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Be careful when you sort through all the wishes. There will be charlatans out there who will prey on you grief and desperation. Consider this - if some of the "well known" alternative cures and remedies actually works the medical profession would hasten to use them. Every pharmaceutical company in the world would gain tremendously if they "found the cure". If they are not on the playing field you can pretty much assume that the miracle cure is absent.
Originally posted by jenniferpilates
Here's why I am writing this email: when I was at my lowest point, unable to work, at age 25, and in unrelenting pain, I prayed earnestly this prayer, “God, please do not let any of this pain be in vain”. In my spiritual journey over the past 17 years, I have been given a compassion and desire to help others who are suffering, particularly with health challenges.
This is a link to an Introduction to the Program
Originally posted by IAmD1
Originally posted by Finishthis
I work in the the Medical Cannabis field out in CA, a lot of people don't agree with the medicinal uses of Cannabis, but there is a chemical CBD that natural occurs on some strains. It's been proven to help with MS, I don't know if you've thought about it. But I'm willing to help find more information for you if you need me to. I was diagnosed with osteoarthritis when I was 15 and I've been living better than I could with taking pain killers everyday. What worked for me may not apply to you, but just another option if you're willing to look into it.
There is a cannabis based throat spray being on the market that is supposed to help with the muscular spasticity and pain that can occur in MS. As for curing the illness I doubt it. I suggest a change of diet eliminating any and everything that puts a strain on the system and add the things that the body needs more of in order to reverse the illness itself.
Article in daily mail about Savitex
As for things that seem to help with some of the MS symptoms Going on to a Paleo Diet or raw juicing diet seem to have help many regain their function. Certainly excluding all dairy, much of the wheat and gluten based products, eggs, all meat (except fish), adding essential fatty acids, checking vitamin D levels, taking extra vitamin C and selenium removing all saturated fats and using coconut oil for cooking instead of other fats goes a long way to help.... Avoid refined sugar like the plague instead use stevia or agave, drink green and white tea and even coffee (limited amounts) have some anti inflammatory properties. Leaky gutt is often a problem in MS and as I posted previously heavy metal poisoning from Amalgam fillings. I would also suggest that perhaps using natural soap, schampoo, eliminating aluminium anti-perspirants and limiting flourine toothpaste can also help much. As all unnecessary chemicals we add outside and in just adds to the overload on our systems.
Also like previously stated stress is a major issue, as is heat. Getting over heated from strenuous excercise, a hot day or even just walking is a major problem for people with MS. Therefore keeping cool could help with some of the problems, if you do not have access to cooling gear that is on offer for MS sufferers make your own.
It's easily made from water-crystals (yes the ones you buy from the flower store for nearly no money)
If you buy the snow type you just sew some head bands, scarfs, bangles and add some in there. You soak the item in water and place it in the fridge, wear when ever you need to stay cool. They last for a whole day and really do offer some relief at next to no cost at all. If you can't sew well. Buy some headbands. (doublesided) cut a whole and fill with some of the water beads. with simple stitching close the hole and off you go. Also filling the hem of an old T-shirt works also and wearing it like a neclace or headband. Be creative )
I know it can be hard to make all the changes at once, but just make as many as you can. Staying cool on hot days, drinking plenty of cold water and maybe just changing pasta and rice for salad will go a long way to help.
This is all the things I have found researching the subject and myself being a sufferer of the illness. It is different for everyone so maybe not all that works for me works for another. But it is definitely worth trying the options above.
There is an abundance of information on the net and you could spend a fortune on miracle cures and what not, but tbh I really believe the above changes should be enough to get anyone moving in the right direction.
Adding these are just my own experiences and finding I am not a medical doctor but I do at least have first hand experience with the illness and that is all I have to offer.edit on 14/7/2012 by IAmD1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by speculativeoptimist
I would add this too, there have been cases where diet changes(miraculous, I don't know) have beaten MS for some individuals.***snip***
Originally posted by ValentineWiggin
Honey... I don't even have words.
I am moved to send flowers, but that's what I do when I don't know what else to do and I can't email you flowers.
I am moved to sing you the song "Just keep swimming" from Finding Nemo because that's what I do for my son when he is in pain.
I am moved to write a long refreshing reply but I can't begin to wrap my mind around your situation.
I am moved to say that "I know how you feel" or "I've been there" or "I know someone who has been there"
But I don't, I havn't, and I feel like those words would be cheap.
I am moved to hold your hand, listen to you talk, let you vent, for hours.
So this is what I will say...your dream was that you could survive in a post apocalyptic world, fully prepared, and come out unscathed. In that survival situation, there's something that you always forget to account for, you add it to your list, and the list keeps growing. This is something left off that list.
This is that situation for you. This is your test of survival. This is what you have prepared for, it's just not in the way that you had imagined. Your dream is not crushed, it is being realized at this very moment. The most important thing in a survival situation is your mind. I know from your posts, your words, your impression on me that you have a beautiful intelligent and strong willed character. Your mind is sharp and you are a fighter.
This is your time to shine. This is your time to survive. This is IT. Take all those things you have been preparing for and utilize them right now. You have all of us in our own way behind you and sure of you. People say the universe doesn't give us things we can't handle...I disagree. The universe certainly gives us things we don't think we can handle but it's to show us that we CAN. This is an opportunity, of what I cannot answer, only you can. When you answer that, you hold on to it as a gift and you never, ever, let that gift go.
I hope that made sense, I hope I didn't offend, I hope that helped, and I wish I could be there to tell you in person, hold your hand, and be.
Valedit on 14-7-2012 by ValentineWiggin because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Dawn1111
reply to post by HolgerTheDane2
O yes, raw and nutritious food is a killer.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Starwise .. you aren't alone ...
Originally posted by Starwise
All my hopes and dreams of survival into a world where I can survive in a post apocalyptic world has faded
I, too, was a prepper. I was always stocked up and being ready because I know what is probably coming ... Now I just do so for my husband and daughter. There are no medications in a post apocalyptic world. And I can't function without my medication now. (400MG Plaquinel )
I feel as though I have been given a death sentence.
Yup. I feel that. I understand that. Autoimmune diseases such as MS, Lupus and Sjogrens are systemic and progressive. People who don't have them say the words, but they don't realize what it means. It's like being stuck between life and death ...
I HAVE MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS
I have Sjogrens. It's manifesting like MS. (which is something that Sjogrens does).
I have a lot of the same symptoms that you have.
I have cried and cried over the past few days…..
I cried for six months straight when I first got hit with this. It's part of the five stages of grief and is expected. You have to cry yourself out. Burn through the five stages at your own pace. Don't let anyone tell you that you are taking too long in one stage or the other.
I am scared and even though I feel as though I have great support from my friends, nobody can ever really understand.
Been there. Still there. You will find your circle of friends will change somewhat. Let it happen. People come and people go. It's the way of life.
My life WILL NEVER BE THE SAME…………..I am in mourning……
The five stages of grief. You are mourning the loss of your health and the loss of the life you had. It's understandable. It's expected. I miss the life I had.
People think that the five stages of grief are just for when you have a family member die. But it also works the same for when you are diagnosed with serious chronic illness. You don't have to go through the five stages in order. You can bounce around in them going back and forth. You can think that you are in 'acceptance' only to find yourself angry the next day.
I have a sjogrens support group. At first it didn't help and I found the meetings to be more depressing than helpful. But the online group is helpful because people talk about different medications and different things they can do to help ease the symptoms.
BTW .. I have had this disease for probably at least 4 years, the last 2 have been the serious flare up and diagnosis, but after all this time I still get angry with God. The biggest hit to me with getting this disease is to my faith. It's really confused me in that department.
My suggestion .. find an online MS support group.
THIS is the online sjogrens support group.
Many people with Sjogrens also have MS ... and the other way around.
They might be able to help you find an MS support group.
If you have any questions about autoimmune or meds or anything let me know.
I don't know if I can help .. but I'll try.
edit on 7/14/2012 by FlyersFan because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by HolgerTheDane2
You way has killed a lot of people hoping for help from a god that according to the Great Book has agreed to non-interference.
"Over 100,000 people are killed each year by prescription medications and another 2.1 million are injured. More people die each year at the hands of prescription medications than suicide, firearms, homicide, illicit drugs, or alternative medicine."
"The medical industry is no longer to be trusted. We have a Medical Inquisition. The Rockefellers took it over way back and warped a lot of it. Our doctors are brainwashed. The Rockefellers are dedicated to population reduction and are using the medical industry to do it."
"...the pharmaceutical companies know their medicines cause dependance and they know that they can charge any price because they know the person will go to any length not to suffer so horribly once addicted and pay any price."
God needs no middle men. When Jesus was on earth, when someone came to Him for healing, He never referred the person to Luke, the “Physician.” Jesus healed the person directly and personally. And He healed him either with His Word – which we have today, in the form of the Bible – or He healed him with natural methods – clay, water, etc.
"Isn't that amazing. A pharmacist today has the same Greek title that he had at the time the New Testament was written nearly 2000 years ago, and he is still doing the same thing — dealing in poisonous drugs!
"When I first became aware of it, my reaction was to deny it. Surely the word must have changed meaning. I looked in Webster's 2nd Collegiate Dictionary published in 1980 under the word "pharmaceutical" and I could scarcely believe my eyes when the definition read: "pharmaceutical"—the practice of witchcraft or the use of poison.
"Our medical practitioners, while courageous and needed, are educated in schools whose curriculum and even text books are heavily influenced by the powerful pharmaceutical industry."
Why Pharmaceutical Drugs Do Not Work
The strange thing is that pharmaceutical companies are backed by so-called scientific evidence. In conventional medicine, FDA-approved drugs are sold to patients with these so-called scientific claims. And yet even FDA-approved prescription drugs somehow kill around 100,000 patients in the United States each year. So how scientific can drug safety be if these approved drugs are killing more Americans than wars, terrorists, car accidents, murders and industrial accidents combined?
Let's face it: The current pushing of drugs onto the population isn't scientific; it's just great marketing combined with political arm-twisting by Big Pharma. When it comes to health, the real science is hidden in nature. And yet, ironically, defenders of conventional medicine say that natural health is unscientific.
Speaking of experiments, we have a grand experiment going on right now across the population. It is an experiment to see how long the American public will put up with Big Pharma lies, propaganda and scientific fraud while popping prescription drugs. This experiment is being conducted under the umbrella of so-called science, but it isn't scientific at all. Nearly everything that conventional medicine is telling you is fiction.
This is what passes for "science" in the world of Big Pharma. But the Emperor has no clothes. Under the mask of science, there's nothing but fraud and profiteering at the core.