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BIG NEWS- Arpaio: Obama birth record 'definitely fraudulent'

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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:49 AM
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I find it amazing how so many people on here can blindly support Arpaio when he pretty much encapsulates all the behaviors people on here hate about corrupt politicians. He's ineffective. He places his own agenda ahead of the needs of his constituents. He loses taxpayer money. He pretty much steals taxpayer money. He abuses his power. He uses his position to intimidate his opponents. He uses his position to help his friends and those that can help him. He's even violated the Constitution. He's pretty much a walking antithesis to ATS and yet he's heralded as a hero. It just boggles the mind.




posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:54 AM
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Very good summation, can't argue with that!



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:55 AM
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What I find so confusing about this whole thing, is that conservatives have always had the stance of "dont go there, otherwise you'll be labeled a conspiracy nut"

When you have Billionaires like Donald J Trump saying over and over again that he doesn't believe Obama, and then you have Billionaires like George Soros funding Obama.....Guess it goes to show that you cant buy happiness, but you surely can buy a presidency, and of course thats an investment that absolutely must have a biased agenda.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:55 AM
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It's all about getting Obama and all those brown people. Nothing else matters,



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by antonia
Oh who gives a damn. You people will scream about it till you are blue in the freaking face and guess what it avails you? Nothing. It doesn't matter, Obama is in office and the GOP isn't going to impeach him over this. If all the evidence is there it would have been done already. It's not going to happen, All your wet dreams about usurping the marxist kenyian socialist overlord with Arpaio are just that-Dreams.

If you really want Obama gone you would be better served getting off ATS and stumping for Romney. Good luck selling that bill of goods though.


Maybe they could plant a wire on an intern and have her seduce him into having an affair and impeach him over that?



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 12:03 PM
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OMG This just in!!!!

Martian posse busted for releasing false information regarding Obama Birth Certificate to distract the public from their invasion!!!



Well, I guess we have the answer now!! It was all a ploy!!! Set up to keep us from seeing the alien invasion from MARS!!!

RUN, RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!!



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 12:03 PM
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Like it has probably been stated before in this thread, it doesn't matter where Obama was born.

His mother was an American so Obama was automatically a natural born citizen on his birth through jus sanguinis (the right of blood) regardless of where he was born. Now some of you may say that because his father wasn't American it doesn't count. Wrong, Obama's mother was working for the American government at the time so she was inferred all of the privilege that a diplomat would get, including herself being considered American territory (the same way that American ships and consulates are considered American territory).



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 12:07 PM
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They really need to set up a reality show for the elections this fall in the Bible Belt.

Seriously, it could bring in MEGA ratings!

The choices
1. A Mormon who is more liberal than conservative on the GOP ballot vs
2. A black guy

Should be better than any reality show on tv at the moment!!

I'm going to enjoy watching it unfold around me because there's some CRAZY people down here!!!



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by PurpleChiten

Originally posted by Jaellma
It doesn't matter if Obama was born on a shooting star or in the middle of the Suez Canal, all that matters is this...

"President Obama was born in Honolulu and his birth certificate is valid," Joshua A. Wisch, a special assistant to Hawaii's attorney general, said in a statement. "Regarding the latest allegations from a sheriff in Arizona, they are untrue, misinformed, and misconstrue Hawaii law."

As far as the Hawaii folks are concerned, Obama is their son so there is nothing you folks can do about it.




That pretty much sums it up.

Besides, if they didn't impeach dubya, they're not going to impeach anybody.... unless they have sex in the oval office, then they'll try to hang them


"...if they didn't impeach dubya..." For what? He came in under order of the Supreme Court and Gore conceded. He had one of the highest levels of public support of any POTUS after 9/11 (Please don't tell me you are a truther). Then he caught flack for Katrina and basically spent money like it was candy, and in the last 6-9 months you never even saw the guy. I don't see an impeachable offense, never read that he did anything illegal (all POTUS start wars illegally so that is no excuse).

I'm not a fan of Barry's either but prior to this I would see "Impeach" Obama bumper stickers. People do realize that there has to be evidence of an impeachable offense, right? If it were based on popularity we'd be impeaching presidents every 3 weeks because all politicians are built of the same mold. Money, power, S E X, and more money and power.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 12:09 PM
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Here's another interesting question I have.

Previously, I showed the Hawaii law that allows children born out of state and in other territories to receive Hawaii birth certificates and still show them as being born in Hawaii as long as the parent had lived in Hawaii for at least a year. I'll post it again...

HRS 338-17.8


[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State.

(a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.

(c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]


Now, you may say that the law wasn't created until 1982, but here's the part I don't understand concerning the number of the law.

Why is it in Section 338-17 in the first place?

Let's take a look at the Section header of HRS 338-17:


§338-17 Late or altered certificate as evidence. The probative value of a "late" or "altered" certificate shall be determined by the judicial or administrative body or official before whom the certificate is offered as evidence. [L 1949, c 327, §21; RL 1955, §57-20; HRS §338-17; am L 1997, c 305, §4]



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 12:10 PM
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The main reason would have been declaring war on a sovereign nation with falsified evidence, but there are a MILLION other reasons....
And the LOWEST approval rating in HISTORY yet they didn't impeach him even though practically everyone in the country with a brain and an IQ above 70 KNEW how crooked he was and the lies he told. ....


I think the majority of the tiny little 22 percent that supported him happen to be members here....
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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 12:10 PM
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A good topic for a different thread methinks.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by PurpleChiten
Bear with me for a moment, but....

What if... just what if... The Obama camp are the very people that keep putting this out and creating such havoc?

What if it's their attempt to draw attention away from other things that are much more important?

Like I said, I'm not big on Obama either for or against, so I'm looking at it with a little less bias...

The country is going to hell in a handbag so all the attention of the biggest opponents is focused on something like the legitimacy of a birth certificate (that they probably have a copy of somewhere to pull out at the last minute).

If you want to keep your "enemy busy", give them something to focus on that they can't resist and you can do whatever you want.

Just sayin...


That's a great point but I'm not sure any administration where Joe Biden is #2 is smart enough to do something like that. I do see however that Barry isn't interested on running on his record, not does he tell us what a 2nd term is going to bring. It's all about attacking his opponent. I guess if you are vicious enough this works, but I'm seeing more and more supporters are asking the tough questions. Even Chris "up the leg" Matthews is getting fed up. The once-darling of the MSM is losing his free advertising.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 12:14 PM
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No, there doesn't need to be any evidence of an impeachment. After all, there's no evidence to prove Obama's a Kenyan, so there doesn't need to be evidence for an impeachment.

Nobody cares about honor, dignity, honesty and law. it's all about getting Obama and all those brown people any dirty way they can.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by flashtrum


That's a great point but I'm not sure any administration where Joe Biden is #2 is smart enough to do something like that. I do see however that Barry isn't interested on running on his record, not does he tell us what a 2nd term is going to bring. It's all about attacking his opponent. I guess if you are vicious enough this works, but I'm seeing more and more supporters are asking the tough questions. Even Chris "up the leg" Matthews is getting fed up. The once-darling of the MSM is losing his free advertising.


Meh.... look at all the crap the administration with Mr. Potatoe Head Quayle did... Biden is still a step above that guy even though he is a total moron...



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 12:18 PM
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Go ahead, elect Romney... I DARE ya!!!


ETA: I DOUBLE DOG DARE YA!!!

... just don't shoot your eye out

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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
Just a word of advice, if you read through the whole thread you'll understand how Obama received a birth certificate from Hawaii without having to have been born in Hawaii to get it.


No. You'll understand what the birther conspiracy theory is claiming. Obama could have received his birth certificate from visiting aliens, too, but there's no more evidence of that than there is of him receiving one according to your theory...

It's amazing how you guys state your wild theories as fact. :shk:

reply to post by AfterInfinity
 


Both of these imaginative stories have been thoroughly debunked on ATS.

reply to post by Deetermined
 


The research has been done. There's a thread about this on ATS, too. Debunked.


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The PDF CANNOT be validated as true OR false! It's NOT a birth certificate. It's an electronic representation of a PICTURE using ones and zeroes, translated into graphics! This is the VERY reason Arpaio and his merry men cannot POSSIBLY have determined it to be fraudulent.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by XeroOne
Funny, I don't remember anyone checking George Bush's birth certificate.


When was the last time you read a book/article about him saying he was from another country. This has happened time and time again to Barack. All the college things that were written saying he was in fact from Kenya. When this issue was first brought up to me I called total BS on it. Then the Obama administration released a shabby photo shopped birth certificate. I could have made a better copy of it in my sleep. I can just picture him and his administration standing around the computer drunker than a skunk as some guy is making the photo shopped certificate.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 12:19 PM
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EXACTLY!!! It's the Martians!!! They're distracting us so they can ATTACK!!!!



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 12:21 PM
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This is true Alex Jones broke this 5 months ago.



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