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Eyewitness to Bohemian Grove human sacrifice!

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posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 05:43 PM
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this guy confesses to kidnapping and conspiracy to murder (I think - not a great jurist!) - why is he still on the streets??


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posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
why is he still on the streets??



Simple.
As it stands the mainstream will think him a kook and laugh at his story. To arrest him lends creedance to his claims, and potentially indict others.
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posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 05:57 PM
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I don't even need to click on the video...anyone with a mustache like that...you KNOW he knows what's going on behind the scenes...



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by crawdad1914

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
why is he still on the streets??



Simple.
As it stands the mainstream will think him a kook and laugh at his story. To arrest him lends creedance to his claims, and potentially indict others.
edit on 17-7-2012 by crawdad1914 because: follow up comment


Exactly. I've always said how TPTB don't need to kill whistleblowers anymore (like I believe they used to do). Instead now they just poison the population to think said person is crazy. That basically neutralizes their message (except for with other "crazy" people).



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 06:04 PM
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posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 06:04 PM
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I know nothing of this particular case, although nothing that Grovesmen do would surprise me, so who knows?
I certainly would not just discount what he is saying as lunacy or lying.
Im no expert certainly, but everything I have read on reading body language tells me the guy is either being truthfull or he at least believes what he says to be factual.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by Fineousstitch
en.wikipedia.org...


thanks for that - I was not at all familiar with the victim



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 06:24 PM
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So where is the proof? I don't really trust conspiracy theorists that are protesting outside of the Bohemian Grove to not be schizophrenic.

Why would this guy not go to the police if he has no problem admitting it on cam? Makes no sense at all
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posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by crawdad1914

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
why is he still on the streets??



Simple.
As it stands the mainstream will think him a kook and laugh at his story. To arrest him lends creedance to his claims, and potentially indict others.
edit on 17-7-2012 by crawdad1914 because: follow up comment
I don't believe this notion that "If we kill him, people will get suspicious!" If they want to kill someone, they will, especially if they get some random guy to kidnap someone, but to then let him witness what they do to the kidnapped and set him free? This all sounds pretty suspicious, plus it's a 49 second video that gets promptly cut off.

I searched up Kevin Collins, and there was that one who was kidnapped in 1984 who was attending Catholic school, and seems to be well known, famous for being on milk cartons. Could this guy just be using this well known boy for his story? Maybe he's right, but if he was kidnapped in 1984, then this guy had this knowledge for nearly 30 years. But it all seems suspicious still...

Here's another video of this man, and he states some stuff about mind control or mental issues:



He has a Facebook also, and seems to be part of Occupy. But as stated above, he admitted he probably has a screw loose somewhere.


Take all this knowledge however you want. The whole "satanic ritual" and sacrificing virgin Christians (or Catholics) raises flags for me.
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posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 


So where is the proof? I don't really trust conspiracy theorists that are protesting outside of the Bohemian Grove to not be schizophrenic.


Why is that? Could it be because that's what "they" want us to believe?

I've seen a few people on youtube over the past couple of years claim to be witness to a blood ritual involving government figures, who are so traumatized that they choose ANY method to tell their story. They get labeled "schizo" and "off medication" as well...

I've met one or two people who claim to have witnessed some crazy # too, not necessarily blood rituals, but still. They seemed quite sane to me. So does this man.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 06:29 PM
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Originally posted by AdamsMurmur

Originally posted by crawdad1914

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
why is he still on the streets??



Simple.
As it stands the mainstream will think him a kook and laugh at his story. To arrest him lends creedance to his claims, and potentially indict others.
edit on 17-7-2012 by crawdad1914 because: follow up comment
I don't believe this notion that "If we kill him, people will get suspicious!" If they want to kill someone, they will, especially if they get some random guy to kidnap someone, but to then let him witness what they do to the kidnapped and set him free? This all sounds pretty suspicious, plus it's a 49 second video that gets promptly cut off.

I searched up Kevin Collins, and there was that one who was kidnapped in 1984 who was attending Catholic school, and seems to be well known, famous for being on milk cartons. Could this guy just be using this well known boy for his story? Maybe he's right, but if he was kidnapped in 1984, then this guy had this knowledge for nearly 30 years. But it all seems suspicious still...

Here's another video of this man, and he states some stuff about mind control or mental issues:



He has a Facebook also, and seems to be part of Occupy. But as stated above, he admitted he probably has a screw loose somewhere.


Take all this knowledge however you want. The whole "satanic ritual" and sacrificing virgin Christians (or Catholics) raises flags for me.
edit on 17/7/12 by AdamsMurmur because: (no reason given)


It's true, if they want to kill him they will, however they don't HAVE to. They just make him out to be "crazy", which actually serves their interests better than any other outcome.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 06:30 PM
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What an odd comment. Are you aware this is a conspiracy website? There is a whole forum here dedicated to secret societies too. Maybe this is more your speed... www.foxnews.com...
I would school you on the significance of groups like Bohemian club but i dont have much patience and it would take days maybe weeks to create a full thread on it.

Enjoy ignorance or as I like to call it The Homer consciousness



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 06:31 PM
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Didn't Kevin Collins get kidnapped a LONG time ago?



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 


So where is the proof? I don't really trust conspiracy theorists that are protesting outside of the Bohemian Grove to not be schizophrenic.

Why would this guy not go to the police if he has no problem admitting it on cam? Makes no sense at all
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Going to the local police about possible government involvement in a blood sacrifice?? The local police would arrest him, say he murdered the kid since he admitted to being involved in the kidnapping, and they'd close the case. He wouldn't even get the CHANCE to tell this story in court.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by azbowhunter
Didn't Kevin Collins get kidnapped a LONG time ago?


1984 according to the wiki link provided above. He's not talking about a recent meeting.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 06:32 PM
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Most if not all of them only know about the Bohemian Grove because they watched that ridiculous Alex Jones documentary.

My aunt will swear up and down that she has a family in california and seems completely sane. Whole thing is that shes nuts and has never been there.

You have heard a 30 second sound bite on a youtube video and you're already making a claim that he seems quite sane. That's the problem with you people. You believe anything and make assumptions with absolutely no evidence. You are gullible.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by My.mind.is.mine
 


Most if not all of them only know about the Bohemian Grove because they watched that ridiculous Alex Jones documentary.

My aunt will swear up and down that she has a family in california and seems completely sane. Whole thing is that shes nuts and has never been there.

You have heard a 30 second sound bite on a youtube video and you're already making a claim that he seems quite sane. That's the problem with you people. You believe anything and make assumptions with absolutely no evidence. You are gullible.


Whoa... I didn't say I believed it. But since you seem so interested with my verdict, I simply wouldn't doubt what this man is saying. He knows he can't prove it, but the claim is quite interesting indeed.

and who the eff are "you people"? You mean the people who question everything? You mean MOST people on ATS?

And how do YOU know about Bohemian Grove? What made the documentary with actual footage "ridiculous"??
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posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by My.mind.is.mine
 


Most if not all of them only know about the Bohemian Grove because they watched that ridiculous Alex Jones documentary.

My aunt will swear up and down that she has a family in california and seems completely sane. Whole thing is that shes nuts and has never been there.

You have heard a 30 second sound bite on a youtube video and you're already making a claim that he seems quite sane. That's the problem with you people. You believe anything and make assumptions with absolutely no evidence. You are gullible.


What exactly was it about the infiltration video of the Grove by Jones, did you find "ridiculous"?



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 06:37 PM
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We are by no means saying he is telling the truth. But if you were aware of anything about Bohemian grove you would know of a little something called the crucifixion of care. Therefore this is why this story peaks our interest.
Feel free to research any of this

edit on 17-7-2012 by Fineousstitch because: bad spelling lol



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 


So where is the proof? I don't really trust conspiracy theorists that are protesting outside of the Bohemian Grove to not be schizophrenic.

Why would this guy not go to the police if he has no problem admitting it on cam? Makes no sense at all


Indeed - your questions occured to me too - is the guy for real? Did he actually do this crime or is he just surfing on it for publicity?

sorry - my question "why isn't he in custody?" was sort of meant as a bit rhetorical & meant to imply pretty much what you have asked, as well as "Is this real?", and all eth other questions people have asked.

Cheers



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