Assad receives last warning to stop moving his WMD: Top generals defect, page 1

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Topic started on 17-7-2012 @ 03:58 AM by johncarter

Source: Debka

Several high-placed generals bolted Bashar Assad’s inner circle Sunday, July 17, including such key figures as two security services chiefs who were operations commanders of the Alawite Shabiha militia plus the former head of Syria’s chemical and biological administration who took six other generals with him. They all fled to Turkey and defected. A fourth senior general from another security service was assassinated in Aleppo. This is reported exclusively by DEBKAfile’s military sources. The loss of the generals orchestrating the pro-Assad paramilitary Shabiha’s savage crackdown on the opposition has seriously weakened Assad’s protective circle of trusties and reduced his military and security options.

Some of the weapons used by the Syrian regime currently

Syrian WMD locations:

Syrian President Bashar Assad will use chemical weapons against opposition forces and may have already deployed them, Nawaf Fares, the first Syrian ambassador to defect, told the BBC on Monday.
Fares, one of the most prominent syrian politician to defect since the uprising against Assad began, insisted that the president's days were numbered but warned he would be prepared "to eradicate the entire Syrian people" to remain in power.

Fares is here seen sworn in by Bashar in 2008:

Current status in Syria seems very much to look like Gaddafis last month in power during the Libyan uprising.
A rised level of Bashars EA (Electronic Army) agents are now flooding twitter and other social networks, desperatly trying to defend the actions of their increasingly desperate President.

"Mustafa Osso, an activist inside Syria, told The Associated Press, It seems there is a new strategy to bring the fighting into the centre of the capital," referring to the rebels who fight under the banner of the Free Syrian Army. "The capital used to be safe. This will trouble the regime."

Example on released FSA images (with a clearly visible FSA patch):

sources:

NTI
Debka files
Strafor
YNET israel
Dagens Nyheter Sweden
Ottawa News Canada
AP

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reply posted on 17-7-2012 @ 04:40 AM by ludwigvonmises003

Your source is debka.Not credible.

A rised level of Bashars EA (Electronic Army) agents are now flooding twitter and other social networks, desperatly trying to defend the actions of their increasingly desperate President.

and your own post some time ago:

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www.abovetopsecret.com...

A govt propagandist you are indeed .

reply posted on 17-7-2012 @ 04:59 AM by NeoVain

reply to post by johncarter

LMAO this is the worst war propaganda i have seen in a long time, they pay you to send this crap to ATS now too? Please understand you are only wasting your and our time, we can see through the charade instantly here(well most of us anyway), and are not as easy to fool like the sheeple you usually manage...

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reply posted on 17-7-2012 @ 05:01 AM by ludwigvonmises003

reply to post by NeoVain

I was suddenly watching a surge in anti-syrian propaganda.That made me suspicious.

reply posted on 17-7-2012 @ 05:04 AM by Agit8dChop

I smell GAS.. in London and Telaviv in the coming weeks.

reply posted on 17-7-2012 @ 05:19 AM by NeoVain

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
I smell GAS.. in London and Telaviv in the coming weeks.

Please switch on brain pls. Assad have no WMD:s, this is the standard scare tactic in order to instill the need for another war in the uninformed easy-to-fool-public AKA sheeple. As soon as you see the WMD tactic, you know the source is a Government propagandist, getting paid to ensure we get the next war rolling ASAP. War is good for business, not least for the bankers...

reply posted on 17-7-2012 @ 05:23 AM by johncarter

reply to post by NeoVain

Assad have no WMD:s

You base this info on what exactly? Your gut intuition? Some secret info only you possess?

Lets say your own credibility can be as easily questioned as my own. Thats life

reply posted on 17-7-2012 @ 05:25 AM by Extralien

Originally posted by johncarter

Sunday, July 17,

Which year was this as today is Tuesday the 17th July ??

Bit odd don't you think.. important info should at least get the date correct..

reply posted on 17-7-2012 @ 05:25 AM by Britguy

They have WMD's that could hit us in 45 minutes!

What? We've already used that one? How about 50 minutes? Think the proles will go for that?

Jeez, talk about using the tried and tested playbook. Oh, I forgot, Syria has all of Saddams WMD's that were smuggled out before we invaded Iraq.

I think I may soil myself I am laughing so much!

Sounds like we are all being fed this crap for a reason, get it in everyones minds for an event used to trigger another war, so they can then say "see, we told you so". Only, we've heard it all before. They need another war though, and quick, before we start hanging the bankers and the politicians that aided their criminal activity.

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reply posted on 17-7-2012 @ 05:28 AM by khimbar

They've got WMD and yellowcake and they throw babies from incubators and feed soldiers Viagra and force them to rape and they blow up babies and won't someone think of the children?!

So we should probably start bombing them then, right?

reply posted on 17-7-2012 @ 06:20 AM by Agent_USA_Supporter

reply to post by johncarter

My goodness your still at it?

and your using Debka as a source?

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reply posted on 17-7-2012 @ 06:50 AM by pheonix358

reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter

More likely he writes the stuff with all the simple to follow maps for Debka and stuff and THEN he gives it to us. He doesn't like to work too hard.

Perhaps you need to think of some new material. May I suggest rayguns, the weapons not the silly old coot, and invisibility armor. Then you van show some nice desert scenes and convince the masses that 1000 cloaked soldiers lurk in plain but invisible sight. Please, something new!

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reply posted on 17-7-2012 @ 07:13 AM by Wrabbit2000

I'm kinda surprised people actually debate whether he has Chemical Weapons or not. His Dad didn't sign the Chem Weapon Ban treaty. They've never had to hide anything and I'm not aware that they've ever really made more than a passing effort. About as serious an effort as Israel and Dimona. They've both admitted about the same amount publicly...

I do NOT think Assad has live Bio weapons. He and his father weren't insane....and thats what it would take. He tried nukes..kinda...and Israel made a smoking hole of the Reactor building construction site years back in the big attack that never happened..so both sides seemed to eventually be happy saying.

Heck.. Syria has had Chems back to the 80's at least tho. Google it... That little Genie did get out there once, as I recall. He's not stupid or crazy though. He could have ended the civil war a dozen different times with a few Chem warheads if he was insane. he's NOT...and calling Chem weapons a justification for war ignores the fact we've had no problem with them for 30 years.

reply posted on 17-7-2012 @ 07:32 AM by mr-lizard

You do realise DEBKA has been a source of lies for a while now?

And if what the other members are saying is true, that you are a government propagandist - then shame on you

reply posted on 17-7-2012 @ 07:38 AM by johncarter

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There are some serious trolls here that keep pestering posters of good content just of mere spite. One of them consults an astrologer to determine the accuracy of his own imagined future another one seems to attack anyone just due to mere boredom. It is hard to find good readers amongst immature kids in their late teens. My posts are mainly directed to the old timers here. Mature and observant enough to read, think and judge for themselves what might be true or not.

reply posted on 17-7-2012 @ 07:40 AM by johncarter

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Good observation Extralien. Sharp eyes! My mistake. Guess I will have to avoid Debka in the future and use my other sources.

reply posted on 17-7-2012 @ 07:49 AM by Agent_USA_Supporter

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Guess I will have to avoid Debka in the future and use my other sources

Yeah like try to avoid the Westren mainstream sources at least some of them like the AP,CNN.

reply posted on 17-7-2012 @ 08:18 AM by johncarter

reply to post by mr-lizard

Is this one better?

LONDON: Syrian President Bashar al-Assad will use chemical weapons against opposition forces and may have already deployed them, Nawaf Fares, the first Syrian ambassador to defect, told the BBC on Monday. Fares, the most prominent politician to defect since the uprising against Assad began, insisted that the president’s days were numbered but warned he would be prepared “to eradicate the entire Syrian people” to remain in power. When asked by the BBC’s Frank Gardner whether that would mean the use of chemical weapons, Fares said: “I am convinced that if Bashar al-Assad’s regime is further cornered by the people — he would use such weapons.” “There is information, unconfirmed information, that chemical weapons have been used in Homs,” the former ambassador to Iraq added. Syria has a large stock of chemical weapons and neighbouring countries are increasingly concerned about what will happen to them if the regime topples. Fares said this outcome was now “inevitable”.

Source: The Express tribune

reply posted on 17-7-2012 @ 12:33 PM by DarknStormy

reply posted on 17-7-2012 @ 12:40 PM by DarknStormy

reply to post by johncarter

If you like fairytales or sketchy information, go to the Disney website. Why try to influence or confuse people with information which is most likely incorrect or sketchy at least? Most of us know what is likely happening in Syria and I highly doubt Assad would be moving chemical weapons around to eradicate is own country. If anything, he would be moving them to eradicate Israel.

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