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That story is a metaphor for natural moral standards that are naturally ingrained into our psyche. Nothing supernatural at all. I apologize if I confused you and am now somehow disappointing you.
Well it seems a bit pointless that he sent his only begotten son to Earth to spread his message only for him to suppress his message by intentionally having man edit out his gospels.
To Digest is To convert (food) into simpler chemical compounds that can be absorbed and assimilated by the body, as by chemical and muscular action in the alimentary canal. 2. To think over so as to understand; absorb or assimilate.
What if....God was so much smarter than we could even imagine, that He created a book that only could be understood by those who in their heart chosen to serve Him?
Man cannot stop God from anything... neither can Lucifer.
If he is so much smarter, then how the HELL do you know ANYTHING about him??
You are arrogant to the point of talking about things you have no clue about. And one day, you're going to die, and realize "Holy crud, he was right." And you'll be happier for it, because the truth is an amazing thing that you never thought of before because you didn't have the KNOWLEDGE.
Make sense? No? I'm not surprised. You guys always did have a hard time thinking.
Lucifer has nothing to do with this. There is no such thing as the devil. It's amazing how we're past the age of superstition and myth, yet you swallow it like wine. Your religion is useless, dead in the water. It has no practicality. And honestly, I think that's why you like it. All the benefits, none of the work.
Lazy Homo Sapiens. Work for your salvation. Save the world, and study some science along the way. You can't find the answers without science. And I very dearly hope you're interested in finding answers...otherwise, you've already lost. edit on 21-7-2012 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)
I had and hold a strong desire to know Him and because of this desire, I put knowledge of Him and learning His ways above all else.
I have been doing two things here, trying to clarify what the OP understands so I understand clearly what he is saying and sharing with the OP just a little of the understanding I personally get from the bible. I am not sure how it comes off as arrogant.
Actually sweetheart, If you would have included a copy of the text that support your conclusions, it would be easier to understand. This is what grown up people do in college...they include evidence to support claims they make.
Ah, now I understand, you reject God. Ok, now you make more sense. The definition of religion is a set of beliefs...I wonder though, how is it that people like you can reject every person that is tagged as religious and then complain about the condition of the world?
My religion sir, is my own... it is a set of beliefs that I have concluded to be true until I learn otherwise.
You seem to claim some kind of superiority over me, so share with me why you claim this position of superiority... what makes you more knowledgeable than me?
Hmmm.. I don't work for salvation, that's not possible...
Oh and darling, the bible supports all the technology of today and is even ahead of Man's advancements in the area, and I find no contradictions between Science and the bible.
There can be nothing 'super'natural within this natural universe.
Supernatural means some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature. Are we sure that man indeed understands everything yet?
What you're not understanding is that there is no invisible god that watches over us. The real 'god' cares not what happens to us or what we do, it does not have a plan for anyone. If anything 'god' is indifferent. Man creates his own destiny by the actions that he takes, some choose to be good people, others choose to be bad because they want more money and in order to get that money they will do anything, including starting wars based on complete lies. People who are influenced by other men are unknowingly influenced, meaning they believe what they are doing is their own choice when really they were influenced to make that choice.
Don't take this as me trying to influence you into believing a certain way, believe what you want, it is your choice what you believe. You are asking questions and I am just giving you my honest opinion.
Is he infinite?
Don't belittle me. I don't claim to understand Source, at least not to the degree that I make promises of salvation to anyone I talk to about Source.
That's easy. Christians think they don't have to do anything to save the world. They're wrong.
"Concluded" is a highly suspect word. It suggests you've compiled evidence to support your beliefs. What evidence have you found?
Science. Recent science, corroborated by ancient texts. Texts that are a lot more logical than a God who judges by moral standard - which, by the way, we invented. We humans invented morals, and we humans are the first ones to come up with gods.
From where I'm sitting, I see the Bible (as preached about today) as talking about a man who's been dead for centuries floating out of the sky and making everything okay in less than 24 hours, before casting half the world into hell and glorifying the other half for doing nothing but debasing themselves and not aiming for the stars.
Because yes, space travel is a sin according to the Bible. Along with a plethora of other things. It was recently refreshed in my memory as pair of zealots held a sign up at a fair listing the people going to hell. It was quite infuriating.
Then why do you follow something that presumes to understand "God"? If we don't know everything about the universe, then we know next to nothing about "God". This is what I'm trying to say to you.
Originally posted by ScatterBrain
reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
What you're not understanding is that there is no invisible god that watches over us. The real 'god' cares not what happens to us or what we do, it does not have a plan for anyone. If anything 'god' is indifferent. Man creates his own destiny by the actions that he takes, some choose to be good people, othewrs choose to be bad because they want more money and in order to get that money they will do anything, including starting wars based on complete lies. People who are influenced by other men are unknowingly influenced, meaning they believe what they are doing is their own choice when really they were influenced to make that choice.
Well I agree with you that there is no Guy in the sky watching over us I disagree that God is indifferent, I would say his opposition is indifferent or might I be so bold as to say a friction? I know people think God is indifferent because a child is murdered and stuff like that. I don't understand that to be the truth. I agree man makes most of his own decisions... I was confused because in another post you said some are influenced to be greedy but was through no fault of their own. Aren't decisions like that a choice (to be greedy)?
I also understand this last part you wrote...it's like people will get untruthful information and based on that information do something that hurts themselves or others.
Do you agree that there are good influences and bad influences. If so, do you believe that it there is anything other than man who is capable of influencing people? Like make everyone in a town turn absolutely bonkers for a day....(mass hysteria).
So basically you agree with my theory all the way except the part about there being no judgmental/self-aware/sentient god with intent? I don't use judgemental in a negative way, your god does judge so I'm just stating the obvious. No, science hasen't proven everything yet, but it's not slowing down any time soon either. We are discovering something new about the universe everyday, so who is to say that sometime in the future we won't know everything? There is no evidence scientifically available that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that 'god' is a judgmental, self-aware, sentient being with intent.