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The end of Assad. Strategic outlook

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posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 11:24 PM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
reply to post by Ranong
 


Its because the FSA are on the losing grip and are on the defeat, because if you notice by the level of the posts and threads for the FSA, they are getting desperate.


Pretty good Baghdad Bob imitation.
Never mind them Assad helicopters blasting things away for the first time in the capital only hours ago, that could never be misconstrued as desperate.




posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 11:28 PM
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Originally posted by Ranong
There is some EXTREME shilling for FSA going on ATS today, and its insulting to the intelligence of level-headed,open minded members on ATS.


Quoted for Truth.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 11:33 PM
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End of Assads Syria but an Alawite State is a possibility they will be at the mercy of the Sunnis who they don't want to get ruled by.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 11:35 PM
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Originally posted by Tomato
End of Assads Syria but an Alawite State is a possibility they will be at the mercy of the Sunnis who they don't want to get ruled by.


End of Assads Syria? really
highly unlikely, thats what your FSA supporters and the mainstream news outlets have proclaiming since 17 months ago.

I guess you believe this thread OP whose an Agent for an government web analytics and has admitted it.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 11:38 PM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter

Originally posted by Tomato
End of Assads Syria but an Alawite State is a possibility they will be at the mercy of the Sunnis who they don't want to get ruled by.


End of Assads Syria? really
highly unlikely, thats what your FSA supporters and the mainstream news outlets have proclaiming since 17 months ago.

I guess you believe this thread OP whose an Agent for an government web analytics and has admitted it.



I'm not a FSA supporter nor do I follow the mainstream propaganda, but if everything else fails Assad has planned an Alawite state by the coastline to protect his Clan with protection from Russia and his Chemical and Biological Arsenal.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by TinfoilTP

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
reply to post by Ranong
 


Its because the FSA are on the losing grip and are on the defeat, because if you notice by the level of the posts and threads for the FSA, they are getting desperate.


Pretty good Baghdad Bob imitation.
Never mind them Assad helicopters blasting things away for the first time in the capital only hours ago, that could never be misconstrued as desperate.


euronews - 14 hours ago The Syrian army is said to have used helicopters for the first time in Damascus to attack at least one district where rebels have been gaining the .

From Google News, search the title and the text from your own thread, who do you think you are fooling here? you claim it was two hours yet this news article is from 14 hours ago.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 11:42 PM
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Assad unlike his father didn't get rid of the problem at the beginning thus letting his forces get weaker and weaker, but the FSA has no chance of winning at the moment.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 11:43 PM
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reply to post by Tomato
 




I'm not a FSA supporter nor do I follow the mainstream propaganda, but if everything else fails Assad has planned an Alawite state by the coastline to protect his Clan with protection from Russia and his Chemical and Biological Arsenal.


If your not an FSA supporter then since your a new member, why have you then replied in this thread? i am not surpised you give TinfoilTP a like






to protect his Clan with protection from Russia and his Chemical and Biological Arsenal.

Thats funny didnt you say in the same post that you.
I'm not a FSA supporter nor do I follow the mainstream propaganda
Yet you are believing the Assad would use Chemical and Biological Arsenal weapons against Syrians, thats not someone who is not following the mainstream propaganda.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
reply to post by Tomato
 




I'm not a FSA supporter nor do I follow the mainstream propaganda, but if everything else fails Assad has planned an Alawite state by the coastline to protect his Clan with protection from Russia and his Chemical and Biological Arsenal.


If your not an FSA supporter then since your a new member, why have you then replied in this thread? i am not surpised you give TinfoilTP a like






to protect his Clan with protection from Russia and his Chemical and Biological Arsenal.

Thats funny didnt you say in the same post that you.
I'm not a FSA supporter nor do I follow the mainstream propaganda
Yet you are believing the Assad would use Chemical and Biological Arsenal weapons against Syrians, thats not someone who is not following the mainstream propaganda.


It gave a few points I agree with, anyone who needs to ensure the survival of it's people would Assad won't use his WMD arsenal unless he formed his own state which would be threatened by the majority of the Sunnis.
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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 12:19 AM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter

Originally posted by TinfoilTP

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
reply to post by Ranong
 


Its because the FSA are on the losing grip and are on the defeat, because if you notice by the level of the posts and threads for the FSA, they are getting desperate.


Pretty good Baghdad Bob imitation.
Never mind them Assad helicopters blasting things away for the first time in the capital only hours ago, that could never be misconstrued as desperate.


euronews - 14 hours ago The Syrian army is said to have used helicopters for the first time in Damascus to attack at least one district where rebels have been gaining the .

From Google News, search the title and the text from your own thread, who do you think you are fooling here? you claim it was two hours yet this news article is from 14 hours ago.



First time helicopter gunships were used by Assads forces in the capital, it happened less than 24 hours ago so it is hours.
Helicopter gunships, this is undeniable escalation.

When Saddam used helicopter gunships to suppress Iraqis, the UN imposed no fly zones. The situation here is the same, intervention is just around the corner.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101

Thanks for the futher info on the types of chem weapons avaliable in Syria and to the HumanSlayer Assad today. Much more disconcerting than words can ever write, even as those HumanSlayer supporters sought to condemn and distract the more rational minds on ATS with their posts, and probably using other nicks to support their beliefs, nothing new.

Just heard on the news that the HumanSlayer supporter Putin once again had rebuff international FREE world and UN Annan's efforts for a compromise to join in, be a responsible member of the Human Race that Putin, the illegitimate election fraudster of the Russian People that the cold war killer ex-KGB agent Putin is.

This senile old fool and his bunch of corrupt rubber stamping parliament drunk on oil wealth knows not how critical the situation had became,

The end for the beast Assad is near, and so too a significant portion of mankind when the chemical weapons all blows up enmass.

What that idiotic relic of the past Putin is proposing for transitional govt of which Assad will be involved. But WHICH court, throughtout the course of human civilisation, would ever ALLOW a murderer to be the judge and jury???

If it was done in the early days, immediately after day 1 of the HumanSlayer Assad's brutal and insane slaughter of unarmed innocent men, women and children whom were only pleading for reforms and succor from the leader, that might have worked, if forcefully and quickly enforced as in Egypt.

Unfortunately, it was not, thanks to the China CCP govt and old world relic Putin, it was not. As a result, the animal Assad saw it as a sign of support and SLAUGHTERED even more innocent men, women and children - farmers, wives, goatherds, tradesmen, schoolkids, etc, by the TENS of THOUSANDS for 14 months!!!!

NOW, it is already long past for talks. The Free Syrian People are only looking for the HumanSlayer Assad and his brutal minion heads. They are NOT gonna CARE about their own lives, or nukes, or CHEMICAL weapons. They are driven insane by the butchery of their loved ones by the thousands in the presence of their eyes.

All they will care NOW is to have Assad and his forces heads, even if they have to GIVE UP their precious lives, as the insane but absolutely courageous synonymous with the will of the human spirit for freedom and JUSTICE - Damascus Attack to get Assad, with pitchforks and AK47s against tanks and chopper gunships!

May our common Creator forgive Putin and his bunch of incompetent corrupted idiots. They knew not what they are doing, blinded by greed and power...... We, the rest of humanity whom will inherit the atmospheric, crops and water contamination/destruction for days and even months to come, will remember what the CCP govt and Putin had done to Syria and mankind, for generations to come, if we survive.......


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Just heard the Free Syrian Army commander had given up hope on world's efforts at sanctions, and even that refused by Putin, as the struggle now goes beyond any use of sanction help. Kofi Annan was right to delay the UN vote now. Chapter 7 is useless based upon new realities. The Rebellion wants the HumanSlayer's head regardless of the cost.

It would be a no brainer as to the victory will be for whom. The FSA had proven themselves courageous beyond belief in the course of human history, ak47s against tanks and choppers, far more than the imperial japan army of the 40s and the vietnamese.

But in that victory...lays death for all....

The issue right now is the Chemical Weapons stockpile. Beast Assad will depress the button for multiple launch when he knows the end is near. The Death Star ( his regime's top guns) is gone, the emperor is alone and holds the keys now. The empire will strike back, in the only way it knows how. Press that button and all Syria will die, along with neighbouring nations and our world that have to deal with the residue fallout.

The solution:-
1. FSA quickly destroy the beast and hopefully, he hasnt remote command or detonated those weapons.

2. America, with its tech, to stop those weapons, in missile or tank ammo form. Turkey is the nearest friendly state.

3. Divine intervention, that the beast do not press the button.

In any case, the Free world best standby divisions of medical doctors with antidotes to chemical weapons, to save as much lives as possible, including neighbours, once that button is pressed. Syria can be a wasteland, but human lives MUST be saved where possible.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 02:27 PM
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Well with that it shows which you support oh and i think after this thread, you wouldnt be supporting them.
Al jazeera Accidentally Admits it, Syrian Mujahideen
And you replied to yourself?



2. America, with its tech, to stop those weapons, in missile or tank ammo form. Turkey is the nearest friendly state.

If you want to risk a war with Russia Sryia and seeing the Russian forces coming through the eastern flank, while capturing some main key strategic points you sure want to risk it?




3. Divine intervention, that the beast do not press the button.

Highly unlikely again read above at point 2 on why it wont happen.
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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 02:36 PM
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From Israeli Air Force Base 8 (Tel Nof ) The 106th together with 114th Squadron (The CH-53 Sea Stallion) are on operational readiness, should Assad panic the coming weeks and deploy his WMD from his current position/hide on the An-Nusayriyah (alawite) mountains. Equally, NATO/USAFE squads on Incirlik Air Base are on OR, should WMD be ready to be released.

Russia is not an issue here, because although Putin can allow Assad to do much towards his people in exchange for the ability to use port Tartus, he can never defend him if he chooses to kill his own people and the people of Israel (orTurkey), by the potential drift of Chemical "headwinds" from released VX or Sarin. It would be political suicide in the world opinion, which even Sergej Lavrov cannot spin to their advantage.

If the go comes to said forces, it will be a swift attack and very precise. Assad knows this through his own military Intel, which is the sole reason he hesitates to deploy and release his WMD.

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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 02:44 PM
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Just to add:-

The blame games begin.

The Beast assad had blame Isreal and USA for its mess he is in now.

Fact is EVERYONE must consider:- WHO slaughtered the innocent UNARMED men, women and children, whom were only peacefully pleading with their leader for help, mercy and civil reform, on day 1 of the Syrian revolution? It wasn't Americans or Israelis there. IT was only that animal's own citizens. And it wasn't Israeli or american bullets that shattered countless innocent lives there. It was the HumanSlayer Assad's.

Are we so blind, filled with past hatreds, illusions of unhappened future such as the mythical 'Muslim Caliphate' that it is so difficult to determine acknowledge the truth?

Putin right now considers the Free Syrian Army as 'rebels', of all people, and accused the Free world of supporting the rebels. Had he forgotten what his noble founding fathers were, in the innocent days of the great communist revolution, revolting against the horrors of Tsar Peter like what the animal Assad is doing to his own people, before stalin seized power?

Sad day for Russia, his words and actions only proved to the great and brave Russian People how far he and his rubber stamping parliament had fallen, engrossed by the oil wealth of corruption it brings, and the determination to protect such wealth at all cost, even if it means enslaving the Russian People and the world again....



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by johncarter

If the go comes to said forces, it will be a swift attack and very precise. Assad knows this through his own military Intel, which is the sole reason he hesitates to deploy and release his WMD.


I fully agree with your post that Russia will fail to justify that animal Assad if he presses the button, except for the above.

He is only a human, and fortunately, no matter how humans behave, a pattern, a profile, can be determined based upon his actions and motivations. It had proven successful in many cases, and even in historical studies throughout the course of our recorded human civilisation.

He is no different from the devils Stalin, Hitler and Mao.

Even though a muslim, with priviledged and peaceful islamic upbringing that teaches morality and responsibility above all, he had proven he is willing to slaughter fellow muslim humans in order to ensure his own survival and priviledges, not by one, or few, but by tens of thousands as the records through the 14months of Syrian Revolution had shown.

When cornered, would he do otherwise? There can be no doubt, that he will behave as Hitler did - gotterdermerung - death to all, for he knows that there is no way he will survive when the fighters are right at his doorstep, either in the palace or his hideout in the mountains, as they will surely come no matter what they world now says, for in truth, we the world, had failed the Syrian People and watched tens of thousands of them die mercilessly during those long months of suffering when they pleaded for our help, Putin and the China CCP govt notwithstanding....

What is to come will come...we mankind in the least now can only offer our medical help to save as much lives as possible. They will need it above all....



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 03:23 PM
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A recap of the day here. very informative video from NYT

NYT on Syria today

The violence in Damascus has now reached nightmarish levels.

warning: extremely graphic video showing two syrian civilians killed by Assad´s special forces.




Soon to come;




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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 04:29 PM
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From the video.


all I heard was the same word over and over


Its pretty clear you are in tiled to your own propaganda and someone must be giving you some plenty of cents to do this.

Oh and John.
BBC world news editor: Houla massacre coverage based on opposition propaganda

Source

In reality, this was an example of opposition propaganda that was anything but “brilliant”. The photograph of dozens of shrouded corpses was actually taken by Marco di Lauro in Iraq on March 27, 2003 and was of white body bags containing skeletons found in a desert south of Baghdad.



“Given the difficulties of reporting inside Syria, video filed by the opposition on Twitter, Facebook and YouTube may provide some insight into the story on the ground. But stories are never black and white—often shades of grey. Those opposed to President Assad have an agenda. One senior Western official went as far as to describe their YouTube communications strategy as ‘brilliant’. But he also likened it to so-called ‘psy-ops’, brainwashing techniques used by the US and other military to convince people of things that may not necessarily be true.”

How soon did our few ATS users forget that?

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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by johncarter

warning: extremely graphic video showing two syrian civilians killed by Assad´s special forces.



Prove it please.

Thank you.



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 01:53 AM
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If regime loyalists, loyalist members of the Alawite community and the remnants of the regime were to withrdraw to the Alawite mountians and the Nort Western region, that would mean they have lost control of the majoirty of Syrian territory and have lost legitimacy. This would mean that a new sovereign would take control and they would be able to invite international military aid and so forth without having to worry so much about Russia. In effect it would be a move of desperation, signaling an inability to have any control in Syria and mark the end of the Baathist regime. I doubt it would occur with the regimes current position, which while it is weakening and major gains have been earned by the opposition, still controls the majoirty of the terriotyr and heavy weapons.

What is interesting is that the opposition has become more organisied and well armed thanks to Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Kuwait and Qatar, and what else is interesting is that high level military officers and generals have defected to the opposition recently. Could this mark the begining of the end? Or is it a brief hiccup?



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 03:34 AM
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The huge red color shows armed activity, the rebels dont have the control of the country nor 60% of it, it also sems that the rebels are coming through from Israelis border .

Its a brief hiccup, from what i have seen thus far. also this the current map.
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