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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 05:28 PM
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Maybe finding out his name, you could try to track him down, Facebook or whatever, then find out his "associates" & see if he's really telling the truth about where he got his info from?

Date & time, I should have edited coz OP mentions about three weeks ago.

I just like to see how relative these things are.

Just questions that come to my head, & the contribution I'm making to this thread, unlike you.





posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 05:33 PM
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Good story, thanks. So, all we have to do now is to wait for the event on 11 of August.
Not long ago, somebody told me that some serious security alert would happen around 4-5 of August (the person did not seem to be joking). I will believe it when I would read it in the news! I hope everything will be fine.
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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 05:35 PM
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Ok, I'm going to just write one reply to all those that have replied so far, then I must be off to bed as I have to be up again at 6:30 am. I will reply more tomorrow during the day:

@faryjay: haha! The guy did not place the bet in the end as we could not have offered him the same price as one of my competitors. My trading team did also not want to offer him a price on a specific date and location. Also as I do not directly own the betting shop, the profits would not be coming directly to me anyway! Cheers

@smokeyhaze: first of all, thanks for your concern. As mentioned, I take everything with a pinch of salt and do not believe everything I read in the MSM or on ATS. I always look at things from all sorts of different angles and try to get to the facts. A few examples for you; I have researched 9/11 for about 6 years and after all that time, I still cannot believe either side as there's evidence to suggest either story could be plausible. Another example is that I absolutely do not believe in god and I am a firm believer of the big bang, the standard model and evolution. However, as we cannot completely prove the above mentioned as of yet and we cannot completely deny the existence of a higher being, I am open to the idea that a supreme being may exist in some form or another.

I understand there are huge holes in project blue beam and in fact it's one of the more radical theories out there. I think we need to look at if the tehchnology may be available to TPTB and would it be sufficient to fool the masses? This is something I cannot answer.

The odds on a specific date and time would be anything but slim. The odds that most big firms were/are offering on aliens being discovered anytime in 2012 is 50/1. This means for every pound that you place in this bet, you will get £51 returned to you (£50 profit). Someone told me this is, in most cases half of what they were offering the for last year. You may find that interesting, although I cannot confirm if this is true or not. £300, would return £15,300. Do this to 20 shops around London and you would be looking at £306,000. That's quite a chunk of change. To then be able to guess the specific date and location, you're probably looking at odds closer to 5000/1 or higher. £5000 x £300= £1,500,000. Do that to 20 shops, your looking at £30,000,000.

I did not get the mans name and I do not remember exactly when he came to my shop. It was around 3 months ago. He was casually dressed (but looked smart) and did not act suspiciously at all. Cool as a cucumber in fact and asked me for the bet like it was an every day event.

To answer your last question. I can honestly say that I do not believe he is connected or involved in any secret government agency or believe that he is correct. However, there is no way to deny it as of yet, so until August 11th, my interest will continue to be sparked.

@violet: that's interesting about the meteor shower on the same day. I had no idea. To be honest, if they were to achieve this, they would need to do it during the day when London and the stadiums are packed with Olympic tourists. That would be my opinion anyway.

@ranong: haha! No I didn't! If I get a solid horse tip I always place a bet. An Alien tip is far from solid and I do not fancy wasting my money on something that I personally believe will probably not happen! :p

@jplaysguitar: yup, that's true! The one thing that will always stick with me that is the sentence in the report made by top us gov officials a year before 9/11 that said something along the lines of "we need another catosrophic event such as pearl harbour to get the backing of the American people to go to war". I know it was not exactly those words, but to me thats what it looks like it was supposed to say.

@just chris: again, a possibility, but I do not see the point of him doing it just to spook me. Another possibility is that he is completely insane! Haha! You can never tell these days. Most of our top bankers are probably coke heads and "functional junkies" and we would never know!

@niceguybob: it is potential information if it comes true! :p but yeah, I know what you mean. I will change the title in the morning. I would have taken the bet on my own but there would be a nagging in my head that would be saying " omg what if this comes true and end up £50,000 out of pocket!" That would not be good!



@idonthaveabeard: no worries mate, I often skim pages too and do not get the full information.

@cthulhumythos: that's exactly right. When the big spenders (sometimes other independent bookies) want to hedge out their bet and get rid of a chunk of liability, they may send people or "runners" out, each with a share of the money that needs to be hedged out. They're told to target different areas each time and spread the money across as many different shops as possible so they do not raise attention or start getting 'restricted'. Sometimes they even act like its their first bet.
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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 05:37 PM
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Quote: ''...Maybe finding out his name, you could try to track him down, Facebook or whatever, then find out his "associates" & see if he's really telling the truth about where he got his info from? ...''
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Good idea!! Then everybody could start a witch hunt on that guy! Eh? And then, after being tracked down the poor soul, who's the only fault might be - living in the fantasy world, will commit suicide. Scenario is gloomy, but pretty much real. Internet is very powerful thing. Think about it, contributor SmoKeyHaZe.
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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 05:41 PM
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I'll wait around a month to see what happens.
Last alien invasion next month thread we had around here never produced anything, other than laughs.

Regardless this story, factual or no, I'm fairly certain we won't be seeing anything, real, or imitation unless part of the celebrations call for some elaborate costumed characters (actors) posing as aliens as a spoof on on the Olympic Spirit welcoming all competitors, even from out of this world.

No. no real or convincingly real aliens are going to be seen toward whatever imagined paranoid agenda people have on their favorites list for doom porn.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 05:46 PM
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@maya27: thanks. As mentioned in my last post, the amount would be ridiculous and you would probably be looking at anywhere between a few hundred thousand, to over a million. The max we can pay out on any bet is £1 mill anyway, so that would be the max he could have returned.

I personally do not believe in psychics, but the world surprises us all the time, so who knows!


@voidhawk: haha! Damn you discovered my devious plans! Get people wasting their money in my shop and make me a nice bonus next year! Mwahahahahah! :p Seriously though, I have not disclosed the exact location or name of my betting shop, so that is certainly not the case. There are probably around 2000 betting shops in London, so...I'm one of those! :p

@takethat: really? On the same date and location. what a coincidence......good luck...I guess? :p

@argyll: I appreciate your response and as mentioned, I don't really believe it will happen either. I just want to make it clear though, My "story" is factual and not fiction. This did really happen to me but I'm level headed enough to know that this is probably just some wacko telling complete bulls**t. It's still interesting and something to keep an eye on though.

Thanks guys, I'm off to bed! Will reply to others tomorrow.

Cheers



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 06:04 PM
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I gave your thread a mention on mine here mate: www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 06:18 PM
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Interesting for a few reasons. I wonder why you would even consider being offered the punters name, yet you say you never managed to get it. Do you normally ask someone who is placing a bet what their name is?. In January this year I also attempted to place a bet on Aliens being confirmed as real this year. I tried many bookmakers without any luck, as they wouldnt touch it at any price.

Now, this is the point that makes me think your well written story, is just that, a well written story. Anyone who has inside information that can be used to take money from any bookie would never, ever, say they have or give a nod or wink , to having inside information. Why? because bookies dont cover bets like that. If the story and punter was real he would have had a reply to any questions about why he was placing such a bet...Namely, something along the lines off "Well it has to happen sometime"?.

You dont say why your phone contacts refused you permission to take the bet...can you give us that info?

Respects



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 06:26 PM
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This OP get's a gold star for reading the ATS rulebook.

At least he addressed his own thread.

Unlike SOME of us that opened a thread and abandoned it.


(guilty)



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 06:33 PM
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I'm just living in hope that these aliens are real and taste like chicken..

No seriously.
It's either happening because the Olympics will be covered by realtime global news coverage,

or

it's 2012 - the Mayan I-Ching prophecies

or

it's a big Cocacola advert.

or aliens.



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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 06:37 PM
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Had to reply to this before I sleep as I do not want people thinking this is just a made up story: this is just one major uk bookmaker that offers such 'novelty bets':

www.paddypower.com...

Check it out, although the prices are pretty low and a lot lower than they were a few months ago from what I remember! They also have a market for 'the first country to make contact'

The biggest uk bookmaker, william hills were offering 50/1 a few months ago, although I cannot seem to find the bet on their site anymore. If you rang up and asked for a quote, they would give you one.

I assure you, I have no need to lie and if I were to lie, I would probably make it a lot more interesting than it actually is.

To answer your other questions, it depends on the type of customer. Most of my regular customers I know on first name basis. I did not ask this customer for his name and I would not ask a customer until I have seen them a few times and I can see that they are friendly and chatty. It's just good customer service. So I don't know where you got the opinion that I did ask him, I was just replying to another members comments...in which I clearly said I did not ask.

My trading team would not quote me a price as we are a much smaller independent company with only 2 shops. The trader in the office basically said that he would not even know where to start on compiling these odds. Think about it, how could you put a fair price on that without shooting yourself in the foot if it actually happens? :p it's just not the type or bet we normally take.

Cheers
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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 06:38 PM
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Well,

I'm going to place £50 on it happening too.

We don't get enough betting insider information on ATS

Thanks for the tip!



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 06:43 PM
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It's kind of weird that there are so many stories floating around about a possible alien false flag. There are also three important men who warned of a possible alien invasion/false flag: Werner von Braun (a former Nazi scientist who came to America and helped develop NASA) warned us of an alien false flag after much strife in other countries. Paul Krugman, Professor of Economics and International Affairs in the United States claimed an alien false flag would end the economic slump. And now we have Nick Pope, former Ministry of Defense for the British government telling us to look to the skies for a possible alien contact during the Olympics.

If you want links to these articles I can certainly post them for you.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 06:53 PM
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does your bookies have CCTV? you might have the chap on film. might be worth keeping a snap of him for reference? interesting story anyway



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 10:15 PM
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Well, I'm a sucker, but I believe you. The guy....not totally sure. So many different things could have been going on. Highly doubt this will happen, YET, a part of me always hopes these will come true.



Saved this for a reminder to watch tv on August 11th.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 11:41 PM
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Well now that you've posted this on such a popular conspiracy forum it's highly unlikely they will actually go through with this false flag event on that date since we'll all be able to point back to this thread as 100% solid proof some one knew it was going to happen. Even if this prediction was true it isn't any more.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 11:44 PM
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Was it Von Braun that was quoted more than a few times as stating the alien threat as the final card toward the one world government agenda? The whole Mideast war on terror and al ciada is winding down now, with the death of OBL (yeah right). It may be the proper time to play the "final card."


The Olympics would be the perfect place to do it. TPTB are needing this event possibly to take the heat off of them, as people are waking up. It may be used to disrupt the election as well. The whole 2012 end of times theme could be used to take peoples "eyes off the ball." Time will tell I guess.
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posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by Bpm1986
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Had to reply to this before I sleep as I do not want people thinking this is just a made up story: this is just one major uk bookmaker that offers such 'novelty bets':

www.paddypower.com...


Only 16/1 for this year? That seems pretty low for a bet like this lol and Sweden the favourite to be the first to announce being in contact.
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posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 12:06 AM
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Why can't they just make themselves known at the opening ceremony and not the ending that way they can compete
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posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 12:34 AM
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Technically an alien is sometimes defined as a foreign human. Could have been trying to trick the system and claim that technically aliens did make themselves known on this date and time and place as a foreign national addresses the olympic crowd? Just a thought, some people are mad about technicalities like that and try and exploit the fact that most people don't give a second thought. I the bet said 'alien' rather than extra terrestrial then he may have been trying it on.

Also plenty of intelligent people can also have mental problems as well. Believe it or not every person with serious mental problems isn't a stereotypical raving lunatic or unshaven, scruffy drunk.





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