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Originally posted by votan
Originally posted by TinfoilTP
Originally posted by votan
I really do not understand why everyone is surprised when an empire decides to conquer another nation. Have you people not realized the USA is an empire.
If you have realized the USA is an empire why are you all surprised?? This is what empires do, they conquer other nations.
That's why Germany is still Germany, Japan is still Japan, Iraq is still Iraq, Afghanistan is still Afghanistan.
Never has the US conquered. When Rome conquered Carthage, they pounded the civilization to dust and ashes and covered it with salt so that it would never be settled to rise again, that is conquering.
They conquered the Native americans.... but why split hairs when you know what i meant.
Originally posted by RobinB022
Originally posted by votan
Originally posted by TinfoilTP
Originally posted by votan
I really do not understand why everyone is surprised when an empire decides to conquer another nation. Have you people not realized the USA is an empire.
If you have realized the USA is an empire why are you all surprised?? This is what empires do, they conquer other nations.
That's why Germany is still Germany, Japan is still Japan, Iraq is still Iraq, Afghanistan is still Afghanistan.
Never has the US conquered. When Rome conquered Carthage, they pounded the civilization to dust and ashes and covered it with salt so that it would never be settled to rise again, that is conquering.
They conquered the Native americans.... but why split hairs when you know what i meant.
Nothing to brag about IMO, and does not make US an empire.
But you're right, why split hairs.
Originally posted by Rabbi4Peace
Originally posted by g146541
Originally posted by sonnny1
Originally posted by g146541
The terrorist state of israel must be destroyed in order for there to be peace in the sandbox.
The population of Israel, as defined by the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics, was estimated in 2012 to be 7879500 people, of whom 5930000 are Jewish....
Destroy:To ruin completely; spoil
If I am ever really in power, the destruction of the Jews will be my first and most important job.~ Adolf Hitler
You are in good company.
You see, this is how your type work, just where did I say jew?
I said the terrorist state of israel, there are jews all over the world.
I promise we will not run out besides, there are also jews who call for the fall of the terrorist state of israel.
I have noticed a lot of this tactic since I have joined ATS. These desperate attempts of theirs are downright snakelike and should not be tolerated. This site is about denying ignorance yet these members are promoting ignorance with accusations of racism and or bigotry.
Do the moderators always tolerate this?
Originally posted by votan
Originally posted by TinfoilTP
Originally posted by votan
Originally posted by TinfoilTP
Originally posted by votan
I really do not understand why everyone is surprised when an empire decides to conquer another nation. Have you people not realized the USA is an empire.
If you have realized the USA is an empire why are you all surprised?? This is what empires do, they conquer other nations.
That's why Germany is still Germany, Japan is still Japan, Iraq is still Iraq, Afghanistan is still Afghanistan.
Never has the US conquered. When Rome conquered Carthage, they pounded the civilization to dust and ashes and covered it with salt so that it would never be settled to rise again, that is conquering.
They conquered the Native americans.... but why split hairs when you know what i meant.
No that is just the law of the jungle, survival of the fittest.
It's not pretty but inevitable when a higher technological society vies for the same territory than a lower tech one. The outcome is inevitable. It is why there are no pure races found on earth, they are all a mix from the vanquished succumbing to the vanquisher. The Indians themselves vanquished weaker tribes and absorbed the surviving vanquished into their gene pool.
That is not what you originally meant by calling America a conquerer but as you can see I gladly and easily destroyed you second notion also.
Isn't the same scenario playing out with Iran and the USA.... Iran wants technology equal to the USA so they can be on par but the usa says NOPE CAN'T HAPPEN GET READY TO GET OWNED IF YOU TRY.
The USA is a conqueror, unless you think The English Empire was not an empire. I mean india is still india china is still china.. but it was not an empire that conquered so much of the world?? they did conquer much of the world with their influence currency and military might which is the same as the USA is doing now.
But based on your belief conquering is only done by military means and eradications of a people or nationality?? actually that is genocide.
What is your definition of conquer?? Or does its definition depend on whether it supports your cause at the given time.
So far the USA has conquered the world with its currency and with its influence. those that do not acknowledge this or try to make moves to become equal to the USA are reprimanded by military force in order for the USA to stay dominant and not have another power conquer what it already has accomplished.
The thing that gets me is even by you own explaination of the native americans you still describe conquering.
van·quish
[vang-kwish, van-] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1.
to conquer or subdue by superior force, as in battle.
2.
to defeat in any contest or conflict; be victorious over: to vanquish one's opponent in an argument.
3.
to overcome or overpower: He vanquished all his fears.
con·quer
[kong-ker] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1.
to acquire by force of arms; win in war: to conquer a foreign land.
2.
to overcome by force; subdue: to conquer an enemy.
3.
to gain, win, or obtain by effort, personal appeal, etc.: conquer the hearts of his audience.
4.
to gain a victory over; surmount; master; overcome: to conquer disease and poverty; to conquer one's fear.
look at the definition and see the similarities.. thank you for proving my point you went out of your way to say vanquish where people would usually say conquer of defeat./ way to make mental gymnastics to prove someone on the internet wrong.
good job buddy that sheeple picture is fitting for you
No no no, you don't understand the scope of my dislike, the terrorist state of israel has murdered my countrymen without provocation and with much calculation.
Just for that alone, I would have this terrorist state destroyed, but they do soooo much more than that.
And no, I would destroy this terrorist state we call israel overtly and in your face, it would not be for forged reasons, plus with them running amok starting proxy war after proxy war, someone has to put the rabid dog down.
I am not like them, I never conceal my thoughts or intent.
Originally posted by TinfoilTP
Originally posted by votan
Originally posted by TinfoilTP
Originally posted by votan
Originally posted by TinfoilTP
Originally posted by votan
I really do not understand why everyone is surprised when an empire decides to conquer another nation. Have you people not realized the USA is an empire.
If you have realized the USA is an empire why are you all surprised?? This is what empires do, they conquer other nations.
That's why Germany is still Germany, Japan is still Japan, Iraq is still Iraq, Afghanistan is still Afghanistan.
Never has the US conquered. When Rome conquered Carthage, they pounded the civilization to dust and ashes and covered it with salt so that it would never be settled to rise again, that is conquering.
They conquered the Native americans.... but why split hairs when you know what i meant.
No that is just the law of the jungle, survival of the fittest.
It's not pretty but inevitable when a higher technological society vies for the same territory than a lower tech one. The outcome is inevitable. It is why there are no pure races found on earth, they are all a mix from the vanquished succumbing to the vanquisher. The Indians themselves vanquished weaker tribes and absorbed the surviving vanquished into their gene pool.
That is not what you originally meant by calling America a conquerer but as you can see I gladly and easily destroyed you second notion also.
Isn't the same scenario playing out with Iran and the USA.... Iran wants technology equal to the USA so they can be on par but the usa says NOPE CAN'T HAPPEN GET READY TO GET OWNED IF YOU TRY.
The USA is a conqueror, unless you think The English Empire was not an empire. I mean india is still india china is still china.. but it was not an empire that conquered so much of the world?? they did conquer much of the world with their influence currency and military might which is the same as the USA is doing now.
But based on your belief conquering is only done by military means and eradications of a people or nationality?? actually that is genocide.
What is your definition of conquer?? Or does its definition depend on whether it supports your cause at the given time.
So far the USA has conquered the world with its currency and with its influence. those that do not acknowledge this or try to make moves to become equal to the USA are reprimanded by military force in order for the USA to stay dominant and not have another power conquer what it already has accomplished.
The thing that gets me is even by you own explaination of the native americans you still describe conquering.
van·quish
[vang-kwish, van-] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1.
to conquer or subdue by superior force, as in battle.
2.
to defeat in any contest or conflict; be victorious over: to vanquish one's opponent in an argument.
3.
to overcome or overpower: He vanquished all his fears.
con·quer
[kong-ker] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1.
to acquire by force of arms; win in war: to conquer a foreign land.
2.
to overcome by force; subdue: to conquer an enemy.
3.
to gain, win, or obtain by effort, personal appeal, etc.: conquer the hearts of his audience.
4.
to gain a victory over; surmount; master; overcome: to conquer disease and poverty; to conquer one's fear.
look at the definition and see the similarities.. thank you for proving my point you went out of your way to say vanquish where people would usually say conquer of defeat./ way to make mental gymnastics to prove someone on the internet wrong.
good job buddy that sheeple picture is fitting for you
A lot of long wind to still offer up zero evidence that the US has ever conquered anything.
The US is not an Empire either. Eisenhower did not conquer Europe for some fictitious US empire, he was Supreme Allied Commander. The Allies conquered Nazi Germany and later paid for its reconstruction and saw to the implementation of the borders to define Sovereign Nations. If they were only pawns to an empire how did they unite to form the EU under their own currency? That right there destroys your entire argument that the fictitious all conquering US empire will not allow anything but the dollar to rule supreme.
Your attempts to argue for the existence of fiction is very amusing.
Originally posted by votan
Then there was no british empire even though it was called an empire I never claimed the usa conquered any part of europe yet it keeps all other countries not in europe like south american and the middle east dominated many european nations are pushed by the USA to aide them in war if they are so soverign why do they listen to the usa? Maybe because they leverage them with thei power yet all business is conducted in usd yeah not a dominant currency more gymanstics peez
I don't understand why you call Israel a "terrorist state" when Syria and the Palestinians are the one's always using Terrorism to justify their attempts to take over the land Israel occupies. Israelies are not mad bombers, they are not the one's sending suicide bombers into public places to kill as many innocent civilians as possible. Perhaps you care to explain your side of it.
Originally posted by Jocko Flocko
reply to post by g146541
Of course Adolf, right after the collective finishes killing millions of people in Israel and the remaining Israeli population becomes a part of Palestine and converted to islam. The ones that don't convert have their heads chopped off. Enjoy your chocolate milk nutcase.
edit on 15-7-2012 by Jocko Flocko because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Jocko Flocko
reply to post by g146541
Of course Adolf, right after the collective finishes killing millions of people in Israel and the remaining Israeli population becomes a part of Palestine and converted to islam. The ones that don't convert have their heads chopped off. Enjoy your chocolate milk nutcase.
By your simplistic and asinine analogy it would make it acceptable to bomb into submission Mexico due to the enormous amounts of destructive narcotics it exports into the U.S.A. on a daily basis. The rest of the civilians that remain alive after a massive bombing campaign can freely join the U.S. or die. The kind of destructive solution you propose is thankfully only present in the minds of the ignorant, uneducated and simple minded.
Originally posted by TinfoilTP
Originally posted by votan
I really do not understand why everyone is surprised when an empire decides to conquer another nation. Have you people not realized the USA is an empire.
If you have realized the USA is an empire why are you all surprised?? This is what empires do, they conquer other nations.
That's why Germany is still Germany, Japan is still Japan, Iraq is still Iraq, Afghanistan is still Afghanistan.
Never has the US conquered. When Rome conquered Carthage, they pounded the civilization to dust and ashes and covered it with salt so that it would never be settled to rise again, that is conquering.
Originally posted by Jocko Flocko
reply to post by g146541
By your simplistic and asinine analogy it would make it acceptable to bomb into submission Mexico due to the enormous amounts of destructive narcotics it exports into the U.S.A. on a daily basis. The rest of the civilians that remain alive after a massive bombing campaign can freely join the U.S. or die. The kind of destructive solution you propose is thankfully only present in the minds of the ignorant, uneducated and simple minded.