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Hints of pro-government propaganda directed at Occupy

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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 05:15 PM
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Although Seabag has already documented one instance of a new video game featuring a terrorist organisation, who are at least partly inspired by Occupy, (use of the term "the 99%") I wanted to share two other such instances of propaganda in mainstream entertainment which I've found, recently.

The first is the most recent addition to Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six franchise, which is a game called Patriots. The speech in the opening trailer, fairly clearly makes references to Occupy's protests.



The second was in a speech given by Selina Kyle/Catwoman, in an early trailer for The Dark Knight Rises, Christopher Nolan's final Batman film, which is due to be released in only a few days from the time of running.

You think this can last? There's a storm coming, Mr. Wayne. You and your friends had better baton down the hatches, because when it hits, you'll wonder how you could have ever lived so large, and left so little for the rest of us.



A third is the game Seabag mentions in his thread, Call of Duty: Black Ops II.

These references have some interesting characteristics. Perhaps the most interesting one, in the case of The Dark Knight Rises, is its' comparitive subtlety, although the Tom Clancy game's depiction of a group that make similar statements to Occupy, but use far more violent methods, is of course much more overt.

The other thing which caught my eye, was the name of the antagonist in Black Ops 2; Raul Mernendez. This is possibly a reference to Fidel Castro's son, Raul Castro. It is also to be expected that vilification of Hispanic/Latin American Communism/Socialism will be used, in an attempt to draw a link in the public's mind between Occupy and the Cold War.

The broader question, of course, is whether or not this is simply a relatively innocent case of video game and movie producers, using recent events as inspiration for conflict-based storylines, or whether or not it is the first whispers of a propaganda campaign, being launched by a government and economic complex that are beginning to feel a need to defend themselves, from a popular threat.

I've always believed, personally, that the Department of Homeland Security's primary mandate is, in fact, counter-revolutionary. That agency is not intended, as it claims, to protect the public from "domestic terrorism," but rather to protect the Obama and succeeding administrations from the American public.

I believe that there are parties within the American government who know, on at least a semi-conscious basis, that said government has now met the required conditions for revolution by the public, according to Thomas Jefferson's instructions; and the government has and is therefore taking steps to defend itself accordingly, in anticipation of large scale civil unrest.

Another question I have, is how Occupy as a movement are intending to defend themselves from this propaganda. Given, as I have said in the past, the degree to which Marx' vocabulary is present on Occupy's web sites, the movement does not help its' own cause in this regard.

I feel that a written statement in response to these cultural references, from one of Occupy's websites, may assist the movement in the protection of its' own interests.
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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 05:36 PM
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In my opinion, the occupy movement is implicit pro-government propaganda, for the government to redistribute wealth of the "1 percent" to the "99 percent." In my opinion, the occupy movement barks up the wrong tree as they focus their protesting outside private companies , in wall street, and other major commercial centers as if these private corporations are entitled to the demands of the American Public. The occupy movement should concentrate their efforts protesting outside public government offices and buildings of publicly-elected government officials who are accountable to the American people, and if they succumb to the interests of big business lobbying then they should protests outside their offices and demand that they should be removed from office. The problem is that lobbying is rampant with in the government and it has to stop before the government sells out America and it's people to foreign interests. But I get the sense that may already be the case.

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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by Emergingtruth
reply to post by petrus4
 


In my opinion, the occupy movement is implicit pro-government propaganda, for the government to redistribute wealth of the "1 percent" to the "99 percent." In my opinion, the occupy movement barks up the wrong tree as they focus their protesting outside private companies , in wall street, and other major commercial centers as if these private corporations are entitled to the demands of the American Public. The occupy movement should concentrate their efforts protesting outside public government offices and buildings of publicly-elected government officials who are accountable to the American people, and if they succumb to the interests of big business lobbying then they should protests outside their offices and demand that they should be removed from office. The problem is that lobbying is rampant with in the government and it has to stop before the government sells out America and it's people to foreign interests. But I get the sense that may already be the case.

edit on 7/14/2012 by Emergingtruth because: (no reason given)


cognitive dieodence,
when libour the largest fraud ever on earth is ignored to push ows is govenment

occupy WALL street

criminal bankers remember?

xploder



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 05:59 PM
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I think the goal of OWS has been achieved. We know that violent uprising will most likely not work, but look at the awareness it has caused. They are now dropping OWS into video games and such.

OWS has made everyone aware of what is going on, whether you agree with them or not.



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 06:01 PM
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In modern gaming the villains are a more challenging role to play.



Anyhow, as I'm sure you're aware... The band plays on.



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by Emergingtruth
reply to post by petrus4
 


In my opinion, the occupy movement is implicit pro-government propaganda, for the government to redistribute wealth of the "1 percent" to the "99 percent." In my opinion, the occupy movement barks up the wrong tree as they focus their protesting outside private companies , in wall street, and other major commercial centers as if these private corporations are entitled to the demands of the American Public. The occupy movement should concentrate their efforts protesting outside public government offices and buildings of publicly-elected government officials who are accountable to the American people, and if they succumb to the interests of big business lobbying then they should protests outside their offices and demand that they should be removed from office. The problem is that lobbying is rampant with in the government and it has to stop before the government sells out America and it's people to foreign interests. But I get the sense that may already be the case.

edit on 7/14/2012 by Emergingtruth because: (no reason given)


Sure, that sounds like a solid plan...

Goodbye, First Amendment: ‘Trespass Bill’ will make protest illegal



Source



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 06:14 PM
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If you make yourself more than just a man, if you devote yourself to an ideal... You become something else entirely.



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 06:14 PM
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The largest fraud in the history of the world is subjective. If the news media tells you its the LIBOR interest-rate fixing then you can believe them.

However, don't forget there are other current fraud schemes out there that still exist today, and have been in existence for quite some time.

Social Security -
Federal Income Tax -
Fiat Currency -

The Federal Reserve printing money out of thin air is not considered fraud to you?



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 06:16 PM
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Thanks for the memo. Even though I don't agree with everything about the Occupy Wall Street movement, it is noble of them to protest against the current establishment that does not have the interest of the well being of the people in mind. That being said we shouldn't lose sight of the powers that be that have more sinister schemes in mind for the people.
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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 06:31 PM
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We should also consider the possibility that the surge in zombie-related material is related to this. The zombie apocalypse has always basically ridden on the fantasy of being able to shoot at a crowd of people who are a problem for you without being shot back at. If I'm right it shouldn't be long before we see the entertainment media suggesting a zombie apocalypse caused by bath salts catching on with the 99% like acid in the 60s counter culture.

While I'm not sure it will actually work, I think the powers that be are hoping to plant the idea in the more comfortable portion of the unemployed (the ones who are in their teenage bedrooms in the homes of upper middle class parents with a DVD player and a playstation rather enjoying the fact that there are no jobs for them) to see the more political and less comfortable portion of the unemployed population as a threat, and see their chance to gain importance and get their parents off their back by taking daddy's gun down to the protest and setting a new high score for spree shooting.



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by Americanist
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If you make yourself more than just a man, if you devote yourself to an ideal... You become something else entirely.


can question the source of your quote?
it sounds very fimilar

xploder



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by Emergingtruth
reply to post by XPLodER
 


The largest fraud in the history of the world is subjective. If the news media tells you its the LIBOR interest-rate fixing then you can believe them.

However, don't forget there are other current fraud schemes out there that still exist today, and have been in existence for quite some time.

Social Security -
Federal Income Tax -
Fiat Currency -

The Federal Reserve printing money out of thin air is not considered fraud to you?


actually we agree on this stuff,
difference i see this as coming about from undue influences of bankers over politicians.

i see it like a hold up,
pass tarp without reading it or there will be trouble

banks holding up congress,
which politician would want to be responsibly for crashing the economy?

the banks used fear to force this bail out on the world

xploder



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 07:06 PM
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In my opinion, bankers and politicians are both pawns to the higher power of Satanic Freemasonic societies whose existence can be tied to the Jesuit order, or the Church of Rome, whose semi-pagan rituals stem from ancient Babylon. The bankers, politicians are "demi-gods" on earth, who follow the man of sin who proclaims himself to being a god on earth , and that is the Pope. In my opinion, all of these fraudsters are preparing the world for the biggest scam in the history of the world, which would be when Satan/ Lucifer arrives and convinces the world that he is Jesus Christ. The pope late last year called for a "one world currency system" that will go hand and hand with a one world government and one world religion.

theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com...



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 07:37 AM
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If i am correct The dark knight rises is actually about Civil unrest and revolution i heard that its also going to be about a police state in Gotham



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 02:05 PM
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I also heard that Batman dies in this movie, Bain ends Bruce Wayne's Crime fighting career, I am not sure if it's true. The movie will be predictive programming about the future public revolt that will occur around the world once there is global economic collapse.



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 09:27 AM
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I don't think he is going to die its going to be based of the dark knight returns were Bruce Wayne dies but Batman lives on eather way i cant wait for this friday!



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 12:10 PM
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I thought Occupy was just against capitalism and not against government.

See, that's the entire problem with the movement is it has no set goals and no set targets, it's just for lashing out undirected energy and trying to claim that socialism is a good thing, so good in fact that everybody has to be a socialist.

Government in and of itself is not a bad thing. like or not, we do need a government to regulate things such as an infrastructure, and a military to protect it's citizens from outside invasion. There are other things it can do too.

But what ruins it is the money and the greedy people who seek to subvert any form of government in order to loot any country they are in in order to get richer and richer.

Remember, according to the wealthy elite:



And you can't do anything wrong if you have the money and the power.

I wish it could be the other way around.

But forcing the issue and just lashing out is not going to change things. It will only cause more resentment. Because all socialists want to do is take things away from people at the point of a gun or using any trick necessary, and people want to keep their property and wealth. That is why people hate socialism, because essentially, socialist are at heart thieves who are jealous of wealthy people. Like any good thieves, they will hide it under and tricky language they can to justify taking people things.

And that is what muddles the water. They are no different than the people they claim to lash out against.

I see no good here in any direction I look at, just a bunch of people whining at each other.

The true target should be the corrupt wealthy elite who seek to subvert any from of government so they can loot the nation's (any nation they're in) wealth are the people who should be fought at every turn, in every way possible.

The people who truly earned their wealth through hard work and production should be left alone.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 06:00 PM
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Normally I would say it's mere coincidence. In this case if the information you present is accurate, it's undeniable.

To steal a line from batman for a second, "riddle me this"? If these games are designed and written by Americans, why is it so surprising that political messages are making their way into them? It's hard to limit creativity. The person writting that obviously beleived in some of the Occupy sentiments. It doesn't mean they're in any way related to Occupy though. Nor does it mean that Occupy is to blame.

The artistic expression in the games are a reflection of the times. If anything, the fact that non-Occupy affiliated people are saying the same thing lends credability to the sentiment they currently have. I think this is a bad sign for anyone not prepared.
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posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 10:12 PM
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Originally posted by Evolutionsend
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Normally I would say it's mere coincidence. In this case if the information you present is accurate, it's undeniable.


My information is directly verifiable. It's all there in the videos.



posted on Jul, 18 2012 @ 10:15 PM
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Originally posted by XPLodER

cognitive dieodence,
when libour the largest fraud ever on earth is ignored to push ows is govenment

occupy WALL street

criminal bankers remember?

xploder


Cognitive dissonance.

Labour.

Spelling, and appropriate grammar, will enhance your credibility, XPLoDER.



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