Originally posted by donlashway
reply to post by Bedlam
Keely I first read about this weekend but hidden power in water I have always believed in, so many things about water are not understood.
Resonant frequencies and their power has always intrigued me.
Yeah....but....43khz isn't going to resonate anything with water. Especially 43khz of sound. Here's a thing to consider when you think about
resonances - the resonances are going to occur when the wavelength of your input stimulus more or less matches some mechanical feature of the object.
When you push someone on a swing, the pushes are most effective when they're timed to match the swing frequency of the pendulum formed by the swing.
So you push when the swing naturally comes back to the top of its swing - that works best.
If my kid's in a swing, and I grab the swing and start shaking it back and forth as fast as I can manage, it won't go very far. It might torque back
and forth and wobble but it's not going to swing properly. That's because I have a bad mismatch between a fast shake (short wavelength) and the
mechanical feature of the swing's rope length/pendulum frequency (long wavelength).
Resonance also doesn't work well when there's a lot of damping in the system. That turns the motion into heat. It's a low-q system. There might
actually BE a resonance in there, but you won't notice it because no energy is stored, it's all dissipated. For example, if you tap a crystal wine
glass with a spoon it rings - ping! that's a form of resonance - glass is elastic and crystal's got high q mechanically. That's also why it's
If I have a lead goblet, tapping it won't give me a ping, I'll get a clunk. Lead is dissipative. The material flexes but turns the flexure into heat
(very small) so no ping. It's one reason you don't make lead violins.
So take water. Water's got the usual quantum-mechanical type resonances in the IR and microwave spectra, wagging, rocking, scissoring etc. But the
lengths of these features is about the length of a hydrogen bond, around 200 picometers. The wavelength of 43khz sound in water is something like 3cm
offhand. ORDERS of magnitude difference.
Some movie had a line about water burning at high temperatures and I did a patent search finding that oil companies have a water gas patent for
equipment to clean oil wells, ( a heated box using a catalyst that does separate water to h2 & o then burns it to get high temperature steam).
Hydrogen and oxygen do burn pretty hot. Water can't burn because it's sort of at the bottom of exothermy. It's burnt.
I doubt you found a catalyst for disassociating water. Catalysts are used to overcome activation energy for reactions - generally exothermic ones,
although most catalysts will drive reactions both ways to some extent, the exothermic direction's going to vastly predominate unless you apply an
awful lot of energy. In the case of water, it's burnt. There's no activation potential to overcome. If you put enough heat into water to dissociate
it with the help of a catalyst, you might as well just heat it to steam in the first place.
There are catalysts to crack H2O2 into steam and oxygen, could that be what you saw?
I was thinking maybe that temperature equates to a frequency maybe a vibration, (sound) or several put together.
Recently there was a dentist here in FL using microwaves to disassociate water, he discovered it while looking to cure his leukemia, leukemia got him
Kanzias. He found that RF would dissociate water, if it's full of ionic contaminants. It wasn't microwaves. He was using a stock diathermy machine
with decorative addons to hide what he was using. Heck, IIRC he wasn't even using radio, it was h-field.
I even go so far as to think JFK was killed because he wanted to use the water gas idea in the space program.
Age of Aquarius should have something to do with water and wouldn't it be neat if we were all freed by free energy from water.
Well, all the free energy from water has been freed. You burn hydrogen and oxygen to get there. You got heat and light. The ashes of what's left are
what we call water. It's sort of like saying - we had this neat campfire where we burned this wood. It got really hot. So I'd like to turn the ashes
and charcoal back into logs and burn it again so we can get free campfire energy. That's ok, but converting it back to wood is gonna take more energy
than you'll get back when you burn it the second time.
So I asked for opinions and ideas about Keely and his work hoping to save some time, not to get anyone angry or upset.
Just looking for answers and ideas, Don
Not angry or upset. I find Keely to be like P T Barnum - there's a lot you can learn from him outside of the "secrets of chords".