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BIG NEWS- Arpaio: Obama birth record 'definitely fraudulent'

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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:25 AM
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so a ... posse... is saying a certified document that has been approved by professionals in the field is fraudulent... a posse, a group of people, aka "mob" going on the mentality of guilty regardless of facts....

yeah, that definitely proves something


I couldn't care less about Obama either way, but can smell manure very well



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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:30 AM
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Yeah, but if you go check that guys website he is a hardcore anti-Obama delusional, that uses phrases like, "Obammunism".

If he is the original source for those documents, I'd be very sceptical.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:30 AM
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Please feel free to provide a list of those professionals who approved the .pdf as being legitimate.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:33 AM
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No need.... the one that submitted it is sufficient and certified and that's all that was required



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:34 AM
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So, have they released the real evidence that proves it's a fake yet? So, far I have only seen mention of a statute and how they mislead a 95 year old woman to get her to explain how social security numbers normally work. No smoking gun as far as I can see.
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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:35 AM
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Huh... They'll just let the thing going on for a few more months until Romney gets elected and the whole Obama fraud will be forgotten. Just like the Democrats never went after Bush for his record of criminal lies. Turns out they're all pawns in the same game... even if one falls, they'll replace him with a better one that'll last for a while.

Then in 3 years Obama in his memoirs will admit it was all a fraud, but just like with Bush, nothing's gonna happen.

Face it, folks: your USA is game over.. The last legitimate US administration was Clinton's, no matter its problems. Bush-Cheney in 2000 was a total coup, through election fraud, that's got confirmed by the 9/11 attacks that enable the dictatorship to take place.

Since there was never any impeachment of Bush and the vast majority of the Congressmen and Senators of the two parties fell into line with the whole plot, EVERYTHING that followed goes in line with this. The US government (that includes the mainstream media and the "corporate governance") is inherently HOSTILE, and anything you can do for a change will be either without or up against it. Political reform no longer applies.
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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by Jaellma
It doesn't matter if Obama was born on a shooting star or in the middle of the Suez Canal, all that matters is this...

"President Obama was born in Honolulu and his birth certificate is valid," Joshua A. Wisch, a special assistant to Hawaii's attorney general, said in a statement. "Regarding the latest allegations from a sheriff in Arizona, they are untrue, misinformed, and misconstrue Hawaii law."

As far as the Hawaii folks are concerned, Obama is their son so there is nothing you folks can do about it.




That pretty much sums it up.

Besides, if they didn't impeach dubya, they're not going to impeach anybody.... unless they have sex in the oval office, then they'll try to hang them



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:37 AM
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Please feel free to provide a list of those professionals who approved the .pdf as being legitimate.


Please provide a list of the posse that investigated this issue.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Again I just want to point out the very important distinction: previously, they were not sure, but now, they ARE SURE that Obama's BC, as released by the WH, is fraudulent. That's a career law enforcement officer stating this, after extended and meticulous investigations that have gone on for a very long time.


I mean really, I kept expecting "Oops, we made a mistake"...or "Due to insufficient evidence, we are shutting down the case"...

But let this sink in a minute people. This is major confirmation of what so many have suspected all along. But is it actionable, and will the Congress act on this. If they don't, they should all be fired. For having no balls. Zero, nada, zilcho.


So you're saying that career law enforcement officials are experts in digital imaging and photoshop? I didn't know that was one of the job descriptions or requirements....



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:37 AM
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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:37 AM
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They don't have any real evidence. They're just beating a dead horse again. He's doing this because the feds are investigating him.

I think I'm the only one in the entire world who sees this.

He's no hero of the people. He thinks he's above the law and can do anything he wants to and is nothing more than another type of criminal who just abuses the law to suit his own ends.

I really hope he gets into a lot of hot water. It really frustrates me that Obama's not putting the smackdown on this guy. He's committed libel.

The sad part is the Arpaio cult of followers who blindly follow him no matter what crimes he breaks.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:37 AM
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Oh who gives a damn. You people will scream about it till you are blue in the freaking face and guess what it avails you? Nothing. It doesn't matter, Obama is in office and the GOP isn't going to impeach him over this. If all the evidence is there it would have been done already. It's not going to happen, All your wet dreams about usurping the marxist kenyian socialist overlord with Arpaio are just that-Dreams.

If you really want Obama gone you would be better served getting off ATS and stumping for Romney. Good luck selling that bill of goods though.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:38 AM
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If you need a closer look at BOTH "Official Certification of Nomination" documents that were signed by Nancy Pelosi to secure Obama's nomination, feel free to look at them here.


“The DNC drafted, signed and notarized TWO slightly different versions of their Official Certification of Nomination documents, not one,” he wrote. “One of those documents had complete legal language, and one of them was missing the text concerning the constitutional eligibility of Barack Hussein Obama.

“The version which is absent any certification of constitutional standing for the office of president is the version that was filed with every state in the country, and the one used by the DNC to elect Barack Obama president,” he wrote.

WND contacted the Democratic National Committee multiple times over three days to request an explanation of the two images, including whether one might be a forgery.

A spokeswoman in the press office confirmed, “We are aware of it,” but declined to elaborate.


www.wnd.com...

So, someone with the DNC acknowledged that both of these documents were floating around out there.

I don't see a reason to try and claim them as forgeries, do you?

I don't give a damn what you think of the person who asked for these copies.

These are what was in the states' possession.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:41 AM
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OMG! You actually posted something productive! I think I may just have to give you a star!



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:42 AM
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I agree with you, but I'd say that if Obama engages this guy he just gives the guy a platform and the media a story... and Joe is a liar, so he's not gonna go away no matter what Obama or HI or anyone else say...

"Don't give him any publicity" is the best tactic...



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:42 AM
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As an outsider of this matter I'd say it really don't make much difference... He was raised as american, live as american, think as american... he is an american. what a piece of paper says is irrelevant. Just see the cases of "spies" caught that were born in USA, live in USA but thinking as member of other country to who they gave their allegiance...



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:42 AM
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Bear with me for a moment, but....

What if... just what if... The Obama camp are the very people that keep putting this out and creating such havoc?

What if it's their attempt to draw attention away from other things that are much more important?

Like I said, I'm not big on Obama either for or against, so I'm looking at it with a little less bias...

The country is going to hell in a handbag so all the attention of the biggest opponents is focused on something like the legitimacy of a birth certificate (that they probably have a copy of somewhere to pull out at the last minute).

If you want to keep your "enemy busy", give them something to focus on that they can't resist and you can do whatever you want.

Just sayin...



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:43 AM
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Nope... it's all traceable... Taitz and the Koch Bros and the WND scum... it's all easy to track back...



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:46 AM
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And what in your mind do you think that proves?

You have one signed and verified document that says he is Constitutionally qualified, and another more generic form signed and verified.

One doesn't invalidate the other...they are both valid documents.

So...what exactly is your point?

And shouldn't you follow your own standards and demand the original hard copies of both documents instead of a scanned computer image that can be easily forged



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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It's my mad googling skills...



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