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I have not spouted anything. I have stated that he has not proven that he is a natural born citizen. And the courts have acknowledged that his evidence is not valid in a court of law.
Originally posted by kyviecaldges
Originally posted by MrXYZ
This whole birther crap is nothing but a bunch of racists grasping at straws
They're clowns of the nation and should be treated as such. Sooooooo many issues today, the economy, jobs, the environment, wars...yet they focus on stuff that's complete and utter nonsense.
Clowns!! ALL OF THEM!
This is horribly weak.
You are playing a race card because you back an argument that completely lacks substance.
Your appeal to emotion is completely irrational and a logical fallacy.
Originally posted by flyswatter
Let me say this yet again ...
He ... did ... not ... use ... an ... executive ... order ... to ... seal ... his ... records.
How many times does this have to be explained before thick-skulled people will understand that it simply isnt true?
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by Xcalibur254
Birthers don't want to hear the facts.
The talking point is that Obama signed an Executive Order to seal his birth records and his college transcripts! You and I can read that executive order and see that several presidents before him also contributed to the presidential records EOs, AND that it's about records generated WHILE he is president. We can also see that Obama actually opened up access to more records with that EO, but that doesn't matter. Facts have no place in the birther mindset.
Please don't stray from the talking points! It's just confusing and frustrating. /sarcasm
Originally posted by kyviecaldges
reply to post by flyswatter
People who question the anomalies dont seem to have a full understanding of just how much that can affect it.
And yet this whole argument could be settled by letting experts examine the original, but yet he refuses.
THIS IS ALL DIVIDE AND CONQUER.
And regardless, he is under *ZERO* obligation to even let people look at a certified copy. Even Congress has deemed this a non-issue.
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by flyswatter
And regardless, he is under *ZERO* obligation to even let people look at a certified copy. Even Congress has deemed this a non-issue.
We'll see what happens to Congress if Obama is allowed another term!
I see a repeat of November 2010 coming to wipe them clean.
Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
reply to post by Xcalibur254
It's all about getting Obama and all those brown people. Nothing else matters,
Which courts by which people?
List them.
Originally posted by bernierhome
reply to post by XeroOne
Why would they???? The Bush family has a long American heritage bloodline. That was a real stupid comment you made
No one knew Obama, he just popped out of no where. Got the picture????
Originally posted by Stiglitz
reply to post by trysts
Obama never was entitled to the US presidency. He is also not entitled to a birth certificate, but a CRBA.
The Foreign Affairs Manual clearly states:
7 FAM 1440
CONSULAR REPORT OF BIRTH OF A CITIZEN/NON-CITIZEN NATIONAL OF THE UNITED STATES
The Form FS-240 is not a birth certificate, such as is issued by a
government-authorized bureau or office of vital statistics, because
consular officers are not authorized to assume a foreign local or state
vital statistics function. The Form FS-240 is a consular declaration of the fact of acquisition of U.S. citizenship at birth based upon:
(1) The certification of, or attestation to, the facts of birth by a legally
authorized local official in the place where the birth occurred;
(2) The affidavit executed by the parent(s) or legal guardian(s) or other
evidence regarding the physical presence of the U.S. citizen/national parent(s), or in the case of two citizen parents, residence, necessary to transmit U.S. citizenship/noncitizen nationality to the child;
(3) Evidence of the physical relationship between the U.S. citizen and
the child;
(4) Evidence of the legal relationship between the U.S. citizen and the
child, such as proof of the U.S. citizen/national parent(s)’s
citizenship and marriage or for births out of wedlock, legitimation in
accordance with Section 309 INA (8 U.S.C. 1409) or predecessor
statute, and an affidavit of parentage and financial support if the
child is born out of wedlock to a U.S. citizen father;
(5) Evidence of citizenship/nationality of the U.S. citizen/national
parent(s); and
(6) Consular adjudication of the child’s claim to U.S. citizenship. (See 7
FAM 1100).
d. The purpose of issuing a Form FS-240 is to provide a record of the acquisition of U.S. citizenship at birth by a child born in a foreign state that can be used by that citizen throughout life.