Atheist terrorists are as bad as any other religious extremist

reply to post by SpookyVince

his is different from atheism. Again, I am not aware of anyone having killed "in the name of atheism".

Like any one is going to say I have conquered and massacred these people because there is no God !
Or because God does not exist ! Or because I don't believe in God ! Even tho I can't figure out why we would evolve
believing and even having a word in our languages.....Globally. Or can't begin to tell you how we got here with out there being one. Still I have done this because I have decided there isn't one. So Naah !

In the name of atheism.

Originally posted by greentaylor
reply to post by ignorant_ape

 

so much for " atheist terrorism " - they didnt ban belief in god , or worship - only forbade allegience to a foreign head of state - rather a big difference

I simply just had to laugh as I saw what your username is.

so according to you this guy's story is all a lie?

en.wikipedia.org...

here's the TLDR version for you:

Seen as a rebel among some Chinese for not joining the 'official' government-controlled Christian organization (see: Three-Self Patriotic Movement), he was imprisoned and tortured by the government authorities. His book claims that he became a highly wanted man across several provinces.[1] He was finally arrested and sentenced to many years in prison. However, Yun continued his ministry while in prison

The "Christian" government sponsored religion of China huh? I wonder if there is an ATS in China somewhere telling themselves to deny ignorance? Conspiracy in this whole pot smells of rotten eggs

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Bravo.

As they say: 2nd line.

Originally posted by SpookyVince
reply to post by borntowatch

 

You're mixing it.

Religious terrorism is killing for religious reasons.

The Khmer, Mao or Stalin have not killed because of atheism.

Their reasons were other.

You're missing what he is saying, which is alot of people do not give a damn about the sacredness of life, doesn't matter if religion is involved or not. Atheists are just as capable of committing genocide as islamic militants.

Atheists hate being called out and have no idea how to handle it other than with anger, insults, and wordplay.

Just read the majority of comments online anywhere where a atheist proudly struts their stuff and you will see how the majority are in the mental stability and respect for others' opinions department.

Bravo Born!!!

I hope none of the religious participants in this thread are planning to pursue a legal career.

It seems like none of them would be able to understand the legal term "primary motive for a crime".

reply to post by ColCurious


And I hope none of the atheist on this thread ever pursue a career where they actually have to try and help people that have no hope in life.

I would rather die believeing in something like God than spend my life suppressing the unconscious depressed feeling that there is nothing or no moral to live by other than the theory we are just animals with no soul.

Originally posted by ColCurious
I hope none of the religious participants in this thread are planning to pursue a legal career.

It seems like none of them would be able to understand the legal term "primary motive for a crime".

No career of blood sucking for me thanks. Not that all lawyers are blood suckers but, well you've heard the jokes.

Lol! Whenever I read enough comments about gods, I want to watch the movie "Harvey".

reply to post by JAGx1981

Believe it or not, high ethical and moral standards do not necessarily require religious upbringing.

Originally posted by randyvs
No career of blood sucking for me thanks. Not that all lawyers are blood suckers but, well you've heard the jokes.

Ha! At least you're funny.

reply to post by borntowatch


atheism is not a religion, it perplexes me that you do not understand this. by your logic worshiping a god is the only thing that keeps you from murdering babies and smoking their toes in a crack pipe. by the way you can throw christian websites up as reliable sources all day, they are nothing more than biased opinions. what is your solution to all this murder, mayhem and carnage supposedly caused by atheists? or are you just venting? have a nice day and god bless

reply to post by ColCurious


That makes no sense other than to insult ( see first post) ah it's worthless, I'll leave you to it. You the man with the plan..

Originally posted by pushmepullu
reply to post by borntowatch

 

atheism is not a religion, it perplexes me that you do not understand this. by your logic worshiping a god is the only thing that keeps you from murdering babies and smoking their toes in a crack pipe. by the way you can throw christian websites up as reliable sources all day, they are nothing more than biased opinions. what is your solution to all this murder, mayhem and carnage supposedly caused by atheists? or are you just venting? have a nice day and god bless

Curiously enough I was once told by an Atheist on this very forum that the only thing that kept me from raping babies was my belief in God.

Admit your fault or stfu.

reply to post by borntowatch


if atheism is a religion, then bald is a hair color.

reply to post by DeadSeraph

can't argue with that, shutting the (SNIP) up.

I'd be very surprised if half of the posters on this thread (and I'm pointing at the Christians) know the difference between any of the following:
Marxism
Communism
Socialism
Stalinism

They are ALL very different. However, few take the time to research that far.

Atheism is simple. It's the non-belief in deities.

Ideology is the most frequent cause of killing. That can be Christian, Muslim, Communist, Stalinist, Socialist etc. Fundamentalism in any religion or ideology is always dangerous. It's almost never atheism because atheism has no ideal. It's simply a personal choice based on common sense, and the lack of evidence for a deity.

If you are a so-called "Christian" I absolutely guarantee that you pick and choose the bits of the faith you find the most palatable and believe in those bits. The Bible is the 'word of God' and every word is true, but you don't adhere to every part of it, do you? Call it sin, or call it whatever you like, you don't live like your holy book tells you. There's bits you think are absolutely clear and must be obeyed, and there's bits you think are just allegorical and shouldn't be taken literally. Admit it. The "Old testament" doesn't count, apparently, unless you need it. The ten commandments are "Old testament." You like them, but you don't like the bit about stoning your children to death if they are unruly, do you?

Atheists aren't bothered. They live good lives and don't worry about being watched by some invisible power.

Ideology is where conflict arises. Atheism is not idealistic. It's simply not being concerned with Bronze age (and before) stories and myths, UNLESS you can provide some solid evidence. Then they have an open mind.
Do you? If solid evidence for the nonexistence of your God was brought forward would you suddenly stop believing it him/her/it/3.14? Of course you wouldn't.

The Khmer Rouge didn't kill because they were atheists. They killed based on their ideology.
Atheism has no ideology.

These threads are pointless. People try to reason with each other but its impossible.

Religious folk find it impossible to conceive of people without religious belief. In the same way a dog cant conceive of quantum mechanics. Their mindset just wont allow it.

As such, they can only discuss Atheism as a competing religion to theirs (whatever flavour it is). Since thiers is the only true one(God told them so) the Athiests are at best wrong and requiring saving. At worst evil disciples of satan.

Athiests on the other hand find it impossible to reconcile smart human beings with the stuff in religious texts, feeling the suppressed need to shout "your a moron" when encountering people believing in invisible creator beings and talking snakes. This can sometimes manifest in less than civil discourse.

It always, without fail, boils down to:

Faith Guy: Athiesm is a religion for bad people.

Athiest: Its not a religion

Faith Guy: Yes it is

Athiest: No its not

(and repeat).

Atheists in Cambodia Russia and China killed people because they held a different view to that of the atheists.
People died because atheist communists wanted to outreach their gospel of humanism and control peoples lives.
Atheist communists wanted domination over everyone and control.
They killed millions to further establish their belief that god/gods dont exist.
Atheists still evangelise their beliefs just like every other religion, still to this day they do it. They can and will use guns to further their faith in science and darwinism.
Its a religion.

Atheist terrorists are as bad as any other religious extremist

reply to post by greentaylor


very dishonest of you to attempt to change the topic , AND put words in my mouth

now we will address the issues you raise later - but please address the topic at hand , the Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association

formed by the govt that people on this thread decry as "atheist terrorists "

the crux of the matter is blisteringly simple - the PRC permitted religion with only one caveat [ namley that they did not swear allegience to the pope ]

thus - any other actions carried out by the PRC were not " atheist terrorism " as claimed - because the alledged " atheist terrorists " allready permitted a religion that demanded belief in god

simples

Originally posted by borntowatch

Originally posted by MrXYZ

Originally posted by CoolerAbdullah786

Originally posted by SpookyVince
reply to post by borntowatch

 

You're mixing it.

Religious terrorism is killing for religious reasons.

The Khmer, Mao or Stalin have not killed because of atheism.

Their reasons were other.

But they were indeed atheists. Clearly their lack of belief in absolute morality and the belief that upon death there is nothing else has completely destroyed their compassion. To them when you die nothing else happens so they don't care about the sanctity of life nor believe that it exists. Atheists also have no absolute purpose for living. They have a very pessimistic view of life in general.

You're not getting it...

While religious belief is the reason religious terrorists kill, the Khmer Rouge didn't kill because they were atheists...they did so because they wanted to preserve their power, and therefore didn't allow ANY other means of mass control.

I'm sure most Khmer Rouge ate mostly rice...but "rice" wasn't the reason they committed those crimes

No No no you are not getting it.
Your assumption is wrong. Pol Pot wanted a atheist state, Pol Pot and his communists had power and wanted to change society.
Power was a minor issue, pol pot was restructuring the country.
Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge killed because they saw no value in human life and intelligence.
Making excuses doesnt work, the history is the evidence
Go research the history.


Atheism is a belief system

If atheism is a belief, "off" is a TV channel

I never recall a group of people that are not capable or want to believe in a non existent being that created them in his likeness and would have them burn for eternity if they weren't constantly acknowledging his existence get upset with other people that do... A cat like Jesus Christ would be someone I could enjoy hanging out and getting loaded with because he was a decent sort of dude that was into doing right by the poor and whipping up on the money changers.... The Christians I see today are doing the opposite... Down here in the Bible belt, the Baptist, Methodist and Church of Christ are very effectively brainwashing a lot of people and waking up a lot of others that can't accept the con, with the ludicrous indoctrination they are pushing.... If not for silly religious beliefs no one would be called atheist because the label wouldn't exist.... In other words atheism is a byproduct of churches.... I have no problem with people that believe except for their need to wipe out those that don't and their obsession with firearms and flags... Even worse is that they believe in Satan... Think about it, if not for Satan preachers in the south would have very little to talk about and find themselves unemployed.