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Originally posted by Deetermined
Originally posted by longlostbrother
reply to post by Deetermined
I don't suppose you managed to figure out that that has only been a law since 1982?
C'mon birthers, stop your lying and bs...
Are you freaking serious?
What makes you think the laws were more stringent in 1961?
In fact, registering a bunch of Japanese foreigners living in the Pacific Islands was probably much easier back then along with anyone else entering into Hawaii. They didn't even have to be U.S. citizens to register their child.
The only thing this law probably did was set a guideline for how long someone had to live within the U.S. before they could register their child as a U.S. citizen. They probably didn't even have a living requirement before.
Come on, OutKast, give us some worthy of reading. Give us your explanation to the penciled in numbers on the birth certificate and what they really mean.
Prove to us all of the fields on the birth certificate were filled out from the very beginning.
Immigration Marriage Fraud and VAWA Fraud 101
by John Sampson
CSI Investigations
It is estimated that of the 300,000+ immigrant visas issued on the basis of a marriage to a US citizen each year, nearly 30% of them are fraudulent.
As a result, there are thousands of American citizens who are viciously victimized by foreign nationals who will stop at nothing to gain entry into this country. The sad part is that the United States government oftentimes is not willing to assist a victimized citizen in obtaining some semblance of justice, nor are they prepared to protect its citizens from the abuses heaped upon them by foreign nationals who abuse American citizens and the American immigration "system" to get what they want and what they believe they are entitled to as a matter of "right".
And thousands of American citizens are the victims of sham or fraudulent marriages perpetrated by cold and heartless foreign nationals seeking the American Dream which creates the American Nightmare for the unsuspecting American citizen.
A sham or fraudulent marriage under immigration law is a marriage contracted for the sole purpose of evading the numerical restrictions that otherwise limit immigration into the United States. In Lutwak v. United States the Supreme Court stated that "Congress did not intend to provide aliens with an easy means of circumventing the quota system by fake marriages in which neither of the parties ever intended to enter into the marital relationship..."
Government statistics show that between 1978 and 1984 the number of immigrants acquiring status as spouses of United States citizens increased 43% as compared to a total immigration drop of 9.6%. The Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) estimated that 30% of these spousal relationships were fraudulent.
Furthermore, Congress was made aware of the problem by the Immigration Service's discovery of numerous marriage fraud rings around the country and national media attention.
There are generally two types of sham marriages. One is the collusive or "contract"' marriage whereby a citizen agrees to marry an alien solely to enable the alien to achieve permanent resident status.
There is usually a fee involved for the citizen and an understanding that the marriage will be dissolved soon after the permanent resident status is obtained by the alien. The more blatant cases of this type of fraud have involved marriage "rings"' whereby citizen "spouses"' are supplied along with bogus documents.
I'm calling BS on you again, OutKast!
WND clearly stated that investigators had a written manual with the rules and guidelines on the coding as well as U.K. Lee's statement..
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by Deetermined
I'm calling BS on you again, OutKast!
WND clearly stated that investigators had a written manual with the rules and guidelines on the coding as well as U.K. Lee's statement..
Prove it.
If they clearly have all this evidence...why aren't they taking it to court???
Why will the turn it into a book like they did the last time which will invalidate any findings they had to be used in a court of law???
You are being played...and you don't even realize it...it's actually very sad to watch.
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
Evidence has been presented.
Either give us some intelligent feedback other than "prove it" or "you're a liar" or everyone on here will know you only as the troll that likes to take up space spouting useless nonsense.
Originally posted by longlostbrother
reply to post by Milkflavour
I'm not sure I follow your logic
I don't know if you know this, but Congress is a court. This is why they have hearing all the time and gather testimonies from people. They will simply use a few months to wear all this out so that people may judge and decide in their heart if Obahmer is a fake and a fraud.
Originally posted by Turkenstein
After all that, how do you know they didn't check Bush's?
If they clearly have all this evidence...why aren't they taking it to court???
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
The only people being played are the ones who don't want to do their research and listen to your garbage all day long instead!
i don't think it is because i don't understand why he would put his already fading reputation on the line like this. but seriously who knows? we get lied to a LOT.
Originally posted by caladonea
For me there is not enough proof to prove that President Obama was not born in the United States.
I am saying too...this birther movement is all propaganda.