Russian Ship with Helicopters for Syrian Regime sets sail Again

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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 06:13 PM
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As i said before Britain wouldn't be stupid by starting a war with the Russians would they? the ship this time as reported has an medium sized escort.




posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by CALGARIAN
FOLLOW THE SHIP HERE:

www.marinetraffic.com...

It has traveled rather quickly in only 2 days, since I started to follow it


wow thanks for the link

almost halfway to Syria near Germany
can we locate the russian warship fleet below waiting for the ship ?
they are probably in the West Mediterranean sea already

Were is the crossing ?
between Spain and Morroco ??



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
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As i said before Britain wouldn't be stupid by starting a war with the Russians would they? the ship this time as reported has an medium sized escort.



No they aren't but I'm sure as soon as images surface of the after math of the choppers being used to kill innocent people who were caught in the crossfire you'll jump right on in as usual and say those pictures are propaganda from the Western Media to smear poor Assad and the Russians.

Then call anybody a Troll who disagrees with you and your narrow point of view as you have done so already here today.

Probably followed by somebody posting a Brilliantly thought out reply that the Russians Delivered unarmed Helicopters as if that will somehow lessen their responsibility and involvement in all the fun and games, I mean mayhem, death and destruction.
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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 06:47 PM
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Before you start blaming the Russia and China you should probably read these news articles, i am not surpised that your buying into the propaganda on Syria i guess you haven't learned the lesson from Libya

After U.S. Uproar, Another Syrian “Civilian Massacre” Story Falls Apart

New Details of a Battle Challenge Reports of a Syrian Massacre




but I'm sure as soon as images of the after math of them being used to kill innocent people caught in the crossfire you'll jump right on in and say those pictures are propaganda from the Western Media to smear poor Assad and the Russians


What innocent people? let me guess proclaimed by the mainstream news outlets.
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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 06:55 PM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
Before you start blaming the Russia and China you should probably read these news articles,



Assad has tanks, trucks, BMPs, Jet Aircraft and other helicopters etc etc etc. Only really desperate Assad Supporters will bend over backwards in a near super human contortionist effort to justify more high tech killing machines.

Have at it
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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 06:55 PM
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And also heres what the AP reporter on twitter has reported on the least on Syria, looks like his realizing it as well.
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Activists acknowledge that almost all killed in Tremseh were men, dozens of them rebel fighters



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 06:57 PM
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Well, with the state of affairs in Syria at the moment one would hope that Assad and his henchmen have run away by the time the ship arrives. Assad is a nasty piece of work. All those people who seem to think the Syrian police state is a big teddy bear should get a one way ticket.

Russia are backing the wrong horse. It is not just the West who want Assad gone, but the rest of the Middle East (bar Iran). Assad's regime is damaged goods.

Regards



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
Before you start blaming the Russia and China you should probably read these news articles,



Assad has tanks, trucks, BMP, Jet Aircraft and other helicopter etc etc. Only really desperate Assad Supporters will bend over backwards in a near super human contortionist effort to justify even more high tech killing machines.

Have at it


I am desperate ?





Assad has tanks, trucks, BMP, Jet Aircraft and other helicopter etc etc.

And what do the Rebels? Saudi Arabian, Qatar, CIA Funded, and arms don't believe me?
NY Times

You think the rebels are just simple villagers?



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 07:03 PM
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Russia are backing the wrong horse. It is not just the West who want Assad gone, but the rest of the Middle East (bar Iran). Assad's regime is damaged goods.

Really now? So when Russia is backing Syria that's a wrong Horse but as long as if its America backing the libyan rebels in Libya then thats fine and cool.

And its great if its America supporting the three undemocratic countries of Saudi Arabia with a horrible human right record, not allowing women to take part at the Olympics. women get lashes just for driving a simple card



Yeah what a great ally.

And lets forget about Bahrain, right now in Bahrain is blowing now thanks to the fact that America has given the king its arms to him, while America accuses Russia of providing arms to Assad.

US to resume arms sales to Bahrain despite human rights concerns

And lets not forget that Saudi Arabia supports terrorists.

Three Undemocratic countries of Qatar,Saudi Arabia,Bahrain. Why shouldn't be spreading democracy first there?



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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 07:04 PM
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Yes, Desperate.


i guess you trolls haven't learned what Rumors are yet.


Meanwhile, you're the biggest rumor mill agent around here. Constantly posting conjecture, speculation and off the wall theories....



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 07:09 PM
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That was a referring post to stanguilles7 in my other thread.
Meanwhile, you're the biggest rumor mill agent around here. Constantly posting conjecture, speculation and off the wall theories....

Excuse me? i added links, not just theories, if you think that i am an Assad paid agent then you are sadly mistaken..

I am not surprised you attacked as an Assad Supporter. Not once have praised Assad, but the people who would wanted to take over after Assad are far more worse, i guess you wont believe that either right?
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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 07:12 PM
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The russian inteligence knows that the US is arming the terrorists in Syria to topple Assad then its ok to deliver helicopter that are not even armed


Not an accurate statement to say the least because Saudi,Kuwait,Turkey, and other arab countries are "arming the rebels".

Then we have China,Russia,Iran arming the Assad regime as evidence as helicopters en route to Syria.



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
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That was a referring post to stanguilles7 in my other post


Oh, so that Justifies being straight out rude then I suppose. They posted their opinion {which is different than yours} you were the one who got his panties in a bunch and started name calling.


Excuse me? i added links, not just theories, if you think that i am an Assad paid agent then you are sadly mistaken..


What?

You honestly think no civilians are going to be killed once those Helicopters are up and running?



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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 07:22 PM
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The russian inteligence knows that the US is arming the terrorists in Syria to topple Assad
then its ok to deliver helicopter that are not even armed

Nobody will dare touch the ship until it arrive to Syria
if the US try to intercept it .. they will have 6 russia warships on their arss


Meanwhile, back in reality:


As Russia and NATO continued to boost their military strength in the eastern Mediterranean, DEBKAfile's military sources report substantial US reinforcements, led by the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower aircraft carrier, are being rushed to the Persian Gulf opposite Iran, with dozens of unmanned underwater craft for destroying mines.

The USS John C. Stennis arrives in August, raising the number of American aircraft carriers in waters off Iran to four including the USS Enterprise and the USS Abraham Lincoln, with the French Charles de Gaulle due soon to make up a fifth.
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All this Russia worship is nauseating, really. Some of you are just praying for the US to get smacked by someone…but it isn’t going to happen. Russia has a lot at stake in the region but if you think they want conflict with the US you’re crazy…they know better.



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 07:27 PM
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What? You honestly think no civilians are going to be killed once those Helicopters are up and running?

So Rebel fighters are now Innocent civilians to? did you even read the links? it hasn't stated that civilians were killed, a Youtube video showed up to at least 17 bodies, Non civilian, all militarily age level.

But you know The rebel supporter have been getting a little desperate trying to jusifty this massacre as it wants to seek an intervention so i am not surprised your not responding to the links at all.

Meanwhile back in Libya.
Libya recount in some districts week after vote

Libya tribal elders try to mediate release of journalists, fearing rival towns may clash

What a great success isn't it? I guess some people really do want an Libya 2.0 in Syria not surprising.
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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 07:35 PM
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Yes, Desperate.

If i am so Desperate Why haven't you responded to the article by the new york time? and also SLAYER69 When ‪SNC‬ claimed yesterday that "305" people were killed in Tremseh & "mostly women& children," where did they get this info? ‪
From the 305 reported then on CBC news then later they claimed that the number was 200 on CNN 284.

And now on twitter Rebel supporters are claiming this.



The defected Syrian ambassador for Iraq declares that ‪#Assad‬ has already killed over 30'000 syrians


So now we are in what i call now the Number game the same number as in with Bosnia, which is not surprising.
If i am so Desperate why don't you ever seem to question anything other then what the western mainstream news outlets are reporting?

Why aren't you questioning there one sided reporting? like i have been doing this since last year, not once i haven't praised Assad yet you accuse me of been Assad Supporter just because i am questioning the events?

How ironic i wonder why?

(Sorry for some of my mistakes in English)

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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 07:37 PM
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I do not trust this news source. CNN, BBC, Pravda etc. have not yet put this news on ships sailing again for Syria.

If the news is correct, then it would be interesting to see what West does to counter the delivery of Helos, this time.



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 07:52 PM
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And now on twitter Rebel supporters are claiming this.


How does one exactly confirm who is a Syrian rebel on twitter?

People claim to be a lot of things on social media sites makes tv look tame by comparison.



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by neo96



And now on twitter Rebel supporters are claiming this.


How does one exactly confirm who is a Syrian rebel on twitter?

People claim to be a lot of things on social media sites makes tv look tame by comparison.


Well stated Neo and that's the point, for example if i was Sryian i would speaking in either broken English or just slightly above good English on twitter, i have noticed some users of claiming they live in Britian for to say, but then on there twitter account.



Figure with Tweet. Focusing on Syria, the wider Arab Spring, and the UK phone hacking scandal.

This used previously has made a blog that focused on Libya, (Libya Voices) and now his focusing on Syria even though he claims that he is also focusing on the Arab Spring.

But his tweets doesn't show that, and why would he a Sryian if he is a Sryian be interested in the UK phone hacking scandal?

I mean you think a Sryian would actually care about the phone hacking scandal?
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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 08:08 PM
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My stance on the whole thing is that the Syrians should fight their own battles. The rebels chose to rise up against their leader, and they have to burden the consequences. No one should be pitting the sides against each other, but let the fate of Syria be decided by the rebels or Assad's regime. Rebellions and civil wars are often bloody affairs and people get killed by the bushel. Men, women, and children.

However, as horrifying as it is? The international community has no business getting involved whether covertly or overtly. Now, if this conflict threatens neighbors in the region or becomes an international threat? Then, by all means respond. Right now, the conflict has remained largely within Syria. Although, with the exception of that Turkish plane being shot down which is still under investigation. If Russia wants to protect their naval base with these helicopters? They have every right. The pilots better be Russian and not Syrian!

Enough of the semantics about who is doing this and who is doing that. I thought proxy wars ended with the Cold War? Syria is shaping up to be another proxy war, and I suppose old habits die hard? These helicopters are only going to exasperate the situation, and lead to further bloodshed. Russia should suspend all arms contracts and shipments until the end of hostilities. That is just my opinion, and Russia is going to do whatever it is they do. Just like the US, Turkey, the UK, or any other country. I wish they would just stay the heck out of it, and stop pouring gasoline on the fire. Stop fueling the war machine! As I have said before, sooner or later one side is going get tired of the carnage, run out of supplies and equipment, and have to capitulate. In the event that happens? The international community can get involved to mediate both sides in a peace keeping effort. May best side win!
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