posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 06:08 PM
Originally posted by LUXUS
This looks nothing like a spade or a spear! however what it does look like is a conical object on the top of a pedestal ie a benben stone or as
Laurence called it a Shem stone...I care nothing for the name used to refer to it but only the object itself.
This is a spade
This is a spade too
They look a lot more like the picture than a conical object on the top of a pedestal. A ben ben is not conical either, it is a mound.
Benben or Ben-ben, in Egyptian mythology, specifically in the Heliopolitan tradition, was the mound that arose from the primordial waters, Nu, and on
which the creator god Atum settled.
The symbol of Marduk are a dragon and a spade, they appear numerous times and are attested both artistically and textually. You have no support for
your conclusions from the original cultures, all you have is claims made by people who have never studied the original cultures, so until you support
your claims properly, theyre not worth talking about really. This is how you do history, you start with what the culture says about itself and you
draw conclusions from there. You don't start with a premise and then look for facts to fit it. As I have already explained, using cylinder seals to
support your argument is about the worst medium you could possibly use as they were manufactured by artists who would have had no knowledge of the
things you are claiming. All cylinder seals show is representations of well known mythological and religious motifs. Its starting to look like all you
have is misinterpretations of cylinder seals because you don't have anything else.
Here is the most comprehensive collection of Mesopotamian texts in the world
Please support your claims properly. That way at least lies credibility.
Now here is a much more detailed picture of Marduks symbol from a much larger piece of art.
Marduk's symbol, the (triangular) spade, on top of a temple, as seen on the side of a kudurru (boundary stone) at the British Museum.
This time its quite clear that it is one integral object and not a cone of any sort on top of a pedastal, this is not surprising as there is no
Mesopotamian word for crystal, they wouldn't know what it was.
see for yourself
the closest you have is "dušia" which means "stone"
Andrew Collins wrote a lot about the Shem(su) hor, so you maybe want to read what he said about that again before you go betting anything at all
can you also give me a list of the orthodox sources you have checked when investigating this or did you just take the pseudo history authors word as
gospel just because they wrote it down in a book
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