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Originally posted by Jaellma
Obama is their son so there is nothing you folks can do about it.
Originally posted by spinalremain
I believe you're partly correct in your view that birthers don't understand they're not looking at the BC to begin with. This is in fact true and easily seen in any birther thread.
Originally posted by ipsedixit
In fact, why doesn't the President order, as a matter of national security, the release of the ink on paper original document.
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Investigators for an Arizona sheriff's volunteer posse have declared that President Barack Obama's birth certificate is definitely fraudulent.
Members of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio's posse said in March that there was probable cause that Obama's long-form birth certificate released by the White House in April 2011 was a computer-generated forgery.
Now, Arpaio says investigators are positive it's fraudulent.
Mike Zullo, the posse's chief investigator, said numeric codes on certain parts of the birth certificate indicate that those parts weren't filled out, yet those sections asking for the race of Obama's father and his field of work or study were completed.
Zullo said investigators previously didn't know the meaning of codes but that the codes were explained by a 95-year-old former state worker who signed the president's birth certificate. Zullo said a news reporter who has helped out in the probe let investigators listen in on an interview he concluded of the former state worker.
Interesting that's on Yahoo news, and top story on Drudge!
Ouch, right down the mainstream, just where Obama didn't want that to go, and any other number of "Guardians".
He's also moving and referring the investigation to the Congress. Like THAT's going to go anywhere? But hey, Arpaio and crew did their job. They determined the White House release is a fraud, no doubt.
Previously, the Sheriff was not completely convinced, but after this latest investigative phase, is stating this now as "they are sure the BC is fraudulent." That's tough news to swallow for the Obama hopefuls, and will be rejected outright by the Obama Guardians. So? Did YOU do an investigation of the depth and scope that the cold case posse did? No? Then why should I believe you over Arpaio?
Too bad, cause I am not. I believe what Arpaio and crew have determined has way more integrity than any bozo yapping on a conspiracy forum. They've done the research, and reached the fire through the smoke. But looks like that blaze is going to be too much to handle for the local fire dept.edit on Tue Jul 17th 2012 by TrueAmerican because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by spoor
Originally posted by Deetermined
Maybe you missed the part in the investigation where it shows that Hawaii still allows those who are foreign born to get a valid Hawaii birth certificate as long as someone can provide proof that one of the parents was a citizen and resided in Hawaii for at least a year prior to registering their child.
And you ignore the fact that such a birth certificate would NOT state Hawaii as the place of birth....
Originally posted by XeroOne
Funny, I don't remember anyone checking George Bush's birth certificate.
Originally posted by trysts
...... but all those people who did care were soooo constantly called names by so many on the Internet and television, that they deserve a huge apology.
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Or comments that show a particular agenda to make Joe's investigation seem like it's worthless. ]