reply to post by OrchusGhule
Wow, way to inject a bunch of b***s**t into my post. You obviously missed the point, which is not surprising considering your offended,
Yep, t'was certainly a great spewing of b***s**t, by me, into your post. Perhaps I did indeed miss the point, which I agree would not be surprising
in the slightest. You indicate my tone as being the reason you failed to raise a single eyebrow, I would probably just point to a large stack of
similar incidents involving blatant point-missing in my past; which not only justifies your lack of surprise, it demonstrates such incidents occur
with enough regularity to preclude even the slightest bit of surprise at the initial lack of surprise.
That being said...I went and read through my earlier post just now and yeah, I was snappish(too much caffeine, too little sleep), which is unnecessary
and unproductive, and I normally try to avoid coming off like that.
I don't always succeed, this is one of those times. My apologies.
Nice wall of talking points though.
Thanks! I think. They are not really 'talking points' in the way that term is used in modern political discourse, i.e. partisan think-tank generates
poll-tested phrases which are then distributed by media for various reasons(argumentum as nauseam, proof by assertion, facilitating a homogenous
response to a given argument, etc.) For one thing, they are my own arguments, and I am no think-tank(as I'm sure you'll agree).
However, if you meant 'talking points' in the same way the phrase is used and defined in formal debate: "a clear statement designed to persuasively
support a position taken in an issue" ...then yes, they are talking points, and it was a rather nice wall of them wasn't it, thank you again for
You assume very much about me, when you know absolutely nothing. You might be surprised to find out that this computer is 1 of only 3
electronic devices I own, and that it runs on power generated from the sun, collected from a 10 year old solar array. I do not own a car, I grow
almost all of my own food, and I could go on but it would probably be wasted on you. I've not burned fossil fuels in over a decade. You're barking
up the wrong tree kid.
The things you say in the middle of this paragraph are very interesting, and I will get back to that momentarily, after a brief response to the things
said at the top and bottom.
I'm sure I did form some assumptions about you, and no doubt some of them were unwarranted and entirely false--for instance, I had the idea you were
my age or younger. This was not an overt idea; and indeed I was totally unaware of it until I read the last sentence of the above paragraph where you
call me "kid."
Since I switched to my current avatar, I have on occasion been referred to as 'kid' or 'young man', and while I have sometimes been intrigued as
to their possible motives for doing so, I was never much bothered otherwise. Same this time except it seemed incongruous somehow, and I had to sort of
take the whole idea out and look at it before I could figure out it that it seemed odd because I had this hazy, never consciously considered idea that
you were younger, specifically the range of my younger brother's friends. Considered further, it seemed that the likely reason for this unconscious
assumption is that all of the seriously involved, seriously fervent, "save the x, stop the y" environmentalists that I know personally are, for
whatever reason, in that age group.
So yeah, that was interesting and enlightening.
But even so....you say I "assumed very much about you?" My sole overt assumption, which I clearly stated in my post, was that you had been spending
way too much time reading environmentalist doomporn. But I'm getting the idea you might have taken everything else I wrote as though they were
specific statements about you? If so, that is not the case and was not the intention. The intention, especially the parts about the car(which was a
story about my cousin, and I know for certain I did not assume you were my cousin) and the bit about nature at the end, was about putting things in
I hate environmentalist for the exact reasons you mention. They bitch and moan about destroying the planet and then go jump in their electric
cars. But again you assumed I was one of those, didn't you?
Hahaha. This is awesome. But to answer the question at the end: Yes, I did, sans electric car. Can you blame me? Because if your first post was not
one huge bitchmoan about destruction of the planet, then I don't know what is.
I have more to say but am out of characters and this is probably OT for this thread anyway. Drop me a PM, I've been moving the family home off-grid
in steps and am interested in talking about that too.