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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 12:02 PM
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I had a vision not to long ago, and in the vision was an Arch Angel standing in an old ancient church building, swinging a ball and chain , smashing the ball into the wall,

The Lord was standing next to me, So i asked, ? is that Satan,

The Lord said no,

I said is it Micheal ,

The Lord said no its Gabriel.

He was told to stop, Gabriel replied, i can not stop, then he walked out of this church type building , wings and all,

down the steps , where he picked up a retangle cube of wood , about knee high, and he hit it with the ball on the end of the chain, then walked of after it, to strike it again,

I asked Lord what does this mean, the Lord replied , my church cannot STOP doing the same things over and over again.

people cannot stop doing the same wrong things over and over again.




posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 12:11 PM
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Maybe it simply means the church can't stop trying to be God. The knowledge of good and evil simply means putting your personal convictions ahead of love. The only laws that God likes are the ones that protect his people. All His people. You have a right to be yourself regardless of gender, skin color or religious affiliation.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 12:14 PM
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The Irish have a saying. If you encounter an apparition, look at it's feet. If you can see it's feet, it's not from the devil. If you can't see its feet then it is hiding its hooves.

Not making a joke.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by dwarfflex
I had a vision not to long ago, and in the vision was an Arch Angel standing in an old ancient church building, swinging a ball and chain , smashing the ball into the wall,

The Lord was standing next to me, So i asked, ? is that Satan,

The Lord said no,

I said is it Micheal ,

The Lord said no its Gabriel.

He was told to stop, Gabriel replied, i can not stop, then he walked out of this church type building , wings and all,

down the steps , where he picked up a retangle cube of wood , about knee high, and he hit it with the ball on the end of the chain, then walked of after it, to strike it again,

I asked Lord what does this mean, the Lord replied , my church cannot STOP doing the same things over and over again.

people cannot stop doing the same wrong things over and over again.


if it was Satan and you asked him who he was, would he be truthful? he would lie to you and say he was archangel Gabriel. Remember he was an archangel so it would be easy to take on that form and portray himself as such.

"The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world he didn't exist"-keyser sosa



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 12:38 PM
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Satan isnt an archangel for one thing, he used to be a cherub. And if the church (ekklesia) could do everything right we wouldn't need the NT epistles to exhort us in the ways of righteousness. Not to be alarmed, Christ rebukes those whom He loves. Turn your ears to the Spirit who was given to lead, correct, and comfort the children of God.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 12:41 PM
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He wasn't an archangel, he was of the higher class of cherub. A formerly anointed cherub. That's why two cherubim were stationed to guard the way to the tree of life... to keep another cherub out of it.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 12:44 PM
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im just going on my religions background(it seems as if we have two differnt backrounds) as a kid i was told he was a fallen archangel , i may be wrong i don't go or associate with the church anymore my memory is a bit fuzzy on some topics., but even if he is a cherubim or whatever he can still change forms and portray himself as something other than he is to deceive.
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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by DocHolidaze
reply to post by NOTurTypical
 


im just going on my religions background(it seems as if we have two differnt backrounds) as a kid i was told he was a fallen archangel , i may be wrong i don't go or associate with the church anymore my memory is a bit fuzzy on some topics., but even if he is a cherubim or whatever he can still change forms and portray himself as something other than he is to deceive.
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The only classification of above is arcs and elders for higher ups. Satan was previously an arc. They do not even use the word angel, this is of mans terms. Just like the other terms NOTUrTypical stated is of mans terms trying to classify what above is.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by DocHolidaze
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im just going on my religions background as a kid i was told he was a fallen archangel , i may be wrong i don't go or associate with the church anymore, but even if he is a cherub or whatever he can still change forms and portray himself as something other than he is to deceive.


Well, newsflash, religion screws up a lot of stuff. The Bible says he was a formerly anointed cherub. They are quite a bit more powerful than archs. Only two archs are mentioned in scripture, Michael who protects Israel and Gabriel who proceeds before the Messiah or makes proclamations on behalf of the Messiah. No worries, not attacking you just correcting a minor error for the sake of precision.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by jhill76

Originally posted by DocHolidaze
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im just going on my religions background(it seems as if we have two differnt backrounds) as a kid i was told he was a fallen archangel , i may be wrong i don't go or associate with the church anymore my memory is a bit fuzzy on some topics., but even if he is a cherubim or whatever he can still change forms and portray himself as something other than he is to deceive.
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The only classification of above is arcs and elders for higher ups. Satan was previously an arc. They do not even use the word angel, this is of mans terms. Just like the other terms NOTUrTypical stated is of mans terms trying to classify what above is.


That's not Biblical. It says he was a formerly anointed cherub. I'm not claiming anything other than what the Word of God has already declared.

Ezekiel 28:14


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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 12:52 PM
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My question would be: If the Lord is trying to show you something that man is doing wrong, why would he use Gabriel to do this? It was like Gabriel is doing something wrong, that represented mans wrong doing.

Gabriel tasks is to oversee the watchers and oversee innovation for man. It just doesn't fit his profile, so to speak.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 12:55 PM
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That's not Biblical. It says he was a formerly anointed cherub. I'm not claiming anything other than what the Word of God has already declared.


I see, again, while above, they only use arcs and elders, not the other classifications that you have stated, this is of mans words trying to describe what is above. Father did not state this in his Word, another man had written this about above in scripture, from what was given.

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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by jhill76
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That's not Biblical. It says he was a formerly anointed cherub. I'm not claiming anything other than what the Word of God has already declared.


I see, again, while above, they only use arcs and elders, not the other classifications that you have stated, this is of mans words trying to describe what is above. Father did not state this in his Word, another man had written this about above in scripture, from what was given.

edit on 15-7-2012 by jhill76 because: (no reason given)


Ummm. As a prophet of the Most High who do you think was telling Ezekiel to say this? Lol

(Ezekiel 28:14)



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 01:01 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by DocHolidaze
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im just going on my religions background as a kid i was told he was a fallen archangel , i may be wrong i don't go or associate with the church anymore, but even if he is a cherub or whatever he can still change forms and portray himself as something other than he is to deceive.


Well, newsflash, religion screws up a lot of stuff. The Bible says he was a formerly anointed cherub. They are quite a bit more powerful than archs. Only two archs are mentioned in scripture, Michael who protects Israel and Gabriel who proceeds before the Messiah or makes proclamations on behalf of the Messiah. No worries, not attacking you just correcting a minor error for the sake of precision.


so details i get it, but why is no one addressing the fact that it could be the devil and not God or Angels at all, but a dark force trying to trick a human soul? its been done before



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 01:08 PM
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Ummm. As a prophet of the Most High who do you think was telling Ezekiel to say this? Lol


When Ezekiel heard that particular word, he was told this by another, who was posing as above at this particular time (He was told later on, that he was given false). He didn't hear the word during the speech, so after the prophecy was given, he had to ask what was the word given, so he may write it down.

Everything else was from above, but, that word he had to re-clarify because he didn't hear it properly.

When most prophecies are given, not all of the information is 100% accurate, it is the fault of the receiver, not the fault of above. Human ways come into affect on this, there are many variables at play.

*He didn't know what he was writing, would one day become the bible, that the world over would read as truth. If he did, he surely would have went back through everything and double checked every single word.
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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 01:10 PM
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so details i get it, but why is no one addressing the fact that it could be the devil and not God or Angels at all, but a dark force trying to trick a human soul? its been done before


Same thing happened to Ezekiel on the classification word. But, many will say no, when they wasn't there to observe. This has only happened a few times in scripture, very rare.

I am getting to that, that's why I want him to answer my questions. I can't come out and say this is what happened, I have no credibility on here. So, I must let him come to the understanding on his own, if that makes sense.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 01:23 PM
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Do you even know what a prophet is? The mouthpiece of God. God gave the word to Ezekiel to prophesy. Ezekiel vocalised the Word from God.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 01:25 PM
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I don't think anyone can deny that the can is being kicked down the road.
I don't believe that the lord will stand by and watch his bride be destroyed forever.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by DocHolidaze

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by DocHolidaze
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im just going on my religions background as a kid i was told he was a fallen archangel , i may be wrong i don't go or associate with the church anymore, but even if he is a cherub or whatever he can still change forms and portray himself as something other than he is to deceive.


Well, newsflash, religion screws up a lot of stuff. The Bible says he was a formerly anointed cherub. They are quite a bit more powerful than archs. Only two archs are mentioned in scripture, Michael who protects Israel and Gabriel who proceeds before the Messiah or makes proclamations on behalf of the Messiah. No worries, not attacking you just correcting a minor error for the sake of precision.


so details i get it, but why is no one addressing the fact that it could be the devil and not God or Angels at all, but a dark force trying to trick a human soul? its been done before


In the OP he said it was the Lord, Jesus who identified it as Gabriel.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Do you even know what a prophet is? The mouthpiece of God. God gave the word to Ezekiel to prophesy. Ezekiel vocalised the Word from God.


Exactly. He was given speech, he translated that speech and wrote it down on paper. What made you draw the conclusion, that I did not know what a prophet is?




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