Did the Holocaust Really Happen?

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posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 03:57 AM
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reply to post by OrphenFire
 


When I look at the first video without clicking on to it I can tell you how many Jews are among that caption and most of those people appear a mix of both Russian non-Jewish prisoners and Jewish prisoners.

There is a problem among many photographs of people we see in Nazi death camp photos especially those in striped PJs, they are NOT all Jewish as we are lead to believe!
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posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 04:00 AM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by OrphenFire
 


When I look at the first video without clicking on to it I can tell you how many Jews are among that caption and most of those people appear a mix of both Russian non-Jewish prisoners and Jewish prisoners.

There is a problem among many photographs of people we see in Nazi death camp photos especially those in striped PJs, they are NOT all Jewish as we are lead to believe!
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Cool. I never said anything about Jews or non-Jews. I'm just showing the video evidence the guy asked for. He had never seen a video of the holocaust before.



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 04:03 AM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5


There is a problem among many photographs of people we see in Nazi death camp photos especially those in striped PJs, they are NOT all Jewish as we are lead to believe!
edit on 19-7-2012 by bluemirage5 because: (no reason given)


If anyone leads you to believe that ALL VICTIMS OF NAZISM WERE JEWS, then you have been fooled.

In fact, I'm not aware of anyone in the whole wide world who has ever claimed that all victims of Nazism were Jews. Maybe this is more ignorance of the official story by revisionists (a view that this thread definitely confirms) than a case of active disinformation.



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 04:10 AM
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I'm well aware of the approx number of racial denominations murdered in the Nazi concentration camps. We all know it was'nt just the Jews.

What's done is done and we can't change what has already happened and we certainly can't bring back the dead.

Now what the Vatican did to thousands of little Jewish children.........? Where are they and what happened to them? Thats what I want to know.



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 04:12 AM
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i really think we ought to take democratic vote to decide if hitler killed 6 milion people for being or the nazis thinking they are jewish.WTF??



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 04:19 AM
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Originally posted by night1
i really think we ought to take democratic vote to decide if hitler killed 6 milion people for being or the nazis thinking they are jewish.WTF??


Fortunately, truth is not measured in mass appaeal.

Let's leave the consensus about what happened on a scientific, and not democratic principles.

I'd fear the results of leaving the question of what happened in the past up to the simple whims of people at the ballot box.

I think you probably were sarcastic, so this is not really directed at you. Just commenting on the concept of history being determined by mass appaeal.
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posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 04:23 AM
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Did 9/11 happen? After all, all we have are the bought and paid for media propaganda.. A few videos and pics that could easily be faked etc..

You get the point?



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 04:31 AM
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Originally posted by EvanB
Did 9/11 happen? After all, all we have are the bought and paid for media propaganda.. A few videos and pics that could easily be faked etc..

You get the point?


Luckily, there's more than just "a few videos" in this case.

You get the point?

(BTW, better to read the opening post beofre posting)



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 04:49 AM
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Jehovah's Witnesses were seen as a subversive Cult, however they were not rounded up en masse, but were individuals tried and convicted of crimes, generally refusal to join the Military, and were sent to the Political Correction Camps within Germany, such as Dachau...in itself that is no differnant than occured in the Western Democracies were those deemed subversives, enemy nationals, political objectors were also incarcarated.

Throughout the relevant period 1,400 are considered to have died within the Camp System, the majority undoubtably toward the end of the war when the Camps fell into terrible condition and malnutrition/disease were rampant.




When Germany reintroduced universal military service in 1935, Jehovah's Witnesses generally refused to enroll. Although they were not pacifists, they refused to bear arms for any political power. The Nazis prosecuted Jehovah's Witnesses for failing to report for conscription and arrested those who did missionary work for undermining the morale of the nation. John Conway, a British historian, stated that they were “against any form of collaboration with the Nazis and against service in the army





Of the 25,000 to 30,000 Germans who in 1933 were Jehovah's Witnesses, an estimated 20,000 remained active through the Nazi period. The remainder fled Germany, renounced their faith, or confined their worship to the family. Of those remaining active, about half were convicted and sentenced at one time or another during the Nazi era for anywhere from one month to four years, with the average being about 18 months. Of those convicted or sentenced, between 2,000 to 2,500 were sent to concentration camps, as were a total of about 700 to 800 non-German Witnesses (this figure includes about 200-250 Dutch, 200 Austrians, 100 Poles, and between 10 and 50 Belgians, French, Czechs, and Hungarians).

The number of Jehovah's Witnesses who died in concentration camps and prisons during the Nazi era is estimated at 1,000 Germans and 400 from other countries, including about 90 Austrians and 120 Dutch. (The non-German Jehovah's Witnesses suffered a considerably higher percentage of deaths than their German co-religionists.) In addition, about 250 German Jehovah's Witnesses were executed -- mostly after being tried and convicted by military tribunals -- for refusing to serve in the German military.



www.ushmm.org...

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posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 04:59 AM
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Originally posted by BrutalDictator


Stupid, stupid thread.

Yeah it occured. 6 of my family had their teeth pulled out and were gassed to death alive.

They were buried with a thousand or so others in one of a few hundred mass graves. A few were burned to death.

Hows that for proof?

Lets savagely murder 1/ 2 of your family and we'll come back later and ask you.."Hey! Do you think it really happened?

Stupid....and I wont even address the idiocy of the JW.

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You were there???
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not being funny, but how could you possibly know this?



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 06:00 AM
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I'm not saying that there were no political prisoners who were killed in camps ( Just like in any other war too )

But, these pictures show cholera and starvation victims who died in prison camps. I think they are mostly from the red cross and have been abused for propaganda purposes.

Funny how no-one mentions the many millions of Germans who were left to die in on the shores of the Rhine, starved and frozen to death in the allies POW camps. What about them ?
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posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 06:25 AM
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It would be good if we could at least have intelligent discussion on WWII without any of the discussions or analytical looks into WWII werent shot down straight away as anti jewish .

I think it would make sense for us to get the truth about our history so we are not teaching lies and half truths and propaganda to our children !



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 06:50 AM
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I would REALLY DEARLY love to see those of you who FAILED to read the OP's post APOLOGIZE to the OP!


It was a very interesting read, well researched and obvious some time and effort was put in, but all that good work is undone by those who failed to read before jumping to conclusions.

That includes TWO Moderators!!!
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
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YES IT DID

~Tenth


Originally posted by maria_stardust
reply to post by SubAce
 


In answer to your original question:

Yes, it did.


Originally posted by neformore
Yes.

It happened.
*snip

(this is taken from below this post)

It would really give me some hope to see them at least acknowledge they didn't read it, as for the regular members, even a SORRY PM to the OP would be a good start.
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posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 06:52 AM
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Yes it did. It might have not been 100% like in zhe movies but it did happen. There are numerous eye witness accounts and evidence that the camps were created with the intent to kill the workers off through malnutrition and diseases.



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 07:00 AM
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Yes.

It happened.

Although people with certain leanings and sentiments that are distasteful in modern civilised society might want to insinuate otherwise.

Does anything more need to be said?



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 07:01 AM
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A rather sick and, frankly, disgusting way to promote the Jehova Witness sect.

I Did read the whole OP, and it reeked of JW propaganda in nó uncertain way.

'nuff said.
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posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 07:04 AM
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The real question is..... was Hitler even a real person. My guess is he wasn't even real. It was just a paid actor posing as hitler. Because then of course when the roll was done they claim they burned the body. Hitler wasn't even a real man to begin with.



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 07:04 AM
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Let's not forget the Russian loss of life in WW2, over 14 million civilians and 8 million armed forces.

RIP.

QV.



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 07:05 AM
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Originally posted by dutchmilpo
A rather sick and, frankly, disgusting way to promote the Jehova Witness sect.

I Did read the whole OP, and it reeked of JW propaganda in nó uncertain way.

'nuff said.
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what a disgusting interpretation



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 07:33 AM
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I'm with those posters on the thread who are infuriated by the ATS-members - and moderators no less! - who insist on bashing this thread without reading the OP. You people draw shame over ATS and you shame its motto, "Deny Ignorance". Shame on all of you. If you have even a half-baked sense of belonging on AboveTopSecret you will apologize to the OP for your ignorance.

And to the OP, I will only say that it was indeed an interesting read, and I starred and flagged it.





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