Originally posted by CalibratedZeus
Not to offend you, but not even going to bother reading it.

My recently passed 93 year old grandmother surived through it, along with her parents and brothers. Their stories were not just some made up nightmares. You cant deny the accounts of the many survivors just on the words of a few nuts who dont agree with the formation of Israel after the war.

edit on 18-7-2012 by CalibratedZeus because: perhaps a different title for people to actually read it?

Yea if you actually read it ....he's not saying it didn't happen. The title is the way it is. And if you were intelligent you would know what he was talking about.

He actually is saying it happen and that it was bad........please read.....not reading makes you look like a fool.

One day two Jehovah’s Witnesses came to my house and insisted humans do not have souls and to believe so is essentially evil. Also they claimed to have no knowledge of Lucifer, which I thought was odd – so I did some research after I removed them from my front porch:

Charles T. Russell was a Rothschild agent and Zionist.

The Watchtower Society is a Masonic order.

Jehovah’s Witnesses teach only they alone will be saved.

Russell was ritually sacrificed on Halloween, 1917.

Jehovah = Lord, which is a Greek root from the mysteries also meaning Jupiter or Zeus.

The Watchtowerand Awake! Magazines are littered with occult symbols. See Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Hour of Darkness: Occult Subversion and Blind Faith in the Watch Tower Society. (1992) Barefoot, Derek.. Grand Valley Press.

WT Year Book (1928): “The stellar group, known as the constellation of Pleiades, situated in the north, seems to be marked by the Bible as the center of the celestial universe, the place of the throne of Jehovah, from which supreme authority is exercised.”

Before this in 1921, the WT told readers “it took ten days for messages to travel from God, who was in the Pleiades.”

Jehovah’s Witnesses are not Christian, look up testimonials of family members who do not share the belief systems or ostracized members. The fundamentals of Jesus/Yeshua/Immanuel are acceptance and forgiveness.

After hearing this and hopefully doing your own research, decide if this is a New Age deception with zero credibility…

As for the OP: some people on this forum actually read books and do research what they hear and see, every story has two sides – yours is no different. I will pray for you.

Originally posted by ConspiracyBuff
As for the OP: some people on this forum actually read books and do research what they hear and see, every story has two sides – yours is no different. I will pray for you.

so, you're saying then, that the holocaust didn't happen and those things the JW documented are all made up?

Stupid, stupid thread.

Yeah it occured. 6 of my family had their teeth pulled out and were gassed to death alive.

They were buried with a thousand or so others in one of a few hundred mass graves. A few were burned to death.

Hows that for proof?

Lets savagely murder 1/ 2 of your family and we'll come back later and ask you.."Hey! Do you think it really happened?

Stupid....and I wont even address the idiocy of the JW.

Originally posted by Crakeur

Originally posted by ConspiracyBuff
As for the OP: some people on this forum actually read books and do research what they hear and see, every story has two sides – yours is no different. I will pray for you.

so, you're saying then, that the holocaust didn't happen and those things the JW documented are all made up?

The Holocaust or "Burnt Offering" encompassed positive bloods types to make way for the next root race. JW’s were targeted because Hitler knew they were a Masonic order and that was an early paltform of his, just Like Mr. John Q. Adams.

Originally posted by JakiusFogg
Someone gonna get slapped sideways by Springer!!

he's not a happy man on this subject.

Who cares?.

Originally posted by CalibratedZeus
Not to offend you, but not even going to bother reading it.

My recently passed 93 year old grandmother surived through it, along with her parents and brothers. Their stories were not just some made up nightmares. You cant deny the accounts of the many survivors just on the words of a few nuts who dont agree with the formation of Israel after the war.

edit on 18-7-2012 by CalibratedZeus because: perhaps a different title for people to actually read it?

ATS, this is what is wrong with you. This type of response. "Im not going to read your OP, and will lash out at you based on your title".

And so often, like the above poster, you are wrong.

Yes, there is no doubt a holocaust took place, but, just because the jews have a word which has implications of "sacrifice" and they apply it to what happened in germany, it fails to fairly apportion suffering of many many people who lived in the same camps, and were treated the same way, and i wish they didn't use the media time and time again, to assuage us that their suffering was the greatest, it wasn't.
And why do the jews regard this as a "Burnt offering", burnt offering to what or whom?, why not use the term, genocide, as this seems to be more appropriate as it would correctly define the suffering of the entire race in this time, and not just those that went into the camps.
A lot of those people do look like typhoid victims, the conditions must have been known to the allies, i have sooo many questions about this period of time, and the whole, "You can't go there" attitude only makes me want to look very hard at the whole thing, even more.