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posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 03:59 PM
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Not what I was referring to or advocating, for the record.




posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by MemoryShock
reply to post by getreadyalready
 

Not what I was referring to or advocating, for the record.


Good thing to have on record, but it would be a more direct and productive approach.

I always think of the Swordfish Quote


Stanley: War? Who are we at war with?
Gabriel: Anyone who impinges on America's freedom. Terrorist states, Stanley. Someone must bring their war to them. They bomb a church, we bomb ten. They hijack a plane, we take out an airport. They execute American tourists, we tactically nuke an entire city. Our job is to make terrorism so horrific that it becomes unthinkable to attack Americans.


That is the way disagreements are resolved permanantely.

For the record, I'm not advocating it either. But it makes a lot more sense than standing outside with signs.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
For the record, I'm not advocating it either. But it makes a lot more sense than standing outside with signs.


Reminds me of the 5 monkey experiment...



Sense or not, before the internet, someone who mentioned Bohemian Grove not in Sonoma County would have been discarded with no thought. Without those signs, there would have been no reason to make a thread about it. Whether or not one agrees with a protest...the point of a protest is to raise awareness. Whether you agree with the protest or not...you do agree that there is a problem with how business is conducted by some if not all of the men at the Grove.

I think currently that the protest is accomplishing exactly what we set out to do...ATS isn't the only site this discussion has occurred...



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 04:19 PM
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ou do agree that there is a problem with how business is conducted by some if not all of the men at the Grove.


Yes, in general respect, but not necessarily at the grove. I disagree with global economics and politics as a whole, and I disagree with Keynesian economics that make the playing field unlevel and benefit big corporations and lobbyists, and I disagree with big business operating at a loss intentionally to run little business out of the competitive market.

BUT, I don't think the little camp out at the Grove is significant. I think these things are openly taught in our Universities, and praised in the business world as savvy operating technique.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 04:26 PM
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We basically disagree on one point then...I really think that there is an issue there for reasons I have detailed throughout this thread and reasons I have yet to write...



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 06:15 PM
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Thank you memory. And about where those ideas come from. The met at the bohemian grove and builder berg and separate into groups of 20 groups of 6 people, or is it 6 groups of 20, either way you get the point. I believe each group making a plan for their "problem". Proposing it to the panel of 8, the leaders of builder burg and controllers of the free world. Especially evil ideas make it to the quarter finals and the plans that could be created by an evil mastermind go to the finals. Those get voted on and ding ding ding, you have a depopulation formula.

Do I believe that the survival of the human race depends on depopulation yes I do believe it or not. But since I have similar beliefs I cannot argue against myself now can I. Which brings me to my next argument... Why is it that they get to decide who lives and who dies? Sounds like terrorism to me. Who are they to tell us get medical care or we are going to bend you over. Who are they to force radiation treatments on cancer patients while outlawing possible complete cures and denying us antineoplastons treatment that have no apparent side effects through 40 years of testing all the while pumping out higher success rates all the while cutting down on costs?

Now to get back to the depopulation I welcome it if it means the survival of the race, but do it humanly and do it when it is apparent.

Will add more later!!! Thanks for the support...



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 06:25 PM
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posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 06:27 PM
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The grove is the very least of our worries. It aint just your everyday retreat. haaaRead two posts up



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 06:54 PM
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Dude I am so anti government it makes me laugh that you would post that.

Being pro privacy is not pro government, the two are no mutually exclusive. Even the power players at the grove have the right to not be disturbed, the same as you or I.

If arguing politely makes me a kiss ass, that's fine. At least I don't have to resort to threats, and name calling to prove a point.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 07:49 PM
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Well you are really wise or really gullible to be nice . I don't guess you have paid attention have you ? Agenda 21 is a United Nations document that sets guidelines for a Socialist Government here in the USA . Ironically we the shadow government the home of the United Nations are pushing it . Does the Grove have anything to do with that ? You better believe it , directly or indirectly the same clan of the NWO attends . Agenda 21 started out as SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT the same plan Bill Clinton endorsed for us . Ain't gonna happen ? Look around you ! Have you ever heard of ICLEI ? It's the local government version where Agenda 21 is being introduced into your neighborhood . Check it out . My mayor in Jax Fl is waist deep in it already . He doesn't even know that he is going to be enslaved by it . George Soros is all about Socialism and forcing it on us . He already has great influence in our country now .
Alex Jones may piss off some people with his presentations but at least his sensationalism is getting out the word . How would we ever know anything that our politicians don't want us to know . They own the news !



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 07:54 PM
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Mister Mason , you say you are anti government . The Bilderberg NWO bunch are for sure against our government and it's Constitution and Bill of Rights . You need to be specific .



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 08:32 PM
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I firmly believe in the American Constitution. I am against nearly everything the US has done to trample our individual rights to privacy. I believe in personal responsibility of the citizen. The federal government needs to remember its modus operandi and return the power to the States.

Because of this, despite the fact that power players meet as a club and party together, I believe it's their right to do so in private. What they say, and do is ultimately speculations and people get wild with the accusations made. You can expect people to talk shop, but I think these people gather to cut loose and enjoy some fresh air and a rockin party. You think the elite don't enjoy a cold beer and a hotdog? Even millionaires like to barbecue, and I'm not talking about the CoC.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 08:51 PM
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Well we do agree on our sovereignty and validity of our nation and the rights we enjoy .
I still believe that our government leaders are put there by those same people who are the facilitators of the Grove and other such secret organizations .



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by SimonPeter
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Well we do agree on our sovereignty and validity of our nation and the rights we enjoy .
I still believe that our government leaders are put there by those same people who are the facilitators of the Grove and other such secret organizations .


I think we all agree that there are puppeteers in charge of politics. It seems the only disagreement is whether or not important things happen at an event like the Grove. Personally, I think that would be a huge mistake to get all the important players together, quite publicly, and discuss dirty dealings openly.

If there are puppeteers, the deals are made very covertly, very guardedly, and in very close-knit company at times and places we have never heard of.

Just like the President is a figure-head for outward appearances, the Grove is a symbol of gluttony and power for outward appearances. The true powerhouses are not there, and have never been there, they are somewhere else orchestrating the whole thing.

The things we know about the Grove are the things we are supposed to know, to give the illusion of importance, and the illusion of who is in charge of things on a grand scale, but it is all misdirection.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 09:36 PM
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Don't think just because some one belongs to a "secret society" they aren't allowed to live as they will.

Every one needs to cut loose, SimonPeter. Here is a quote from another thread that applies here.


Originally posted by W3RLIED2
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My serious side.



Ahem... My not so serious side.



Even Freemasons need to have some fun. Apply that logic to the BGC.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 08:40 AM
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Nice pics! I like the second one better, LOL!

I have, in the same week, met with the Governor and Legislators, and then the very next day gone to traffic court in Overalls and a Tuxedo T-shirt, LOL! We all have multiple sides to us. I've been with a group of people at a celebrity luncheon raising 10s of 1000s of dollars for charity, and later that night been with the same group of people drinking, skinny dipping, and running from the beach patrol, LOL!

Everyone takes an opportunity to let their hair down and have some fun among trusted friends. Nothing wrong with that at all. Some places are known for that sort of thing. Florida, Vegas, New Orleans, etc. I think the Grove is such a place. I doubt there is very much business getting done there.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by W3RLIED2
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I firmly believe in the American Constitution. I am against nearly everything the US has done to trample our individual rights to privacy. I believe in personal responsibility of the citizen. The federal government needs to remember its modus operandi and return the power to the States.

Because of this, despite the fact that power players meet as a club and party together, I believe it's their right to do so in private. What they say, and do is ultimately speculations and people get wild with the accusations made. You can expect people to talk shop, but I think these people gather to cut loose and enjoy some fresh air and a rockin party. You think the elite don't enjoy a cold beer and a hotdog? Even millionaires like to barbecue, and I'm not talking about the CoC.


You just dont know wat you are talking about. With your first paragraph you advocate for the re institution of the US CONSTITUTION, BILL OF RIGHTS and THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, although not in those exact words.

However in your second paragraph, you advocate privacy for those murders, terrorists, socialist communist fascist pigs. Stuff that George Washington and SOME of our fore-fathers would have hanged them for then burned them then put there ashes in acid for. The wars and cause of the wars are more than enough to jail you or me. Would you let a gang of murders be if you knew that they were at a book club or Tupperware party if you were the law. And if those gangs of murderers where sitting in the oval office could you just sit there and take orders from those that jeopardize the freedom and lives of you your family or your country. You and/or some or most of your family will get cancer tumors lymphoma and on and on and on, because of these bureaucratic corn holes. Now remember you are the law. No you would not. They have one job protect this country and keep roads in good enough condition for commerce. Point blank period. I would love to be a friend to you here on ats, but it just wont ever be that way. You dont think enough. You think inside the box, and for someone who represents the compass and square, you aint doing too good of a job of it.
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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 03:57 PM
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Nope I pretty much know exactly what I'm talking about in this regard. I didn't even mention the declaration....

Any way I am pretty much done arguing.



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 01:01 PM
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My God I'm talking to a youngster ! No wonder!



posted on Jul, 19 2012 @ 02:15 PM
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I see no reason why we need to devolve into ad hominems.





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