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I want to get the meat of the Bible... all of it... Enoch, 3 Earth Ages, Giants and Nephillium, the apostacy of the church, Jesus may have traveled a lot in the east in youth and was influenced, ... stuff like that. most folks in church think that we will just float around on clouds with little chereb wings.... not so.
Anyway... that's me. Not everyone believes... that';s your business..I used to judge, then matured as a Christian... try not to judge any more... try not to do a lot of things that were selfish about me 10-20 years ago... I am still a butt hole at times...now I smile and say I am sorry.
What would you say is a foundational belief for you at this point in your life?
What do you measure every other belief against?
If you get what I'm asking.
Evangelical Pentecostal Christian
I am a Christian still... but I am not an organized religion member... most churches have lost their fire... have no truthful guidance... deny the existance of demons, gifts of the spirit, the coming apocolypse, and really avoid any topic...either Biblical or contemporary... that is out of the comfort zone.
they just want to hear the same old comfy luvy, duvy sermons every Sunday... no stepping on their toes... I want to be challenged. I want to have to learn new things... and I want to get the meat of the Bible... all of it... Enoch, 3 Earth Ages, Giants and Nephillium, the apostacy of the church, Jesus may have traveled a lot in the east in youth and was influenced, ... stuff like that. most folks in church think that we will just float around on clouds with little chereb wings.... not so.
Originally posted by Klassified
reply to post by skepticconwatcher
Evangelical Pentecostal Christian
Indeed. And I thought I was in the hardcore stuff. You must be one tough cookie. Have you cut your hair since leaving? Play any cards? I guess my real question is have you relaxed some since you've been away from that?
If you don't want to answer, no problem. Thanks for sharing what you did.
I left the established faith a long time ago (I will not share why) and I even tried other denominations, and found them to be either lacking in some areas or obsessive and zealous in other areas. I found others to be more of what I would call, the religious arm of the United States Republican Party. They don't preach Christ. They preach politics. So, now I guess I just consider myself a Christian who's very spiritual. Now, I focus on just the teachings of Jesus Christ and use the rest as encouragement.
Explain to me the justifications of "unconditional love" becoming so conditional, so quickly. It's a little bit of a turn-off, worshipping a god that judges so harshly, so quickly, when he's the one who supposedly made us this way, just so we have to fight our entire lives to resist the nature he bestowed us with. The mere act of creating hell says that he's ready on a hair-trigger to condemn us for all of eternity. Yet his love is so unconditional?
Explain this to me, please.
Originally posted by Verity27
I have been noticing a common trend among non-believers. The trend is not specific to any one group of non-believers. Some are angry, some have never believed, some have believed and now do not but feel like they have figured it all out. Now, lets get to this trend I speak of...it seems that so many of these people are jaded because they feel like God should be what they want Him to be. That is a big problem. This problem stems from humans having difficulty being servants. They want to be their own Gods. They want God to be one who accepts them regardless of their lifestyles, but is there to answer at their beckon call when they meet some kind of adversity. This is not the way it is. People need to put aside their arrogance. God is watching, waiting for you to reach out to Him. We don't get to make up the rules. The rules are His. You don't have to be perfect, you just have to try. You have to have faith in Him. We don't get to question God's will, we just have to accept it.
I'll get off my soapbox now...flame away.