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President Obama: ‘If You’ve Got a Business — You Didn’t Build That. Somebody Else Made That

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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 10:36 PM
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Out of context or not... I know what he said. I also know my first gut reaction to what he said... and it was not good.

Anybody that has gotten up early... no, not 7am... I mean 430am....and worked all day, gobbled down a bagged lunch because you are trying to cut costs and run on a budget, keep up with all the petty receipts so you can try to write them off and cut down the mindless taxes you will have to pay, negotiate and write checks for a few thousand dollars only to have to clean the toilets because you are the CEO and the janitor...

Or like me, working in the hot sun sweating out gallons of water planting collards, pumpkin seeds, and sunflowers so you can try to make some money this fall off of your farm.... plus cutting firewood to in the early AM before it gets too hot.... and marketing your goats on the internet... and working 50 hours a week somewhere else...

And then have the gall to tell me someone else built my business...

OK... sure ... the CCC in 1934 cut the road I drive on.... the county rebuilt the bridge over the creek last year... and somebody in Alabama built my Nissan truck... oh, and God made the Sun and rain and the seeds I planted...

But they are all tools I used to build MY Business... ain't nobody out there at 6am cutting wood with me... nobody out there at 9am running water to help germinate a few hundred collard seed...

If there is any body helping me build my business... it is the good Lord Almighty and my wife...

Damn sure ain't Mr Obama.
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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 10:37 PM
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I would think that most all people who started and grew a business (like myself) would acknowledge that they could not have done so without the support and influence of others - spouses, mentors, customers, bankers, suppliers, designers, etc.

Yet somehow this man says the same thing and makes the business owners sound vile and greedy and evil.

Makes you wonder where his head is at, is all I'm saying.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by Bone75


What's wrong with eliminating poverty, starvation, crime, disease, pollution, stress, abortion, banks, insurance companies, mortgage companies, salesmen, hard labor, and taxes?




Hahahahahaha... oh and did I say hahahahahahaha? Your kind of idealism is so naive. Please do study some history. I don't want to live in the kind of society folks with your kind of ideas want to forcefully bring about. Tell you what, the United States is the wrong place for you and your friends to try. We have a constitution to protect us from people with ideas such as yours. Perhaps you should relocate to somewhere where your hopes and dreams can be recognized.

What makes you think it is ok to completely change the entire framework of this great nation?


Exactly what did you find funny about my question? I think these are serious issues that should be addressed seriously.

Oh and nice tactic btw.... I state that we can eliminate 95% of the problems in our country, and you paint me as the enemy? I bet you think poverty and starvation are necessary elements of life don't you?

BTW... I forgot to mention homelessness, war, the suppression of technology, the suppression of ideas, welfare, social security, the stock market, pensions, abandoned children... My idea fixes all of this crap without changing much at all. This is just as much my country as it is yours!
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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 11:33 PM
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Get ready for Obama and his Obamatrons to Nationalize EVERYTHING... Obama still has most of the young naive, and stupid people in The United States in his grasp.

Yep, sorry but many, if not most young people are stupid and naive when it comes to leftwing policies...

Obama might get elected again, even if the mayority of Americans don't vote for him there is a chance the elites will put him in office again. He, and his administration work 100% for the socialist/fascist elites...

If he doesn't get elected maybe even Hillary Clinton might get the votes.

There is a new series about politics that is coming out soon on tv and is targeting young people. The series is obviously portraying Hillary Clinton, being played by Sigourney Weaver, and her husband Bill Clinton. The series revolves around their lives and what they are supposedly trying to achieve. It portrays Hillary as "a good woman who only thinks for the good of the people", and her husband is an adulterous bastard, describing Bill perfectly, who is stopping her from becoming President of the United States...

This is coming out right before the elections to try to swing the vote to Hillary if too many leftwingers have lost their faith on Obama...

A lot of people are going to fall for this baloney, and might give the vote to Hillary instead of Obama... But whichever one of them wins, they are going to do the same thing in completely destroying the United States...

Obama is selling us at a very rapid pace to the Chinese, and since Bill Clinton was doing the same thing when he was President and his wife was supporting him through this, she will do the same thing.

Anyone remembers how she was kissing the Chinese's feet when in 2009 she said and I quote;

Clinton: Chinese human rights can't interfere with other crises

"February 21, 2009

Successive administrations and Chinese governments have been poised back and forth on these issues, and we have to continue to press them. But our pressing on those issues can
't interfere with the global economic crisis, the global climate change crisis, and the security crisis," she told reporters in Seoul, South Korea.
...

articles.cnn.com...
OLITICS

She was pretty much saying that the made up crisis, Anthropognic Global Warming, terrorism, and the economic crisis, are more important than human rights... So if she is President she will trample our human rights in order to "battle" the made up crisis...

Now she is trying to make up for the f up she did in 2009...


Hillary Clinton Blasts China’s Human Rights Record

By Austin Ramzy | @austinramzy | May 11, 2011
...


Read more: world.time.com...

But most leftwingers have probably forgotten already what she said in 2009, and they will probably believe what she is saying now...

Either way, we are FKED UP...


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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 11:36 PM
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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 11:43 PM
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Wait, what? The infallible intellectual Barrack making a total and utter dunce out of himself in front of the entire world again? No way...

America, you've gotta pull your sh#t together. If not for us (humanity), at least for yourselves. Please stop electing idiots to run your country. Pay closer attention to your presidential candidates before they become president. If it wasn't for G. Dubya Bush Junior I might've made the assumption that you vote for presidents based solely on the impressiveness of their vocabulary, and that alone.

The entire planet suffers for your complacency, America, not just your friends, families and future children. I know it's hard, they've got money and tanks and well-spoken politicians, but if you take a quick look at your own history (and many other country's histories for that matter) you'll realize that taking the People's sovereignty and power back from the hands of incompetent thieves is probably the easiest task your nation has ever had to face. And if you fail to do so, that will be all the United States of America will be remembered for in the dark centuries to come.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 11:45 PM
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Originally posted by MsAphrodite

Originally posted by Bone75

Originally posted by John_Rodger_Cornman
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Whats wrong with not wanting marxist collectivism in the US?


What's wrong with eliminating poverty, starvation, crime, disease, pollution, stress, abortion, banks, insurance companies, mortgage companies, salesmen, hard labor, and taxes?



Hahahahahaha... oh and did I say hahahahahahaha? Your kind of idealism is so naive. Please do study some history. I don't want to live in the kind of society folks with your kind of ideas want to forcefully bring about. Tell you what, the United States is the wrong place for you and your friends to try. We have a constitution to protect us from people with ideas such as yours. Perhaps you should relocate to somewhere where your hopes and dreams can be recognized.

What makes you think it is ok to completely change the entire framework of this great nation?


Doesn't anyone know? American Constitution protects all. It would be good if you have hopes and dreams, you will make America stronger, better than those real naive ones who tell you to go away but are clueless to deal with poverty, starvation, crime, disease, pollution, stress, abortion, banks, insurance companies, mortgage companies, salesmen, hard labor, and taxes. They should go, but unfortunately like I said, American Constitution protects all, including clueless idiots.

Really, don't hijack and rant American Constitution if you don't know any thing about it, get a life. If you can't be part of the solution, you are part of the problem.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 11:45 PM
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Originally posted by Bone75
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Oh and nice tactic btw.... I state that we can eliminate 95% of the problems in our country, and you paint me as the enemy? I bet you think poverty and starvation are necessary elements of life don't you?
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Sorry, but you have no idea of what you are talking about... You claim to know how to solve all these problems and I am sure you can't even solve 5% of them IF you had the power to do it... You are just one of those "dogs that barks a lot and doesn't bite at all"... You just like to think you can control everything.

I am certain you also believe you can stop/mitigate Climate Change, right?... There is a definition for people like you... "control freak".

You can't understand that YOU can't do the work of over 300 million people... You can't control them, and there are MILLIONS of people who don't want to get off the nanny state they are living in... YOU can't feed 300 million people either by yourself, and YOU actually seem to think that you can control the mayority of the people in the U.S. to do YOUR will...

It is not that "starvation and poverty are necessary elements of life"... The fact is that YOU CAN'T control life, or ANYTHING that happens in the lives of over 300 million people... You just like to THINK and FANTASIZE that you can solve pretty much everything that happens in the U.S...


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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 11:50 PM
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Originally posted by habitforming
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wow...really? that's your counter-argument?...

What, you don't like the facts that are being written about your master?

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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 11:56 PM
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posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 12:00 AM
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Originally posted by habitforming
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How about you concern with yourself instead, and if you are going to discuss ARGUMENTS, do so, instead of trying to attack the person making the comments...
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posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by MsAphrodite
Entrepreneurs bring energy and ideas that others could never conceive. They have a form of leadership that few are capable of. To diminish the talent of a successful business starter/owner is ridiculous. No a janitor is not an equal. A janitor should however be grateful for the successful and talented business owner who employs them and gives them security. The entrepreneur puts his OWN money on the line, or borrows and pays it back in order to bring his ideas into fruition. Government employees would not have jobs and the ability to be paid without the tax revenue brought in by private enterprise.

Small business is the backbone of the country.

Those who are employed by a business owner should be grateful to the person who hired them. They should be happy to have an opportunity to earn a living under the leadership of one who was willing to take the risk and do the hard work of running a business. Small business owners never get to fully relax, the risk and the reward are both far greater for them than anyone they employ.


THIS!!!



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 12:49 AM
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I already made my argument in this thread and not one single person was willing to rebut me. I made my point and apparently it stands undisputed.



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 12:50 AM
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haha

Well why doesn't the honorable (lmao) obama, give back his 15 million he made from his book sales! While he is doing that, Buffet can pay back all the taxes he owes, but got a free ride for!!

This statement is bull sh***!! Obama wants everyone to kiss his sorry ass for all the govt. has done!! While he looks down his nose at everyone of us he tries to be "cool" and sell himself as part of the middle class!! he is soo out of touch with reality and manages to insult someone every time he opens his big mouth!

Let me share a brief story!!! my father was raised in South Louisiana during the great depression! It was a good
year if they got an orange and a banana for Christmas! His mother had a fourth grade education and his father not much better! He worked his way through college to achieve a baseball scholarship and was so successful he could have gone pro. He chose to go into business instead...Started in a small insurance company in the early 60's in some piddly ass job! But he stuck to it because he had a wife and 2 babies to support! 38 years later he retired from that same company as a self made millionaire, several times over!!!!

You know what made him rich? His own hard work!! Blood and sweat and something called common sense!!!! The biggest asset, he was a man of integrity and character!!! The last 2 Obama knows nothing about! But wait, my dad got that from the govt. right????

Please do not vote for this man!!! He is the ASS HAT that has taken this country and our rights and thrown them both to hell!!!



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 01:15 AM
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Originally posted by MaryStillToe
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He's telling the truth, but selfish and greedy people can not see the truth.

Great socities and civilizations require a collective effort. Business owners and entrepreneurs are like chefs. While they might be the ones mixing everything together, if their vegetables are rotten or their blender is broken, then they can't make a succesful meal. The quality of the ingredients and tools are just as important as the person who combines everything.

In this case, the raw ingredients are the American people and the tools are this country's infastructure, which was created and is maintained by even more Americans. It's really about acknowledging and paying dues to the people who helped you to get where you are because in truth you can not do it on your own. Companies who don't bother to keep their office bathrooms clean are not going to retain the highest quality professionals, who are smart and help keep them successful. So remember that even the janitors play a part in making business owners successful.


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You are exactly right and that's what Obama was getting at.



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 01:20 AM
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the school doesn't exist any more, and the trust holds 300 million dollars, but is imortal, none of the people who set it up have claim over it, so instead of educating people, the trust hordes money.
there is no social benifit and no reason to exist any more
this is a good example of something i know nothing about.
care to share a link for more specifics ?

why tax an inactive trust anyway? why not dissolve it?
regardless of who set it up, who currently has claim over it ?

not sure how OWS fits into my statement but whatever.
nothing i've seen from them addresses the offshore evasions of the corporations.

excuse you but i live amongst quite a few "trust fund babies".
i'm not totally deft in that regard, however, refer to previous question about inactivity.
active and inactive are not the same and should not be treated the same.

slow down jr, i never said you did create this system.
i'm all for restoring Constitutional standards to our exchange system.
the sooner we eliminate the FedReserve and fractional lending the better.
it's a scam.

however, being in favor of it doesn't DO anything about it.
i've been suggesting starving the beast forever, maybe one day more ppl will quit feeding it.



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 01:21 AM
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Originally posted by Bone75
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Oh and nice tactic btw.... I state that we can eliminate 95% of the problems in our country, and you paint me as the enemy? I bet you think poverty and starvation are necessary elements of life don't you?
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Sorry, but you have no idea of what you are talking about... You claim to know how to solve all these problems and I am sure you can't even solve 5% of them IF you had the power to do it...


How can you make that determination when I haven't even provided you with the plan yet?



I am certain you also believe you can stop/mitigate Climate Change, right?...


I'm not an idiot. The planet is going to do what the planet is going to do. I don't think we are causing global warming, but we are polluting the air, our water table, and our soil. And yes WE can fix that.



You can't understand that YOU can't do the work of over 300 million people... You can't control them, and there are MILLIONS of people who don't want to get off the nanny state they are living in... YOU can't feed 300 million people either by yourself, and YOU actually seem to think that you can control the mayority of the people in the U.S. to do YOUR will...


First of all, there are only about 155 million in our workforce, not 300 million. The rest are children and senior citizens. Did you know that there are only 408,000 people working in the fishing, farming, and forestry industries combined? Would you like to know how many work in financial institutions and sales? Look it up, I think you'll find the mismanagement of our most valuable resource (our hard work) about as senseless as I did.... or maybe you won't. I honestly don't expect you to.



It is not that "starvation and poverty are necessary elements of life"... The fact is that YOU CAN'T control life, or ANYTHING that happens in the lives of over 300 million people...


You are absolutely right, I can't control sh!t. But I can create a new ideology can't I? I can break down the numbers and show people just how stupid our way of doing things is can't I?

Would you rather me just keep my mouth shut while our current system is on the verge of collapse? Do you think I want to be able to say "I told you so"? Hell no! I want to fix it before we run out of options.

To think WE can't fix this disorganized, dysfunctional, clusterf**k of a mess that we call home is the product of a defeatist attitude in my opinion.


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posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 02:04 AM
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Originally posted by tamusan
Is this for real? And to think that I was almost ready to concede and vote for him.

Nearly all of the business owners who I've met have broken their backs for success.
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Frankly, I agree with him. The greatest country on Earth is what provided the stage for successful people in America to be successful. He just wants people to pay their fair share. What's wrong with that?



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 02:04 AM
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First time poster here. I usually stick to reading, but the original post somewhat confused the hell out of me and blew my mind a bit. I'm not pro Obama by any means, but I thought I understood completely what the man was saying and I'm not sure how anyone couldn't.

Let me just share briefly. I am literally at the bottom of the workforce ladder. I helped my cousin and her husband open a pizza carry out. I work in food service. For 2 years now I have worked anywhere from 60 to no less than 45 hours... straight minimum wage with no overtime, comp time, or benefits. I either work completely by myself or with one other min. wage employee. The business... THEIR business has been a complete success and they take full credit for it. He works no more than two hours a day for a total of roughly 13 hours a week. She works 5 to 6 hours a day for close to 35 (take away her time watching movies and playing on facebook... about 5 hours a week and that is not an exaggeration). They truly and honestly believe they are the sole reasons that we have succeeded. On several occasions they blatantly took credit for recipes that I alone created.

Now clearly this is not big industry, but if I can relate to exactly what he's saying on my low rung of the ladder, it makes me suspect of a person that can not. I know there are millions of other people in the same boat and at all levels socioeconomic status. There is no "trickle down".

FYI: My facebook cousin makes just 12k more than I do. They have 6 cars, a brand new 5 bedroom home with pool. 12k is just a drop int he bucket to them. For me... that would be health insurance, dental insurance, and not living in my aunt's basement.



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 02:27 AM
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Originally posted by Domo1
I agree with everything he said. People make the BS argument for instance that if they don't have kids they shouldn't fund schools. Preposterous. Those kids are going to be taking care of you and paying taxes. Same thing here. There really is no such thing as a self made businessman. School, roads, other business, agriculture, everything is connected. When one part falls so do the rest. See how well your restaraunt does without truckers.


Truckers get paid for transporting goods, they don't do it for free. What you, Obama, and others like you are proposing is that NO ONE owns anything at all... That is "socialism", and some people claimed Obama isn't socialist, when all forms of private property is abolished... Instead the "government/state" owns and controls the means of production...

See how well "socialism" worked for the people in the former U.S.S.R., or how has been working for the people in North Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, etc...

When NO ONE can own anything at all, the state/government owns it all and they can dictate and regulate EVERYTHING about your life...

You feel confy about having that sort of government?... Try moving to one of the countries that already uses that sort of system where all forms of private property is abolished...




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