Firefighters Ordered to Remove American Flags From Their Trucks

Originally posted by milkyway12
I wonder what kind of Moron said the flags were being displayed wrong. If you are an American , by damn display your flag any way you want too. You want wear your flag ? Go ahead. You want to paint it as your tail gate or roof? Go ahead. You want to stick one in your vehicle window? Go ahead. You want to wear it as a cape? Go ahead.

I dont know who this moron is , but if an American wants to show pride in their nation , by damn go ahead. Even if you look stupid.

Unfortunately, I do not agree with you...there is a Flag code for a reason, so that she is respected properly and across the board.

Though while I want to agree with you, I just can't based on that fact.

Originally posted by phantomjack

Originally posted by CrimsonKapital

Originally posted by Common Good
reply to post by CrimsonKapital

 

Yup- Cause Americans are the only ones who kill people right?

You are as ignorant as they come.

I am not going to waste my time with you- you dont want to debate- you just want to talk #.

Sorry- find someone else for that.

Did I say that Americans were the only country to commit atrocities? No, your just putting words in my mouth.

BUT America has committed some of the most abhorrent atrocities in the last century, most notably the atomic attacks on Japan which killed over 200,000 civilians.

Yet you call me ignorant?

Yes, and if you were a history scholar, which you are obviously not, those 200K people died to save MILLIONS more that WOULD have died if America didn't step in and do the necessary.

MILLIONS SAVED for 200K. An unfortunate but necessary sacrifice.

thats how they justify Nuclear Bombs so they can sleep at night.

"We are going to kill 200k of your citizen whose life worth less than an Americans so we can instill fear in your country as well as show off to other countries our immense power, so we can save American lives"

I guess we should roll with that kinda of tactics,

Nuke a country, say we heard news they are about to attack us with a nuclear weapon Pre-emptive nuke...JUSTIFIED!

Originally posted by Kryties
Mines this big......



....I swear.......

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Ok, that was so off topic but freaking hillarious.

Thanks for the laugh.

I wonder how many men compared theirs just then to yours?

Originally posted by Evolutionsend
reply to post by phantomjack

 

I'm not sure why anyone would be in America if they were anti-american to the point of disliking the flag?

Wouldn't it be easier to blindfold these weirdos, or just pull their towel down over their head and tell them to stfu?

Siberia is always a good bet. I hear it's nice there.......well I'm sure it's nice at some point of the year!

I have a better idea! Why don't we rap an American flag around their head, and light it on fire! We'll appease their anti-american sentiment and give them something to complain about all at the same time.

I'm amazed that thse monkeys are allowed to stay. I've been told to get out of the country by right wingers for not agreeing with them on pollitics. How do these guys stack up?

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I used to say, "Give them North Dakota..."

But now that North Dakota has the lowest unemployment rate and huge resources of oil and gas, I now say, "Give them California..."

LOL

Originally posted by luciddream

Originally posted by phantomjack

Originally posted by CrimsonKapital

Originally posted by Common Good
reply to post by CrimsonKapital

 

Yup- Cause Americans are the only ones who kill people right?

You are as ignorant as they come.

I am not going to waste my time with you- you dont want to debate- you just want to talk #.

Sorry- find someone else for that.

Did I say that Americans were the only country to commit atrocities? No, your just putting words in my mouth.

BUT America has committed some of the most abhorrent atrocities in the last century, most notably the atomic attacks on Japan which killed over 200,000 civilians.

Yet you call me ignorant?

Yes, and if you were a history scholar, which you are obviously not, those 200K people died to save MILLIONS more that WOULD have died if America didn't step in and do the necessary.

MILLIONS SAVED for 200K. An unfortunate but necessary sacrifice.

thats how they justify Nuclear Bombs so they can sleep at night.

"We are going to kill 200k of your citizen whose life worth less than an Americans so we can instill fear in your country as well as show off to other countries our immense power, so we can save American lives"

I guess we should roll with that kinda of tactics,

Nuke a country, say we heard news they are about to attack us with a nuclear weapon

Pre-emptive nuke...JUSTIFIED!

Look, you are right. I am not saying that it was right, but it is a reality. That action saved millions of lives that would have been lost if the war continued.

Shame on us.

But, at the same time, WAR IS HELL...and the objective of war is to WIN, and win as quickly as possible.

At least, that is what I was raised to believe...now a days, the objective of war is apparently perverted to the point that nobody wants to win -- they just want to churn money.

That, my friend, I agree with you on.

Originally posted by phantomjack

Flags have been fought for since the beginning of civilizations.

That's simply not true. National flags, like nationalism itself, are a recent invention.

From the wiki:

Historically, flags originate as military standards, used as field signs. The practice of flying flags indicating the country of origin outside of the context of warfare emerges with the maritime flag, introduced during the age of sail, in the early 17th century. It was only with the emergence of nationalist sentiment from the late 18th century that the desire was felt to display national flags also in civilian contexts,[1] notably the US flag, in origin adopted as a naval ensign in 1777, which after the American Revolution[year needed] began to be displayed as a generic symbol of the United States, and the French Tricolore which became a symbol of the Republic in the 1790s. The British Union Flag was designed as a naval ensign in the 17th century, but it was not identified as "national flag" of the United Kingdom prior to 1908.[2]

Most countries of Europe adopted a national flag in the course of the 19th and early 20th centuries

reply to post by phantomjack

The City is being "Sensitive" to those who have anti-American feelings.

...on American soil, using American property, protecting the American people, according to the American constitution.

Okay, I call bulls**t. Who's running our country, the people who support it or the people who want it dead? I understand disapproving of certain programs, but WTF?!?!

Ouch. I have a little USA oval on my German car. After Sept 11th, many foreign race car drivers displayed an American flag on their cars out of sympathy, or maybe out of patriotism to their own country which embraces the same values.

My idea of the flag is that you can display it wherever you want. Put it on a high flagpole with a light on it at night and salute everytime you pass, or just as well, you can make a sweater out of it. It's free speech, and it trumps other parties' right to "not be offended".

Did anyone sent this to a MSM outlet yet?

Originally posted by phantomjack
Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by phantomjack

 

Have a Fire? Call Castro. Maybe he can help!

What? Put out fires with the Cuban flag?

Putting out fires has little to do with being American. You want to fly a bit of colored cloth that proves your loyalty to an ideal? Fine.

I don't care about that any more than I care what kind of meat you barbecue or beer you drink. You have every right to do that in your yard.

My idea of America says that you have to respect my right to not worship a bit of colored cloth.

Who originally invented the idea of a flag anyway?

No, it has nothing to do with being American. The point was sarcasm.

Duh. I don't care what color flag the truck is flying when they show up to put out my burning house either.

But why are you trying to mix Patriotism with Religion?

Whats the difference. One is "church of state", the other an excuse to be selfish.

They are two completely different things.

No they aren't. Each belief system has its icon. The flag or the cross?

I certainly do NOT worship the flag. I RESPECT the flag and what it stands for.

Well I certainly RESPECT that. But really? People don't worship the cross either. Just what it stands for... Onward Christian soldiers, marching as to war?

reply to post by phantomjack


I spent four years in the Army defending the United States, married a military retiree - 22 years of service, and my son has been deployed three times preparing for his 4th deployment. The United States FLAG is more than a symbol, and it is NOT shoved into peoples faces. That FLAG is one of the reasons we people can access sites like this one.

Phantomjack you do seem to understand.

They are doing it all the time in the UK take the st Georges cross down bla bla bla! no piss off tell me what I can do in my country!

its getting worse!!! im going to go nuts soon it carry s on!!!!

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Probably either the DHS with Arse Napolitano, i mean janet Napolitano, or socialist Obama ordered the chief to do this.

This is really getting ridiculous... what are they going to do next time? Change the name of the United States as well to "show a sign of friendship to those that hate us"?...

Why the F aren't the Occupy demandig to get rid of Obama, and his entire administration?... Oh wait, they work for him, i forgot...

And the rest of Americans, that must number at least in the 200 and something million?... WTF are you all doing? watching football with a pack of beer beside you and not worrying about the U.S. downfall because of the socialsts in power?...

Originally posted by article
reply to post by Yetichi

 

My responce as well as the responces of many, even 5 pages later, still apply. It goes beyond "the proper display". Actually read the posts and responces as the responders have, and perhaps you too will see more than just the "proper display". I think for the most part, people arent even looking at that as the issue.

So I drape the flag across my side window of my car, a cop pulls me over and I throw a fit at the "unpatriotic" officer who asked me to remove the flag because it posted a hazard by obstructing my view?..

mmkay.. I forgot this is "Merica! "

The flags were removed for safety reasons, nothing more. Now continue your pointless ranting in the hopes that you can pull in another twenty or so people who were uninformed as to the actual situation in the hopes you can whip them into a false rage as well..

I'm getting to be pretty offended by all these people saying that they are offended. Can we have all of them removed please?

To ALL the anti flag people. Just come and try to take my flag from my yard or my vehicle. You wont make it to the end of the driveway before you have a horrific "accident".

reply to post by Wrabbit2000

Bull Crunchies! I have been a Volunteer Fire Fighter for 39 years , Thank God our town does not have that point of view. Our dept, one of three in town, have 3 stations, 13 pieces of apparatus and they all have a flag flying on the trucks.

Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke

Originally posted by phantomjack

Flags have been fought for since the beginning of civilizations.

That's simply not true. National flags, like nationalism itself, are a recent invention.

From the wiki:

Historically, flags originate as military standards, used as field signs. The practice of flying flags indicating the country of origin outside of the context of warfare emerges with the maritime flag, introduced during the age of sail, in the early 17th century. It was only with the emergence of nationalist sentiment from the late 18th century that the desire was felt to display national flags also in civilian contexts,[1] notably the US flag, in origin adopted as a naval ensign in 1777, which after the American Revolution[year needed] began to be displayed as a generic symbol of the United States, and the French Tricolore which became a symbol of the Republic in the 1790s. The British Union Flag was designed as a naval ensign in the 17th century, but it was not identified as "national flag" of the United Kingdom prior to 1908.[2]

Most countries of Europe adopted a national flag in the course of the 19th and early 20th centuries

That is absolutely not true. Whoever wrote that wiki is completely wrong.

Armies going back to the greeks and romans, and even as far back as Ancient Egypt and the Vikings flew their country's colors in ALL battles.

Originally posted by normajean
reply to post by phantomjack

 

I spent four years in the Army defending the United States, married a military retiree - 22 years of service, and my son has been deployed three times preparing for his 4th deployment. The United States FLAG is more than a symbol, and it is NOT shoved into peoples faces. That FLAG is one of the reasons we people can access sites like this one.

Phantomjack you do seem to understand.

I do, and I thank you for your service and continued sacrifices.

Originally posted by phantomjack

Originally posted by CrimsonKapital

Originally posted by Common Good

Originally posted by CrimsonKapital

Originally posted by Common Good
To the anti- americans that are in America.


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I would have told them to kiss my arse if I was the Chief.

"Come try and take it down yourself".

"SEE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT"

Why should anyone cares what people with anti american beliefs in America think?

This sounds like some Liberal BS

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Where are they going to leave to?

Any other country they might go to is at risk of being invaded by America and her Imperialist war mongering

*Sigh*
Another American blinded by patriotism for the "land of the free".

Do you even know how many people (innocent) have been killed by America in the past century? And yet your answer to me is "Go to bed kid your acting childish". WOW what a hypocrite.

I actually care for human life unlike you, and all you can come back with is a childish remark.

How sad,

CK

No, please quote the numbers...then cite where your numbers come from.

Since America has been fighting communism for what, 100 years now, and communism is directly responsible for the deaths of what, 100 Million, do you REALLY think that America has killed more than Communism has?

I wonder what would happen to the rest of the world if America took its toys and went home? How much money does America give Australia? What would you do without AMERICAN companies like Microsoft?

You can sit back and preach from your keyboard, just as I can. The difference is, I KNOW what America has brought to the table, and I know that WAR IS HELL. But if it were not for America, and its "thug" army, you, my Australian friend, would be speaking GERMAN right now if it were not for the might of the USA.
Take it or leave it.

You folks who are anti-american, and believe this crap about our war machine do not realize just how different the world would be today if it were not for the USA. Sorry, fact -- The USA is the world leader for a reason, and in this case, the end justifies the means.

Innocent people die in war. And Governments like Iraq cover up and embellish the number of dead to gain sympathy from the world. We did not kill 1 Million in Iraq, as much as you would like to believe.

Since the 1940s, America has been responsible for the deaths of over 10,431,000 million people, that doesn't even include POWs, the descendents of radiation posioning, or ww2 pre-nuke!!!

Like I said earlier America isn't the only country to have committed atrocities, but I laugh at the concept that America is the leader of the free world, it is far from free and has killed more people then helped.

America doesn't give Australia any money, never has and never will (it has no money anyway with its debt problems), in fact its the other way around Australia has been having to pay over 1.6 billion Australian dollars (worth more than US dollar) to pay for your wars in Afghanistan and Iraq PER YEAR!!!
Not only that but we had to pay for your wars in Vietnam and stretching all the way back to WW2.
Australia doesn't ask for anything, you kill our troops, take our money, and what do we get in return? Nothing.

Because America has nothing, even if we asked for weapons they would refuse us, they would rather give them to Israel who is genociding the Palestinian peoples, therefore America is genociding the Palestinian peoples.

Australia would be speaking German right now? Really?
Tell me if I'm wrong but I thought Germany was a small country in Europe on the other side of the world from Australia. Even if Germany managed to defeat Europe they had ZERO way of getting an army here, technology was not like it is today.
I think you are referring to the Japanese, but even then America refused to help us. It was actually the Australians who inflicted the first defeat on the Japanese army at Milne Bay, then Aussie diggers numbered at just 1500 defeated an army of 30,000 Japanese invading force. WE AUSSIES defeated the Japanese in the Battle for Australia, America played such a small part that historians often don't even include them.

The reason why the US i world number one, is because you bomb, destroy, invade, and threaten any other country that becomes too powerful. Even my country of Australia was branded an enemy of America during the Cold war? Nice way to treat your allies, huh>?
And I wouldn't piss off Aussies if I were you, since you don't have too many friends left these days.

I am well aware you didn't kill 1 million people in Iraq, the figure was actually 660,000 thousand innocent people, not including the children who have died from radiation...

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That is so lame to make them take the flag off, what they should do is turn the flag upside down instead. We are in such a bad place right now, people would understand why the flag would be upside down and understand what that would mean for a country. For those who do not know what a flag means upside down, it means distress people have been doing that to the United States flag latly. People do it to also use to protest against the government, but it still has the same meaning Distress.