with "chemtrails". Cloud seeding does not create clouds. Cloud seeding is done in localized areas. Cloud seeding is done under (and in) existing clouds.
Here is a cloud seeder in action. Doesn't' look much like "chemtrails".


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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 01:57 PM
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you are not confusing cloud seeding with "chemtrails" are you?

Cloud seeding is clearly not secret, been done for decades, doesn't involve jets at high altitude, doesn't involve persistent trails, doesn't create clouds- they release silver iodide into already existing rain clouds to try and enhance precip- done with small planes at mid level altitudes...and often done from the ground.

How does this bear evidence to the "chemtrail" theory?

Grasping at Straw(men) are we?
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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 01:59 PM
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Explain this 1969 Issue of Popular Science

Ok....there was corruption back then just like there is now, just because its in 1969 doesnt mean anything. Alot of people get contrails mixed up with chemtrails. I've seen chemtrails I know there real, was a giant net in the sky over my town as far as your eyes could see. There was no way those were contrails unless some air show was going on at 6 am because they were everywhere it seriously looked like a giant net in the sky.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 01:59 PM
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Well your post, as I said, proves nothing.

Geo-engineering of course has been discussed, nobody denies that.
That there has been a massive and costly worlwide operation underway since the late nineties involving thousands of people, thousands of aircraft, costing billions, right under our noses, and the only evidence is such as has been presented in this thread? I'm not convinced.

Don't make the mistake of labeling people who don't buy into this theory as ignorant, I'm not an ignorant person, I personally have paid a lot of attention to this and other subjects over the last few years, and like I said I'm not convinced. If you say certain people are ignorant, I'm gonna say certain people are gullible and stupid.

Your opinion is your opinion.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by Advancedboy
Many people claim that is elevated levels of barium, strontium and aluminium, that is a giveaway. Wrong. It is the combination of these three. if the latter three can be found worldwide, it certainly is a matter of suspicion. Especially, when Barium and Aluminium is described in patents as the material to be used for executing ` water binding` in order to create artificial haze, etc.

What is the difference of contraills from chemtrails- 1.Timelapse videos.
They blatantly show that these so called normal contrails bind unbelievable amount of humidity, creating artificial haze. persistency - lingering contrails for more than 5 hours .
2. Coincidental contrail activity near the corona of sun. Or active contrailing in the wind, that incidentally carries the contrail haze over covering the sun, if viewed from a populated area.
3. Amount of contrails over large populated areas. persisitng contrails can be created at high altitude by certain low temperatures and humidity levels. it would be strange that airplanes approaching or departing an airport near big cities would hit 8-10 km mark so rapidly creating persistent contrails.
4. Lack of persisitng contrails over Cuba, North korea , Prypiat and Myak combine region . As if physics of persisting contrails wouldn`t work there. And nowhere near the vicinity of large arrays of Atacama.
5. Curved lines, parobolas, and crosses covering exactly sun, as viewed from populated areas.
6.Jittery and chaotic gridlines when spraying executed by private companies.
7. All necessary pre-requisites in go mode, seemingly in ` pending mode`. No ancillary technology of unknown principles needed.
Well swing some of those defined in 2-4 my way, im tired of the sun right now and live in a heavily popluated area. I wanna go swimming but dont want to get a sunburn, gimme some shade.

You do realize the the apparent speed of the sun across the sky (depending on your location) is anywhere from ~0/mph to ~1021/mph. Add to that the wind speed at any given elevation and you have literally *blown* your argument to hoax land.

-saige-



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by Evanzsayz



Explain this 1969 Issue of Popular Science

Ok....there was corruption back then just like there is now, just because its in 1969 doesnt mean anything. Alot of people get contrails mixed up with chemtrails. I've seen chemtrails I know there real, was a giant net in the sky over my town as far as your eyes could see. There was no way those were contrails unless some air show was going on at 6 am because they were everywhere it seriously looked like a giant net in the sky.


It does mean that contrails persisted and spread back in 1969- contrary to the claims of Believers that contrails don't persist and never have...So, it is establishing precedent that does mean something.


...and since contrails often DO persist and spread and cover the sky in a haze of cirrus cloud...how do you know what you saw that morning was not simply the result of early morning air traffic?? With over 50,000 flight per day in the US and 5000 planes in the sky at any given moment...it doesn't take but 5-10 flights to cover the sky in a contrails if conditions are conducive to contrail persistence...



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 02:21 PM
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With over 50,000 flight per day

Well if its all just normal then why don't I see it everyday? Only seen it once.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 02:21 PM
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With over 50,000 flight per day

Well if its all just normal then why don't I see it everyday? Only seen it once.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by Evanzsayz
reply to post by Thorazine
 





With over 50,000 flight per day

Well if its all just normal then why don't I see it everyday? Only seen it once.


it has to do with the weather conditions at flight level...some days conditions are ripe for persistent contrails, some days ripe for dissipating contrails, some days no contrails, some days all 3 in the same sky.

The conditions vary from altitude to altitude, spot to spot, hour to hour, day to day etc...the atmosphere is a dynamic place.



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 02:41 PM
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I do know that cloud seeding is different from chemtrailing. I showed it to merely portray an execution potential of similar programs, in case people doubt the feasibility of scale. Go back to the link I showed to the video compilation I had. there were 3 pages of them. Watch each video carefully , and you will draw your conclusions. pay attention to time lapse videos.

Want some proof of chemtrailing done by military or private companies? There-

www.youtube.com...
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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by Advancedboy
I do know that cloud seeding is different from chemtrailing. I showed it to merely portray an execution potential of similar programs, in case people doubt the feasibility of scale. Go back to the link I showed to the video compilation I had. there were 3 pages of them. Watch each video carefully , and you will draw your conclusions. pay attention to time lapse videos.

Want some proof of chemtrailing done by military or private companies? There-

www.youtube.com...
edit on 08.15.09 by Advancedboy because: (no reason given)


Except that cloudseeding is done on a regional and local basis with small entities such as farmers' co-ops and water districts hiring the companies...and the actual deployment is rather small as it requires one or 2 small planes making one or 2 flights targeting specific storm cells...

comparing that scale to a supposed global operation daily...over 15yrs involving 1000s of planes and personnel is just not a logical extrapolation.

As for your video- why do you call it "chemtrailing" simply based on the path of the plane? The flight path does not bear evidence as to the contents of the trail. That is a confirmation bias...

There are any number of reason why a plane might fly that path..just because it did so and left a persistent contrail does not mean it is a "chemtrail" ...it certainly isn't "proof"

see here for other examples:

contrailscience.com...

contrailscience.com...
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posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 03:11 PM
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The fact one must drudge up from the recesses of popular culture a snippet of non-peer reviewed "science" in the name of debunking the most obvious deceit of weather modification in modern times, is ludicrous. This whole post smells fishier than fish! CoIntelPro anyone? ATS reeks of senseless disinformation these days. While kayaking in North Georgia (Broad river) with a friend, we personally witnessed a small, unmarked black plane flying parallel along the river to look for kayaks I suppose, as we were the first ones out that day around 9:30 am, then it circled back and crossed us perpendicular less than a mile ahead of us. It had no visible contrail until it started to dissipate a "chemtrail" (whatever you want to call it) across the river and then it very cleanly ended and the plane flew away. As we floated down the river, this trail began to spread out in width and eventually shaded the sun from our eyes as we passed below it. This was in April/May If I remember correctly. If they were trying to provide a little shade form the sun for a few minutes, I thank them. Otherwise I can only guess as to what it was they were releasing from the plane. We felt no kind of illness or sickness, but only a slight headache a few hours later - probably from the heat. You might not believe this, but when we went kayaking in March we, along with another couple floating not far from us, witnessed what looked like a gray F-18 flying low across the river diagonal to it. We could hear for about 10 seconds before if whisked away before our eyes heading West. 5-10 minutes later we caught up with the couple and asked if they had seen it too, as we pointed up to the sky. Then, out of friggin nowhere, without warning or sound of any approach, it just dropped out the sky at immense speed from the same direction it come from in the first pass. Then it disappeared and we shouted with disbelief and couldn't stop laughing. At first I thought that the jet must have had some kind of technology to listen in on conversations from above, but then I realized it HAD to have been me pointing up to the sky to which the pilot responded by appearing out of nowhere - with silence. No conspiracy here, likely just a pilot in training or something playing with our heads. But it was f**king cool. Anyway. Just wanted to make my first post on ATS with an intriguing story, after monitoring it for a while now. There is a lot of disinfo on here, possibly the work of government agents. Be weary. Take in all facts and all sides of every story and don't jump to crazy conclusions - but always remember: the owners of the world and its governments and corporations are not to be trusted!

Anyone else been down the Broad Rivers or witnessed military aircraft watching them while kayaking or other outdoor adventuring?
-Nick



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by Advancedboy
I do know that cloud seeding is different from chemtrailing. I showed it to merely portray an execution potential of similar programs, in case people doubt the feasibility of scale.


Then why did you post this:

Here are the cloud seeding ( chemtrailing) programmes

Cloud seeding bears no resemblance to "chemtrails". Cloud seeding is not "chemtrailing".

The video you posted shows contrails. Not "chemtrails". Not cloud seeding.

edit on 7/20/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 20 2012 @ 03:18 PM
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Why not list crop spraying operations as well? It's perhaps more relevant.

We know cloud seeding takes place. It's as secret as the location of the nearest McDonalds.

Although whether cloud seeding works or McDonalds burgers taste better than wet cardboard is a matter of opinion



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