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The Presidental canidates and their records and their supporters... is there a difference?

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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 09:14 AM
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With the dog and pony show we call a Presidental race gearing up why don't we stop and take a look at each canidate, not what they say but where they actually stand.



When is ok to ignore facts. Which product would you buy.



In this picture if we held Romney up he would be the same as Obama... why is it that even though Romney and Obama have the same views on all the issues people would rather ignore facts than actually make an educated decision. I know Romney supporters aren't all stupid some are very educated and yet they will just completely ignore the stats.



why is it that the military support Ron Paul.... these are people who deal with the political system every day. When did it become that there is such a divide in this country. We love and support our troops but their opinions just don't matter.



Why trust someone who has changed his stance depending on the weather and public opinion. Someone who panders to the vote and then turns around and does what he is told by big corporations.



I wonder how many people that understand what the constitution was meant for. To limit the control of government over the people. ( I really think its funny that george bush is poppin out all the way on the right.. makes me laugh)



Here is a video of romney on obamacare.... Look at the sign right in front of him... Romney doesn't want to get rid of the health care bill.. he wants to replace it... replace it with what???? I believe the reason it will be a Romney vs Obama ticket is because the Establishment doesn't give up power it takes. No matter what we will have a version of this Healthcare bill and the government will grow bigger and bigger.



Ron Paul calls out the Establishment here. He admits that repealing obamacare isn't likely.. you don't hear that from Romney do ya... nope.



So my question... who tells the truth even though it hurts.. who is the one u could support.




posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 09:38 AM
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Thanks for reminding me that Ron Paul is America's best chance at any sort of recovery. I do not know what will happen when this cycle's election rolls around, but I fear the worst in some places as some attempt to steal the election. I predict voter fraud will be all over the news, and there will be recounts and court decisions. Chaos. Internal Conflict, or Popular Rebellion, perhaps.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 10:49 AM
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Your welcome, I really find it remarkable how similar most of them are and how ignored ron paul is. Most people don't seem to care and I love the argument that Romney supporters give that they don't care about his record... thats insane to me



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 11:01 AM
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There is one small problem with this thread...Ron Paul is no longer a Presidential Candidate...he failed to meet the requirements to be a candidate for the Republican nomination and he has said he isn't running third part.

So I'm not sure why you are still calling him a candidate.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
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There is one small problem with this thread...Ron Paul is no longer a Presidential Candidate...he failed to meet the requirements to be a candidate for the Republican nomination and he has said he isn't running third part.

So I'm not sure why you are still calling him a candidate.


Actually your wrong.. if Romney was to have some kind of "accident" Ron Paul would be the only one standing for nomination. So your wrong.

And at least you admit that is the only thing wrong with this thread... Obama and Romney are exactly the same on their voting history and campaign donors.

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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 11:28 AM
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Actually your wrong.. if Romney was to have some kind of "accident" Ron Paul would be the only one standing for nomination. So your wrong.


Romney and Santorum will be on the ballot for the first round at the convention....they are the only ones that met the qualifications to be an official candidate at the convention.

If somethng happesn where Romney "drops out"...Santorum will be the Republican nominee.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
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Actually your wrong.. if Romney was to have some kind of "accident" Ron Paul would be the only one standing for nomination. So your wrong.


Romney and Santorum will be on the ballot for the first round at the convention....they are the only ones that met the qualifications to be an official candidate at the convention.

If somethng happesn where Romney "drops out"...Santorum will be the Republican nominee.



ewww.. that just turns my stomach... I know ron paul isn't going to win the gop nomination they won't let him no matter what.

So what is the difference between Romney and Obama... I know your a big obama supporter or at least you push his agenda ignoring his faults. So whats the difference... they have the same corporate donors they vote the same way on most the issues... people say all the time they are different, I just don't see it.... a vote for Obama is a vote for Romney policies and vice versa.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 12:21 PM
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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 04:00 PM
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notice you cant argue with facts... come on outkast i know you got something against these guys records showing obama is somehow different than Romney



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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by Doalrite
notice you cant argue with facts... come on outkast i know you got something against these guys records showing obama is somehow different than Romney


I gave you and auto on this thread a star for each post since Outkast somehow got 4 (out of no where?) each post and nobody else agrees with him.

Plus just about everything he says is wrong and full of spin. I assume hes fairly close to getting a job as a MSM talking head.

Blows my mind how many people would star a person for saying Santorum would be the rep nominee. Must be a lot of religious zealots on ATS who want to get rid of internet porn.
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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by RSF77

Originally posted by Doalrite
notice you cant argue with facts... come on outkast i know you got something against these guys records showing obama is somehow different than Romney


I gave you and auto on this thread a star for each post since Outkast somehow got 3 (immediately) each post and nobody else here is agreeing with him.

Plus just about everything he says is wrong and full of spin. I assume hes fairly close to getting a job as a MSM talking head.
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I appreciate that.. seems the game plan is just to completely ignore facts now... funny how outty got three so quick lol



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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 07:03 PM
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Wanna know how you are posting facts that cant be challanged and really point out the faults of the canidates... the shills don't and can't argue with you.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
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Actually your wrong.. if Romney was to have some kind of "accident" Ron Paul would be the only one standing for nomination. So your wrong.


Romney and Santorum will be on the ballot for the first round at the convention....they are the only ones that met the qualifications to be an official candidate at the convention.

If somethng happesn where Romney "drops out"...Santorum will be the Republican nominee.


You sure about that Outkast?





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