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I'm In the Hospital with a New Diagnosis: It’s my death sentence in a world where survival is my

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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 07:57 AM
I have joined in order to offer you a method to make yourself well. It is going to take vigilance on your part and it is going to suck in the beginning but, as I hope you agree, it is worth a cure.

As you have so recently been diagnosed, you probably have not yet had the opportunity to do much research on the M.S. subject. As you move forward with your research, you will begin to uncover many scientific papers that demonstrate that M.S. is, in fact, caused by a microbial infection, which can be exacerbated by certain foods and medications. Thus, the recovery requires both attacking the underlying infection and avoidance of those substances which provide ideal growing conditions to the infecting microbes.

First, let’s address the direct attack of the microbes. You are going to have to go online and order the following ingredients (Do NOT get them from your area vitamin shop, as these supplements are loaded with toxic fillers and uptake-inhibitors, which is could do more harm than good here. Instead, ALWAYS look for supplements that are in dropper suspensions and which have NO fillers or preservatives. If dropper forms are not available, you can hunt down a chemical supplier and order in powder, bulk form. Then buy your own, empty capsules (chemical-free) and make your own doses.):

(1) Curcumin
(2) Lorenzo’s Oil*

Both of these supplements interrupt the production of IL-12, a protein that plays a key role in the destruction by way of signaling for the development of the neural antigen-specific Th1 cells which, in turn, attack and destroy myelin sheath cells. Curcumin has been shown to be safe in human trials up to 10 grams (10,000 mg)/day. So, don’t be afraid to take high doses of this amazing, neurological healer! Spread the doses out to 3-4/day, to keep the blood levels of curcumin up throughout the 24-hour cycle.

*If you can’t afford the Lorenzo’s Oil, just stock up on the less-expensive curcumin.

(3) Selenium, in the form of selenium yeasts ONLY. Nearly all M.S. patients are shown to be deficient in selenium. Some patients have been cured of MS simply by introducing selenium yeasts. Take as directed.
(4) N-Acetylcysteine: This works in harmony with the selenium and is absolutely necessary. Take as directed.
(5) MSM: Take as directed
(6) Vitamin C: in the form of Sodium Ascorbate ONLY. Take 1,000mg, 3-4x/day
(7) Magnesium Chloride in crystal form: Make a mixture of one cup crystals to one cup purified water and put in a spray bottle (like the ones you buy for spraying plants.) Spray yourself all over, rubbing it into the skin. Stop when you are covered. It will feel oily. Leave it on for 15 minutes and then RINSE IT OFF. You may feel some stinging while it is on. This is fine and expected, as it is a salt. If you leave it on all day, you WILL get a rash, so shower off after the 15 minutes! Do this twice a day, morning and night, EVERY DAY. If you are having difficulty standing, pour a cupful into a half-full tub and soak for 20-30 minutes in lukewarm water…NOT HOT. Your body will only absorb the magnesium it needs using this skin application method and your skin will be amazingly soft, to boot.
(8) Chromium Chloride, sodium vanadate, or sodium tugnstate: These salts normalize blood sugar but, more importantly, they prevent sugar metabolism within the invading microbes, thus “starving” them out. Take one of these 2-3X/day to continue the “starvation” process throughout the day.
(9) A daily dose of vitamin A
(10) A daily dose of vitamin E

Take these all the way through phase two. Head into phase two once your “active” symptoms are gone and you have been pronounced “in remission” without steroids.


Throughout this treatment, it is important to realize that the modern, western diet had a lot to do with why you became sick in the first place. The food itself did not do it, per se, but a lifetime of refined grains and dairy certainly left the door wide open for infection to walk right in and make itself quite at home. So, to get well, here is what you diet should look like from now on:

Organic, gluten-free grains. (Non-organics are now laden with BT toxins and genetically modified DNA that is having some very ill effects on livestock. You don’t need any of this, nor does anyone else.) Note, however, that grains, however organic, should NOT constitute the bulk of your new diet. They are a SIDE DISH. Think lots of fresh, organic produce. Organic meats and eggs. Organic herbs and spices. Green tea. “Green shakes”. Anything fresh and natural from the earth put into any form you can imagine.

Continued in next post...

posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 07:58 AM
Now for the No-No list:

All sugars, except stevia. Sugars are the fuel for infections of all kinds. If you want to kill them, cut off their simple-sugar food supply. As for the stevia, make sure it has no additives. Many claim to be pure stevia, but when you read the ingredients, it actually contains artificial sweeteners. The dropper version is usually the most pure.

All artificial sweeteners and MSG. They are POISONS. They are NEUROTOXINS.

All milk and milk-derived products. Use rice substitutes. (Avoid soy, as this can cause other complications.)

Anything that comes out of a can. Anything that comes out of a box. Anything that was cooked or even semi-prepared by someone other than you.

Gluten. Sorry, all wheat and other gluten-containing grains have got to go. Do the research and you will see what I am talking about.

Caffeine, save for 2-3 cups of green tea each day.

All oils, except organic virgin coconut oil, which is extremely anti-viral and anti-fungal. The only two oils you should ever use, which may seem completely counter-intuitive but has a ton of research backing it, is the coconut oil and suet/lard (animal fat). The latter should be used in moderation, of course, but it can be safely used.

Limit fruits to 1-2 pieces per day. NEVER drink fruit juices! No matter how natural or fresh, fruits are loaded with sugars.

Also note: There may be a few weeks of discomfort as the microbes die. This is called the herxhiemer reaction. It REALLY sucks, but it evidence that the little buggers are dying, and it will diminish as their numbers decline. (If you feel like you just came down with an awful flu, then you know the dreaded herx is upon you.) If the herx reaction is too much for you to endure, do not decrease the number of curcumin doses each day, but do decrease the amount of mgs/dose, until there is still a herx reaction, but one you can stand. Titer the dose back up over time, increasing slowly.


The above may have taken care of the MS symptoms and, with ongoing curcumin, you may be able to keep it indefinitely at bay. If, however, you want to absolutely, positively make sure it is gone for good, continue with the above and add the following:

(1) Disodium EDTA: Removes the protective calcium shells from dormant microbes.
(2) Citric Acid + Baking Soda: Can be purchased online or from Asian food markets. Add ½ teaspoon Citric Acid to ¼ Teaspoon Baking Soda to ½ glass water. Let fizz. Once fizzing stops, drink on an empty stomach with the disodium EDTA. Do this 2-3 times per day between meals. This is crucial!
(3) Granulated Lecithin: Keeps the active microbes from hiding in the blood vessels by hiding in circulating fats.


Look up Hulda Clark’s parasite cleanse instructions…it is all over the net. It is nasty to do, but any lingering buggers in your system will be put to rest with this regimen. The reason for this is that she uses, like many naturopaths, the three bug killers: wormwood, clove oil, perhaps most importantly, black walnut hull oil.

She does not mention this in her routine, but continue to take the granulated lecithin during her regime. After you are done, continue to take Hulda’s once-a-week maintenance mix.

Stick with it and be well!

posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 08:07 AM
**A little off topic but I wasn't sure if it would be better to post here or send you a PM (as you are so new). Mods, I'll happily send a PM if you wish to delete this comment. My apologies to the OP if this detracts from her thread! **

Would your recommendation also be helpful in treating other forms of autoimmune disease?

Say, for instance - dermatographism and a possible Ankylosing Spondylitis diagnosis? I've also had bouts of bilateral uveitis, psoriasis, and I'm constantly experiencing chronic joint problems. I'm currently on Zyrtec, NSAIDS, and Zantac.

posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 08:29 AM
I could say a billion words, that all ring of comfort, I could do Ill I cant to say I understand were you are, But none of that would be fully true.

As I read I felt a sinking with the word Legions I knew. My eyes watered and a solemness came over me. I dont know what to say, My prays will be with you and your family during this time and long road ahead. I as do some others believe in miracles and the power of raising ones self above the illness ect, so I will pray for that to for you.

posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 08:32 AM
reply to post by Starwise

Sweetheart, I'm so sorry.

I can sympathize somewhat with your concerns in a survival scenario; I am an asthmatic and not in a small way. It isn't very dramatic but in a worst case scenario, as soon as I no longer have access to medication, I'm done. All I can do is try to prepare for my family in advance.

Good luck to you, and hope for the best.

posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 08:34 AM

Originally posted by followtheevidence
psoriasis, and I'm constantly experiencing chronic joint problems.

You should have the bloodwork done for RA, Lupus, and Sjogrens (SSA and SSB) etc etc. Autoimmune diseases run in packs. The majority of people who have one autoimmune disease will develop others as well. Your autoimmune psoriasis coupled with joint pain tells me you could have others.

My free advice .. (you didn't ask, but I'll give it anyways)
- Stay away from all sugars.
- Stay away from gluten.
- Get tested for the other autoimmune diseases.

posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 09:22 AM
reply to post by Starwise

Fight. Never give up.

Italian discovery (2009):

BBC on breakthrough (2011):

One of our family's friends had MS diagnosed 20 years ago. And still alive and well.

The recent developments on MS cure, gives even better prospects.

So, do not give up. Cavalry is coming. Keep on fighting!
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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 09:24 AM
Hi Starwise, I am truly sorry to hear of what you've been going through! I know you must be scared and are suffering right now. Know that myself and many others are praying for you and your family so that you will make a full recovery.

As so many others have said try to focus on the good things in your life. I've been disabled for almost 5 years now and that is the only way I've made it this far. I count myself as very fortunate and when I look at my family I have to believe in miracles; my brother died last year and his wife administered CPR and got his heart and breathing restarted - he's fine and doing well - my mother was diagnosed with an "incurable" form of cancer which she's been free from for several years now and my Dad was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer last fall and he is actually healing and possibly in remission. And that is the short list of miracles in my life!

What you are facing is uncertainty and that must be very difficult to deal with - the not knowing what may happen to you. Be positive and renounce the illness from your body. Use guided imagery and imagine the sickness leaving your body and wisping away in the air like smoke.

Do everything and anything you can to speed your healing and your friends here on ATS will be sending prayers and healing thoughts your way everyday.

posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 09:53 AM

I was reading up on MS and the most common is heavy metal, which comes from toxins, chemtrails, nuclear, and so immediately realized aside from the regimes mentioned in this thread, and I would investigate all the natural health remedies. But Iodide/iodine, as often found in this amount, 50 mgs, can even go to 70 for a couple months:

I'm currently waiting to buy this: the pure crystal form of it:

It detox's everything in your body, so against Fukushima its very important, but so much more. Its a part of our healing process and we're extremely iodide deficient.

Vit D and C, in large amounts.

And since detoxing is important, P'aurdarco tea, 3 cups a day, sipped slowly. A little honey maybe. Its very cheap, try to find organic non radiated forms, you bring to a near boil, the shredded bark in a pot. Simmer for 15 min. I would say, use a med size pot, 2/3 full and about 3 tbsps of bark, heaping, the water should go purply dark. Turn off and let steep 15-20 min, strain and drink all day, share with family. I would put a bit of honey in it while its warm or organic maple syrup. Its also detox's and a natural cure for cancer and everything. It tastes a bit like a slightly woody form of tetley tea, its not bad, quite nice.

This is one of the most important videos I've watched for health lately.

"Iodine: The Misunderstood Nutrient" - David Brownstein
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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 10:03 AM
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Hi Follow the Evidence;

You would certainly benefit from following the very same dietary recommendations. I did forget to mention that all carbonated beverages are also off the table, for at least half-a-dozen reasons founded in science. For you, it is particularly important that you actively avoid dairy products because you are having, among other things, a magnesium/calcium problem, which can be addressed.

Here is your summary:

(1) Follow the previously-mentioned diet. NO sugar. NO dairy. You also want to use a handful of chinese parsley/cilantro, 3 times a week in your dishes. Put it in raw salsa, salads, green drinks, etc. It removes mercury from your system. If you like spicy foods, great, because cayenne pepper and tumeric are your friends right now. Try to find ways to get at least 1/2 tsp cayenne and up to 1 tbsp tumeric into your diet each day, 7 days a week. If the very thought makes you gag, go online and order empty vitamin capsules and stuff the spices in them. Just swallow the caps with a beverage of your choice. These can be taken with food.

(2) Get some 100% vegetable-based glycerin from Walmart for about $3 a bottle. Get the one with no additives. You are going to need it, because treatment may make your psoriasis flare up at first. (Like all living things, microbes and viruses have evolved ways to fight back. They will not go down easily.) At the very first sign of a flare-up, slather yourself in the glycerin. It will stop the flare up or, at worst, keep it to its absolute minimum. Don't worry, it soaks in after a few minutes and you won't feel slimy or look shiny.If you have a breakthrough, get Bragg's apple cider vinegar and spritz the affected areas 2-3x/day. It will sting like crazy for a few minutes, but it will do the trick.

(3) Pick up some baking soda and citric acid. If you simply can't get the citric acid, pick up a bunch of lemons and/or limes, your choice. You will need enough for 2/day if they are small and 1/day if they are large. Take 1 (or 1/2) lemon or lime and squeeze the juice into a glass and add 1/4 - 1/2 tsp baking soda. Let fizz and, once fizzing stops, add about 4oz of water and drink. Do this 3 times/day, before meals. Start off with the 1/4 tsp of baking soda the first few days, to make sure your body does not retain too much water. If this happens, then you need to add a bit of potassium to your regimen, Then the water retention should stop. Take this mixture before meals, 3x/day.

(4) Like above, order yourself some magnesium chloride crystals/flakes. Spray on, rub in and let it dry on for 15 minutes. Rinse. Do this 2x/day, morning and night. (The magnesium also helps you to sleep.)

(5) Also go to the supermarket and pick yourself up some 20-Mule Team Borax laundry soap. It is 99.9% boron and, if you look at the MSDS sheet, it has the exact same toxicity as table salt. HOWEVER, you do have to be careful about taking it because it can form into boric acid when combined with your stomach acids if you do not take it properly...not good! This is how you take it:

If you are female, add 1/8 tsp borax, NO MORE, into one liter of purified water. If you are male, use 1/4 tsp borax. Then add 1/2 tsp baking soda to the mix. You can also add 10 - 15 drops of food-grade hydrogen peroxide, 3% concentration, to the mix to speed up recovery. Shake this all up. Do NOT drink this all at once! Your goal is to sip it all day long until it is gone. Make a new one each day. Take it for 5 days on and then you must take 2 days off.

Along with the transdermal mag therapy, this will do wonders to address your calcium imbalance and should help out with the symptoms associated with ankylosing spondylitis. It will also remove heavy metals from your body, which will speed your recovery. As these metals are removed, however, get ready for some brain fog and other symptoms. If the kick-back is too much, take the borax mixture 4 days on and 3 days off, until the detox symptoms drop off a bit, then go back up to 5 days on/2 days off. Do this for one month and then stop.

Other notes about boron: I have read about two side effects from taking this remedy: Increased female fertility (think babies, babies, babies!), as it restores female hormone balances and it can have a viagra-like effect on men. Well, not so much the erection thing, which can happen, but an apparent increase in sperm production, which leads to a feeling of pressure in the testicular area. The pressure is relieved exactly how you might imagine. Go it solo or call in your girlfriend!

(6) Pick up some pau d'arco and milk thistle. Take these every day. They are the only things that are going to protect your liver from the above heavy-metal detox and what is coming below:

Now do, in this order, Hulda Clark's parasite cleanse and her liver cleanse. Dermatographism should be dead and gone for good

posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 10:22 AM
reply to post by Starwise

It is just thought, and I am by no means a qualified health practicioner, but have you considered megadoses of liposomal vitamin c? from the anecdotal evidence I am led to believe it is a cure-all. Sorry to hear anyway, keep up the good fight

posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 10:27 AM
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God bless you. Do your research, and change your diet. I am not going to go into all of it as I can't remember all of what I have read. I am 41 and in my early 20's had a very scary episode happen to me, and doctors were almost certain I had MS after 4 months the symptoms went away and never came back. I didn't go into my story too much as this is for you. I know how scared I was. Really there are certain things you can do with your diet that may help, and the new treatments they have are much better than even 10 years ago.. All I can say is if you look into MS as a patient not a nurse on Google you will find things that may help ease your symptoms and progression. MS is a unpredictable thing everything from progression to symptoms. Anyway I am a perfect stranger and I am thinking of you.

posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 10:32 AM
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Obviously I don't always read all the replies before I post. It is encouraging to see so many take an active interest in someones health and well being. All the well wishing and encouragement is a balm to my troubled "soul". Good job ats community.

posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 10:37 AM
Oh Honey, I am so sorry to hear this. Please know that your ATS family is by your side with well wishes and prayers for strength, courage, and healing. HUGS!
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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 10:46 AM
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Starwise, I wish I had something profound to say, but I don't. All I can tell you is that my thoughts and energies are with you.

Take a few minutes each time it crosses your mind to close your eyes, and freely receive the healing thoughts and energies that are being sent your way from more people than you can even imagine. Allow them to do for you what they were sent to do. And please keep us updated.

posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 11:45 AM
Reading all replies as best as I can. My eyesight is pretty bad right now and its hard to type. But so far I love the advice and well wishes. The docs just gave me a bunch of reading material too, FINALLY!!
Plus the neurontin, valium and solumedrol has me a little loopy.....But my headache is finally subsiding, a little...

posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 11:46 AM
Well, I'm going to take a slightly different tack from most and say I'm thinking you're not really looking for the conspiracy theories or other things right now. You sound very much in the shock phase at the moment. My brother-in-law is dealing with this in his life. I'm not going to say much more because I'm not someone who can relate what this is like.

I'd just suggest strongly that you use one of your strengths to your benefit right now. The Internet. Find some support groups of people like yourself and that'll help get so many of those little questions answered which we can't relate to or understand the importance of to you. I sure offer my best as well.

posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 11:57 AM
I'm so sorry to hear Starwise.
I know I don't know what your going through but I really hope things turn out better for you. You also said your home was hit by a tornado, and I'm here to offer you support if you need some things. U2U me, if you need some household stuff.
I can send some extras your way. I really hope you feel better. Good luck and I hope you feel better.
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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 11:58 AM
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To FollowtheEvidence:

I was just reviewing my previous post to you and realized that I forgot to insert a key ingredient for your ankylosing spondylitis: During your phase one of treatment, while you are taking the boron, try to get some liquid vitamin D4. I forewarn you that it is expensive, but it does work better than D3. You only need to take it for one month, but at a very high level: 20,000 i.u. per day for 30 days. (The drops make taking this dose so much easier.) A lower dose will not be as effective. If you simply cannot get the D4, take the D3, which you can get anywhere in liquid form, at the same dosage for 30 days. Be sure to eat plenty of leafy greens for bioavailable (good) calcium that will work with the magnesium and cure your A.S. and any damage that has been done.

I also mentioned adding potassium to help take the edge of the baking soda. Use potassium chloride or potassium citrate if you do not tolerate the baking soda well. Other forms will not be as effective.

There have been documented cases, although much more rare, where copper toxicity was the ultimate culprit, due to degenerating copper plumbing in the home. If you suspect this may be a contributing factor, simply add 100 - 300 mg disodium EDTA to your liter of boron water.

posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 12:05 PM
If I were you I'd look into natural sources of healing, including vitamins and supplements. Get plenty sunlight and Vit D, too.

Best of luck to you.

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