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Originally posted by chadderson
Then it is settled. Jet trails can cause clouds, and jet trails can also dessipate entirely. I guess i began spouting on for no real reason as you never indicated any disagreement.
Originally posted by SpittinTruth
Yeah...well....today, the planes were out, in force...1 after another. I saw 6 planes within 1/2 hour. Even recorded it on my digital camera. You know the strange part? They haven't been out in 2 months. Even stranger??? They were spraying non-stop on Christmas...and just about every day since....til about 2 months ago...when they stopped. And now, they're back. This, i would looooooove to hear an 'excuse' for.
Yet this conversations keeps getting thrashed by stupid arguments like do Contrails persist or not, when there are videos of unmarked planes, suddenly having a contrail, then not, and then again, at the same altitude.
Originally posted by Uncinus
Originally posted by chadderson
Then it is settled. Jet trails can cause clouds, and jet trails can also dessipate entirely. I guess i began spouting on for no real reason as you never indicated any disagreement.
Yes. The dissipation (or not) depends on the weather. That's why it only does it on some days of the year. That's also why it only does it at certain altitudes, and even just certain regions of the sky, as humidity varies.
But the important point here is that the chemtrail promoters are ignoring this, and essentially lying about it.
Originally posted by chadderson
I would agree that there are chemicals being sprayed that dessipate the clouds. I can upload pictures soon that show these trails cutting through clouds like a knife, and separating them the same way that oil separates itself from water. It is fine to say that the trails can make clouds and they are completely natural, i get it. But do not refute the fact that there is visible evidence, paired with sound understandings of physics, that prove some trails can outright stop clouds from forming.edit on 18-7-2012 by chadderson because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by SpittinTruth
Now, i'm gonna ask....how come people stopped talking about this; for the past 2 months?
Originally posted by SpittinTruth
Originally posted by Uncinus
Originally posted by chadderson
Then it is settled. Jet trails can cause clouds, and jet trails can also dessipate entirely. I guess i began spouting on for no real reason as you never indicated any disagreement.
Yes. The dissipation (or not) depends on the weather. That's why it only does it on some days of the year. That's also why it only does it at certain altitudes, and even just certain regions of the sky, as humidity varies.
But the important point here is that the chemtrail promoters are ignoring this, and essentially lying about it.
I'm just gonna My eyes don't lie. But, your books are FULL OF THEM!
Originally posted by WiseThinker
I still fear this topic has been deliberately diluted and twisted to what it is today.
Think about it this way, if there was a few planes, flying around spraying chemicals, how better to hide it, than start spreading ridiculousness rumors and control the direction of the "truth" movement before its created.
Multiple military openly state that they use Chemtrails on military craft to hide them from radar.
The British experimented with cloud seeding as early as 1920
If they are indeed using HAARP technology on the public, than it would only be natural to seed the sky, to make it more responsive to the frequencies (remember IF they are )
Sorry for rant, but this thread is really making me angry, we are supposed to deny ignorance and search for truth, but all i see is one faction bashing a less knowing faction of the same movement, for gods sake, teach them, enlighten them, don't look down on them or think you are better because you know.
This, i would looooooove to hear an 'excuse' for.
I saw 6 planes within 1/2 hour.
They haven't been out in 2 months. Even stranger??? They were spraying non-stop on Christmas...and just about every day since....til about 2 months ago...when they stopped. And now, they're back.
You know what else is strange? All of a sudden...there have been 2 posts TODAY...regarding chemtrails/geo-engineering. What's up with that??? Why....today? Why the planes....why the discussion regarding these mysterious streaks you call: "lingering con-trails". All just a coincidence, right?
Originally posted by Uncinus
Originally posted by WiseThinker
I still fear this topic has been deliberately diluted and twisted to what it is today.
Think about it this way, if there was a few planes, flying around spraying chemicals, how better to hide it, than start spreading ridiculousness rumors and control the direction of the "truth" movement before its created.
I'm not spreading rumors. It's the chemtrail promoters that are spreading falsehoods. Why exactly is it wrong to point this out? People like Michael J. Murphy have thousands of followers. Don't they deserve to know that contrails do actually persist and spread? Don't they deserve to know they have been misled?
Look at this page:
www.facebook.com...
Post after post of photos of contrails. Isn't this the ignorance we should be denying?
It's hotter today, than it was about a week ago. Matter of fact...it seems like my thermometer is stuck on 65 degrees.
Also, tell me this....where have these planes been, over the past 2 months?
Originally posted by SpittinTruth
It's hotter today, than it was about a week ago. Matter of fact...it seems like my thermometer is stuck on 65 degrees. Also, tell me this....where have these planes been, over the past 2 months? NOT A SINGLE plane; nor a single trail....in 2 months??? Come on now. Let's me REALISTIC, at least.
Originally posted by WiseThinker
I agree that their unwilingless to learn is nearly unbearable, but the op directly challanged the Chemtrail movement to reply, what was he expecting? this was going to be a bashing thread from the start.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by WiseThinker
Multiple military openly state that they use Chemtrails on military craft to hide them from radar.
The British experimented with cloud seeding as early as 1920
The use of chaff has nothing to do with what are current described as "chemtrails". It does not hide aircraft from radar, it distracts radar guided missiles so they chase the chaff rather than the aircraft.
Cloud seeding has nothing to do with what are currently described as "chemtrails". It does not create clouds.
If they are indeed using HAARP technology on the public, than it would only be natural to seed the sky, to make it more responsive to the frequencies (remember IF they are )
HAARP affects a small region of the ionosphere above Gakona, Alaska. A region of the ionosphere which is tens of miles higher than any jet aircraft can fly.
edit on 7/18/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)