posted on Sep, 17 2014 @ 10:58 AM
a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Ok, now to the point of how religion keeps us separated from god. Religion teaches us that in order to get to heaven, we must believe in god, and in
order to reach heaven, you must first die and leave this universe. This is a lie, and the fundamental way in how religion keeps us seperate from god.
Heaven is described as the kingdom OF god, which means that god and his kingdom are not separate but the same. His kingdom is him and he is his
Most Christian bibles do tell us that we must die and the saved spirit leave this terrestrial world to reside in the third heaven. Within this third
heaven is the New Jerusalem where the trees and water of eternal life are found. The unsaved spirit is confined in the terrestrial world till they
are cast into the ethereal fire to be destroyed. You call this a lie? Just to be clear in what you are promoting.
I am pretty much bible based and by that you know where I stand. This entire conversation is based upon theological differences so actually proof
cannot be shown either by me or by you. Even if I were a total atheist I would fall into that theological category. It makes no difference the age
of a belief and this is proven in theoretical science also.
By your thread I am led to understand that you believe this terrestrial existence is your God.
There are some scientists who prove to themselves that the universe is expanding at a great rate. If they are are correct then what is god expanding
into? If your universe god is the universe then what you are postulating is that your god is expanding into his own self and filling his own void
that he creates by expansion. Why this is important is that if this is true then god has a beginning as a god (universe) and must depend upon other
substances for expansion. Does this mean that you have polytheistic theology?
Why do you die and what happens when you die. Does everyone eventually reach your god consciousness? Do you have any substance change after death?
Could you explain a little more how your theology works? Do you have a body and a spirit? What happens as you die and why do you die? Does everyone
live forever and if they do where is this forever place? Is all of this reality of consciousness?