CNBC - Obama Ignores Middle Class: Carville Says Middle Class Hit By A Truck, page 2


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reply posted on 14-7-2012 @ 03:44 PM by beezzer
reply to post by Eurisko2012


It's rather simple.

Obama is creating a larger group that will be depedent on the government.

He's like a drug dealer creating more and more addicts for what he's selling.

Obama isn't ignoring the middle class.

He's aiming to destroy it!


reply posted on 14-7-2012 @ 03:46 PM by Eurisko2012
reply to post by buster2010



Obama $$$ trillion stimulus failed miserably.

That was 2009.

Don't give a Obama a pass on that.

Obamas economic policies have failed. Even James Carville can see that.

Read the article & watch the video on CNBC.


reply posted on 14-7-2012 @ 03:48 PM by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
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post by Eurisko2012





Jimmy Carter? History lessons are apparently needed, all around. This is just sad. Reagan destroyed the economy. Carter took the long term approach to attempt a SYSTEMIC fix. Reagan repealed it all.

As usual, americans were FAR to short-sighted and ignorant to see that a short term hardship would make for long term prosperity. They couldnt see passed their noses.

Funny how history repeats itself.
edit on 14-7-2012 by captaintyinknots because: (no reason given)


What history books have you been reading?

Jimmy Carter had sky high 18% interest rates and sky high tax rates.

Don't you remember the Reagan recovery?

Jimmy Carter & Obama are the worst presidents this nation has ever had.


again, short term view. Its really sad that people think the only way to judge a president is by how things are when they are in office. A little note-you cannot know how good a president was until at least 20 years after their term. Clinton is a GREAT example. He was thought of as a great president while in office. The further things go, the more those of us with mental aptitude realize that he mortgaged our future, and was a major factor in where we are right now.

You can cite interest numbers all you want-that is the exact reason that nothing changes. You all are too ignorant to realize that it is about more than numbers, that numbers are skewed, and that, again, numbers for each president are as indicative of the PREVIOUS president than they are of the one in office.

Seriously. Just sad. And people wonder why its not changing. Whats that old adage? Oh, yeah...."definition of insanity-repeating the same actions expecting different results".

This country is doomed.



reply posted on 14-7-2012 @ 03:53 PM by Eurisko2012
Originally posted by beezzer
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post by Eurisko2012


It's rather simple.

Obama is creating a larger group that will be depedent on the government.

He's like a drug dealer creating more and more addicts for what he's selling.

Obama isn't ignoring the middle class.

He's aiming to destroy it!



Ross Perot says that the financially strong middle class make America the best

nation on Earth. Obama is attacking them. Obama wants high gas prices -- except

during an election year -.

That takes away from their disposable income.

The last 3 1/2 years have not been an accident. Obama has been trashing the

country and running up the national debt on purpose.

The last thing we need now is the - mother of all unfunded mandates -

ObamaCare thrown at all 50 states.


reply posted on 14-7-2012 @ 03:54 PM by xuenchen
reply to post by buster2010


Bush's policies were in effect for most of 09 so you can't lay all the blame for it on him.


What was left of those policies that is.

January 2007 ushered in that new era of a full Democrat infested Congress that lasted until January 2011.

Bush had a gun to his head.

I wonder what we would be seeing today if the train hadn't stopped for water in January 2011 ?

Vote 'em O-U-T !!
Demand Y-O-U-R warranty recall in November !!


reply posted on 14-7-2012 @ 03:57 PM by Eurisko2012
reply to post by captaintyinknots



Bill Clinton gave us - real - welfare reform.

Bill Clinton worked with the GOP and gave us 4 years of surpluses!

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Number don't lie.


reply posted on 14-7-2012 @ 04:31 PM by xuenchen
reply to post by Kaploink


Does this take into account the extended unemployment benefits? Remember under Bush, they refused to extend unemployment to keep the numbers low. So, to compare the numbers, those under extended benefits must be removed from the total.

Sure they are still unemployed under the extended, but it skews the numbers when used to compare it with previous years without extended benefits.


I have no idea.

You state that they refused to extend unemployment to keep the numbers low.

I'm not sure how that would "keep the number low" ?

I wonder what statistics we can see to see the difference in the "numbers" ?

We know today that the U6 number is 14% maybe ?

I wonder how that old U6 compares ?


reply posted on 14-7-2012 @ 11:54 PM by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by Eurisko2012
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post by captaintyinknots



Bill Clinton gave us - real - welfare reform.

Bill Clinton worked with the GOP and gave us 4 years of surpluses!

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Number don't lie.
so long as you're willing to ignore the facts, and are fine with an ignorant, short-sighted view where we only judge a president by the 4 or 8 years they hold office, sure.

If you live in reality, though, you realize that all clinton did was set the dominoes up so the next in line could lnock em down.

Or maybe I'm wrong. How's the outsourcing, nafta, cafta, etc workin out?

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reply posted on 16-7-2012 @ 11:37 AM by Eurisko2012
reply to post by drwizardphd



Carter had sky high 18% interest rates that crippled the nation.

I think you have amnesia.


reply posted on 18-7-2012 @ 01:56 AM by OccamsRazor04
reply to post by captaintyinknots



Clinton certainly did mortgage the future and was a terrible President. If you are trying to say Obama is not a failure, well we can see the long term impacts of some his policies already. Obamacare is going to cost hundreds of billions every year. It's cost in 10 years will far exceed that of both Iraq and Afghanistan. He has destroyed the present and mortgaged the future. For the record I do not think Reagan was all that great either. It's been a very long time since we had a great President.
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