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Which Barack Obama Do You Believe? The one who proclaimed that if you own a business "you didn't build that." or the one now trying to tell you that what you heard is not really what you heard?
Originally posted by xuenchen
Now Obama has an ad out that tries real hard to cover this up
Which Barack Obama Do You Believe? The one who proclaimed that if you own a business "you didn't build that." or the one now trying to tell you that what you heard is not really what you heard?
Which Barack Obama Do You Believe?
The "damage Control" is doing more "damage" than the original gaffe !!
"Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, that - you didn't build that.
Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by sensibleSenseless
"Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, that - you didn't build that.
I would like your interpretation except that the "that" is closer, in the sentence, to "business" than "roads and bridges." Also "roads and bridges" is plural, and "that" is singular. So is "business." I would have thought that Obama, the orator, could construct a sentence that conveyed his thought.
but then the reality sunk in and loooooong ago, before there was "government", there were roads and businesses and trading and even skirmishes and battles ... so, who "built" it then ??
I believe when he says "you didn't build that" - he was referring to the roads and bridges. Not that some businesses don't build roads and bridges. Just that public tax money goes to ensure that public infrastructure such as roads and bridges exist so that business can be run.
Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by sensibleSenseless
you almost had me going here ...but then the reality sunk in and loooooong ago, before there was "government", there were roads and businesses and trading and even skirmishes and battles ... so, who "built" it then ??
I believe when he says "you didn't build that" - he was referring to the roads and bridges. Not that some businesses don't build roads and bridges. Just that public tax money goes to ensure that public infrastructure such as roads and bridges exist so that business can be run.
as far as roads and bridges go ... IF the government WANTS to be responsible for them, they should do something about them.
afterall, soooo many are currently failing or getting failing grades ... but, since it's POTUS commentary, chances are that will be OUR fault too.
point is, government didn't build them, didn't finance them nor did they maintain them (the people have) ... IF the government did any of it, then we the people should be suing the government for their bad deeds, yet again.
the desalinization plants are a prime example.
the people said no ... government pushed and paid private industry to do it anyway.
the plants failed ... the people raised cain
government alleviated the "finanacial responsiblity" of the private contractors and then demanded the project continue onward ... and forces we the people to pay ... when does no mean NO ??
Originally posted by boeserwolf
Obama's got a point. Nobody lives in isolation. If you think you can build a business alone, go live someplace like Antarctica and see if you can do it "alone." We are part of a society, and in building a successful business you depend on lots of people around you - workers, customers, craftsmen, teachers who educate the workers, and government that builds and maintains the infrastructure to transport your goods. Most so-called private businesses are successful because they are raking in billions of dollars in government subsidies. Why does the government continue to provide subsidies to profitable enterprises like oil, coal, nuclear, etc? Most likely because without corporate welfare, they wouldn't be able to make it. So, yeah, I do agree nobody goes it alone. For all those successful businesses out there, especially the ones sucking on the government teat, get off the welfare and prove that you can be successful. Pay your taxes like everyone else to support the infrastructure that makes your business possible. Own up to the truth. No man is an island.
Originally posted by crazyguy2012
Obama's "logic" reminds me of the same arguments made by many "Christians" Everything you have accomplished is because of god. Sounds like he is trying to turn the government into a god.
OK then I agree with him. If we succeed it is because of the government. So now that everything seems to be falling apart and so many businesses have failed he should take the blame for that as well. It is the government's fault there is so much unemployment. It is the governments fault everyone is in foreclosure. OK thanks for that so what is the government going to do to fix this.
Everything I have achieved is because of the government... Ok then everything I have lost is also because of the government. I don't mean to insult anyone but there are many more losers in this country than winners. So it is the government's fault that less than one percent of the people control over 99% of the wealth in the country...
Hmmmm the more I think about it the more I agree with what he said.
Originally posted by crazyguy2012
reply to post by HamrHeed
so you are saying no Christians have every killed others who believe differently? History tells otherwise.
Gaster, a Vietnam veteran, told FoxNews.com he built his now 28-year-old business from the ground up.
Text"I started on my own," Gaster said. "The government wasn't there. We work long, hard hours and what he said is an insult to any businessman."
"When I heard what he said, I said 'I'm going to give him an answer in Chicago language--something he's used to,'" he told FoxNews.com. "If I would have said 'Dear Mr. President...' there wouldn't have been as strong of a response."
Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by sensibleSenseless
"Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, that - you didn't build that.
I would like your interpretation except that the "that" is closer, in the sentence, to "business" than "roads and bridges." Also "roads and bridges" is plural, and "that" is singular. So is "business." I would have thought that Obama, the orator, could construct a sentence that conveyed his thought.