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BIG NEWS- Arpaio: Obama birth record 'definitely fraudulent'

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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 10:54 AM
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When the information is given to the state from the DNC, what makes you think they do their own vetting? They don't! They just assume that the DNC already did their due diligence from the beginning. From my understanding, the information only gets checked if the candidate files the application directly. Not so when the application is filed by the DNC.


Oh...so now the conspiracy involves the entire DNC.





posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by XeroOne
Funny, I don't remember anyone checking George Bush's birth certificate.


There is probably a good reason for that.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 10:55 AM
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Again, that info is only valid for people born a decade plus AFTER Obama. You know that.

That law has absolutely NOTHING to do with Obama.

At all.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by longlostbrother
reply to post by AfterInfinity
 


More lies.

Grandmother never said that:

www.salon.com...

Kenyan BC a proven fake:

www.thefogbow.com...

C'mon... use google before you post any more BS


Haven't you heard...google is in the tank for Obama.

And facts have a liberal bias.

So...that is why they don't use facts are attempt to do any fact checking.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 10:56 AM
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And all the media and state courts, and the Hawaiian government... it's a long list...



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
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So, Noreaster, are you saying that a publisher has released a bio on you that was faulty?


I've caught plenty of mistakes on my own bio blurbs, yes. On CD reviews, book jackets, and press materials. The people who do the grunt work for these "pros" are generally interns, and while the pro gets the paycheck for the work, they also get the blame if they don't check the intern's work before sending it forward within the organization. It happens all the time.

I've had to rescue several bio screw-ups over the years when I was a marketing director, and we were outsourcing the PR effort involving a manufacturing software product (late 90s) launch. The engineering team was led by the guy who invented the PLM industry itself, and you'd think that a PR firm that specializes in the manufacturing software world would know who he is, and not make such stupid errors, but there were two guys with the same last name (not even the same 1st name) in the PLM industry, and they chose the wrong guy to bio.

Most people suck at their job. The estimates are that it might be as high as 80% of professions can barely manage their basic duties in a corporate environment. That might be high, but then again, I've seen enough to suspect that it isn't.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by longlostbrother
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
 


And all the media and state courts, and the Hawaiian government... it's a long list...


Obama's mother, Obama's grandmother, two newspapers in Hawaii....



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 10:58 AM
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Obama and his handlers have invested over 10 million into this button pusher. It's meant to start a race war, riots or distract America from what is being done. Sure, he's not American. So what? There is no solution. Biden for president? Please. This is psychological warfare on America. Americans will decide that truth means nothing and those dirty rats can do whatever they want. Obama will have accomplished his mission and raised the bar on dishonest government. I think he is supposed to destroy the constitution too. Who better to do that than a constitutional lawyer? LOL. I don't believe in presidents. I'm too distracted by the machine of government who only wears the president in it's crown like a jeweled scapegoat.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher

Oh...so now the conspiracy involves the entire DNC.



Do a little research into the difference of the document that Pelosi signed on behalf of the DNC for Hawaii versus the other states. They took out the little bit stating that the DNC recognized Obama as an eligible candidate based on the Constitution when they registered him.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 10:58 AM
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Same here... I also recently saw a CD review that credited all the music on the CD to the musicians in the previous singers band... whoops...

If you've ever dealt with PR people you learn pretty quickly that they aren't fact checkers... they're there to sell stuff, nothing more..



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by Deetermined

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher

Oh...so now the conspiracy involves the entire DNC.



Do a little research into the difference of the document that Pelosi signed on behalf of the DNC for Hawaii versus the other states. They took out the little bit stating that the DNC recognized Obama as an eligible candidate based on the Constitution when they registered him.


I will read all about it in your Birther mega thread that you are going to create to convince the world that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii.

You should probably get started on that instead of continuing to reply here...you have a lot of work to do.

Or are you not going to share your wisdom and knowledge to educate all of us???



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:01 AM
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I'm already sharing it here for a reason.

Too many threads will just spread the reading crowd thin, but thanks for the suggestion anyway.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
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I'm already sharing it here for a reason.

Too many threads will just spread the reading crowd thin, but thanks for the suggestion anyway.


You didn't share anything...you asked me to go on a wild Birther goose chase looking for some document from some place signed by Pelosi.

Sorry...I'm not into Birther games...if you want me to look at something...make a thread about it.


You seem to have it all figured out...why won't you just make a thread and put the issue to rest once and for all???



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:13 AM
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I find that a "volunteer posse" is no more or less credible than the documents released by the White House. In my opinion what does it matter if the man's birth certificate is factual or not? If you don't like Obama why are you followers of his? Why would anyone be forced to follow the orders of a person they disagree with? Really makes no sense at all if you ask me.

Information like this was probably commissioned by the republican party or a contributer of such. Not that the democrats don't pull the same crap. I have nothing against Obama, I just disagree with pretty much everything he stands for, but the same goes for any republican.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:13 AM
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They dont care any more!
They have a short attention span...
hes got away with it.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by TrueAmerican

Investigators for an Arizona sheriff's volunteer posse have declared that President Barack Obama's birth certificate is definitely fraudulent.

Members of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio's posse said in March that there was probable cause that Obama's long-form birth certificate released by the White House in April 2011 was a computer-generated forgery.

Now, Arpaio says investigators are positive it's fraudulent.

Mike Zullo, the posse's chief investigator, said numeric codes on certain parts of the birth certificate indicate that those parts weren't filled out, yet those sections asking for the race of Obama's father and his field of work or study were completed.

Zullo said investigators previously didn't know the meaning of codes but that the codes were explained by a 95-year-old former state worker who signed the president's birth certificate. Zullo said a news reporter who has helped out in the probe let investigators listen in on an interview he concluded of the former state worker.


news.yahoo.com...

Interesting that's on Yahoo news, and top story on Drudge!

Ouch, right down the mainstream, just where Obama didn't want that to go, and any other number of "Guardians".

He's also moving and referring the investigation to the Congress.
Like THAT's going to go anywhere? But hey, Arpaio and crew did their job. They determined the White House release is a fraud, no doubt.

Previously, the Sheriff was not completely convinced, but after this latest investigative phase, is stating this now as "they are sure the BC is fraudulent." That's tough news to swallow for the Obama hopefuls, and will be rejected outright by the Obama Guardians. So? Did YOU do an investigation of the depth and scope that the cold case posse did? No? Then why should I believe you over Arpaio?

Too bad, cause I am not. I believe what Arpaio and crew have determined has way more integrity than any bozo yapping on a conspiracy forum. They've done the research, and reached the fire through the smoke. But looks like that blaze is going to be too much to handle for the local fire dept.
edit on Tue Jul 17th 2012 by TrueAmerican because: (no reason given)


I think after all this time serving his country, he deserves amnesty!
I served in the Viet Nam War (358 days in a war zone). I am ok with Americans going to Canada and they received amnesty. Why not Obama getting a pat on the back (amnesty) for helping out our country?

Plus George Romney was not born in the US. Plus ancestors fled the US and took multiple wives which he stated that he thinks is wrong. If their watching over him from the other side they might not be too happy with that statement.

Talk about fraud, check out the ROOTS of the book of mormon and how the DNA OF THOSE PEOPLE, HOW IT DOES NOT match the hebrews DNA that were supposed to have sailed across the ocean to the Americas. Scientist have done elaborate testing of living indian decedents of areas that the book of mormon people were to have lived in.

NOW THAT IS IS TRUE FRAUD OF THE WORST KIND!
edit on 18-7-2012 by thetiler because: Making my thoughts clearer and spelling as well



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:20 AM
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According to occupy this isn't important and it is a right wing distraction.

My opinion is that obama is the puppet just as occupy is and they both have the same masters.
International socialists, aka new-age trotskyism.


Originally posted by TrueAmerican

Investigators for an Arizona sheriff's volunteer posse have declared that President Barack Obama's birth certificate is definitely fraudulent.

Members of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio's posse said in March that there was probable cause that Obama's long-form birth certificate released by the White House in April 2011 was a computer-generated forgery.

Now, Arpaio says investigators are positive it's fraudulent.

Mike Zullo, the posse's chief investigator, said numeric codes on certain parts of the birth certificate indicate that those parts weren't filled out, yet those sections asking for the race of Obama's father and his field of work or study were completed.

Zullo said investigators previously didn't know the meaning of codes but that the codes were explained by a 95-year-old former state worker who signed the president's birth certificate. Zullo said a news reporter who has helped out in the probe let investigators listen in on an interview he concluded of the former state worker.


news.yahoo.com...

Interesting that's on Yahoo news, and top story on Drudge!

Ouch, right down the mainstream, just where Obama didn't want that to go, and any other number of "Guardians".

He's also moving and referring the investigation to the Congress.
Like THAT's going to go anywhere? But hey, Arpaio and crew did their job. They determined the White House release is a fraud, no doubt.

Previously, the Sheriff was not completely convinced, but after this latest investigative phase, is stating this now as "they are sure the BC is fraudulent." That's tough news to swallow for the Obama hopefuls, and will be rejected outright by the Obama Guardians. So? Did YOU do an investigation of the depth and scope that the cold case posse did? No? Then why should I believe you over Arpaio?

Too bad, cause I am not. I believe what Arpaio and crew have determined has way more integrity than any bozo yapping on a conspiracy forum. They've done the research, and reached the fire through the smoke. But looks like that blaze is going to be too much to handle for the local fire dept.
edit on Tue Jul 17th 2012 by TrueAmerican because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by XeroOne

Originally posted by superman2012

Originally posted by XeroOne

Originally posted by superman2012

Originally posted by XeroOne
Funny, I don't remember anyone checking George Bush's birth certificate.


Funny, I don't remember anyone even questioning if he was a US citizen or not. They sure asked McCain. Was this your first attempt at trying to play the 'race card'? If it was, good try, if not, well, try harder.


My first attempt at playing the race card? Are you serious? It's like someone magically decided to f*ck with Obama on his country of birth. Out of all the things they could have called him out on, it just had to be his nationality.


You do realize, I hope, that if he is not a natural born citizen, he is not eligible to become POTUS. I can't believe I had to say/type that. This is not a new thing. They have been talking about this for some time now. There is nothing "magical" about it. There have been questions regarding his "nationality" for quite some time....unless you just came out from under that rock.


Edit: Nm, I see you are from the UK, your ignorance is forgiven. I just naturally assumed you were from the states. Sorry.
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Oh, I know the issue here, and that little constitutional dilemma your country would find itself in if the certificate's fake. I also know it was a democrat who started this whole thing to get Hilarious Clinton nominated in favour of Obama.
My point is someone might be taking you all for a ride here. There's definitely an agenda here of some sort.

Yes I feel there is some "agenda" behind this as well...
Look at it this way, as Obama mis-speaks on several issues and slips up or sticks his foot in his mouth on another. The whole "fast and furious" fiasco unfolds or gets swept under the rug for now. The american voters become a little more dis-heartened about their leader and the voting numbers slide more to the right or the middle maybe, just maybe the powers that be could let this accusation stick and usher in candidate Clinton or whoever else they have been grooming to step up and mirror their agenda in an acceptable light to the voters of this country.... Stranger things have happened.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:23 AM
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Yes, the DNC filed an "Official Certification of Nomination" for Obama in 49 states claiming he was Constitutionally eligible. The state of Hawaii made them take that part out before they would put him on the ballot.


Instead, a very similar document was delivered to fifty state DNC offices, which those offices certified to each of fifty state Election Commissions, who then date-stamped the document and stuck it in a file cabinet, and proceeded to place these "certified" candidates on the ballot.

The "Official Certification of Nomination" that was presented by the DNC in all fifty states for the 2008 Presidential election, in which Barack Hussein Obama became the new President of the United States, was almost identical, and it too was signed by Chair of the DNC Convention and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, DNC Secretary Alice Travis Germond and Notary of Public Shalifa A. Williamson, dated August 28, 2008.

But this version of the document was missing the following text, and I quote;

"- and that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution."


www.canadafreepress.com...

A copy of the document is included in the link.

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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 11:25 AM
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I have yet to see any proof for this other than some dodgy looking scans on a few anti-Obama sites... I can name several cases where Birthers have forged documents and I am highly suspect of this unless someone somewhere has something other than a birther blog to back this up.

So go find me some real proof that this is true.



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