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Sage Stallone found dead at 36

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posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:03 PM
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Another source mentioning the pills.


Sylvester Stallone's 36-year-old son Sage Moonblood Stallone, who appeared with his father in Rocky V, was found dead in his Los Angeles home Friday.

"Sylvester Stallone is devastated and grief-stricken over the sudden loss of his son Sage Stallone," says a rep for the actor. "His compassion and thoughts are with Sage's mother, Sasha. Sage was a very talented and wonderful young man, his loss will be felt forever."

Police officers were called to the house at 2:17 p.m. and discovered the body. There were no signs of foul play or forced entry.

"It sounds like a terrible tragedy. He was way too young to die," LAPD Commander Andrew Smith tells PEOPLE.

He adds that reports that Sage died from a prescription overdose are premature.


This problem is getting out of control! I'm posting it in this forum, because it is a political problem, and it needs to be a lot bigger one!

ETA:
Beefing up the OP a little bit, I originally posted in a hurry, but the wife's already mad now, I might as well beef it up some.

Here in my state, this is a highly politicized problem. Our Attorney General was elected on the promise of curbing the prescription drug abuse, and my state had 97 out of the top 100 Oxy prescribers in the nation. Other states were having to create task forces to fight their drug problems rolling in from my state, and there was political pressure from other states to fix it. On top of that there are many high-profile celeb deaths like Heath Ledger and Brittany Murphy.

The problem stems from allowing drug companies to advertise and openly press their drugs to doctors and patients. It stems from the marketing convincing people there is a pill for every problem. It stems from insurance companies requiring specialists to treat every patient, and those specialists working in isolation from one another, so drug interactions are common. It stems from not allowing pharmacists to put their great educations to use, and instead turning them into pill counters for large corporations.

The health system needs an overhaul, and it isn't the Obama Healthcare Bill that will fix it. We need a much more basic bottom up approach.
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posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:06 PM
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What the hell is political about it..?


What the hell are you talking about..?



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:07 PM
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I'm sorry, but what "problem is getting out of control", and how is this political?



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:07 PM
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Wait how exactly is his death political.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:08 PM
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I have a previous thread about the prescription drug problem. The Pandemic of Prescription Drugs.

I am one of the guys on ATS that is typically jaded, and says people get what they deserve, and hyping the need for personal responsibility, but not on this issue.

On the issue of prescription drugs, people are dying daily. Between 7 and 11 in my state alone, and up to 50 nationwide. They are not always junkies. Less than half are abusers. Many of the deaths are just pure accidents, or drug interactions, because so many people these days have multiple doctors giving them multiple prescriptions.

Our consumers are not educated, and we don't read warning labels, because they are ridiculously lengthy and elementary. We already know all the typical stuff they put in there like don't stick it in your ear or your anus, or take it with liquor, etc. We don't think we need to read those labels, so we don't.

I work with this issue daily, and it is bigger than the average American realizes. Not only do I work with it, but I've also lost a cousin to it, and my wife would be addicted if it weren't for being married to me. Her problem is that she actually trusts her doctors. BIG MISTAKE! Most doctors are not qualified to be writing these prescriptions, and most doctors are not educated about the drug interactions.

I'm sorry to hit and run, but I have to step out. I wanted to get this thread up, and I'll be back to participate. See the link to my other thread for more information about the prescription drug problems.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:09 PM
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Most of the people who die on prescription pills OD. It's their own fault for not following the label... I sometimes take a few power pellets for recreational use, and if i die because of it, mixing with alcohol or what have you, dont blame anyone else. But ME
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posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:11 PM
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I agree with you, I don't know if political is the right word, but prescription drug related deaths are a huge problem.

Part of the reason this keeps happening is because safer alternatives are being suppressed by the drug companies because they are too cheap to produce or easy to come by, hence the profit margins are slim.

I won't say anything else because of the T&C of this site and I don't want to see your thread get derailed.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:11 PM
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Sorry guys, I was trying to hurry, and my wife is rushing me to get out of here. I know the first post wasn't very detailed.

The prescription drug problem in the US is a MONSTER! It is taking far too many people young and old alike. It needs to be a political problem. IT is definitely a political problem in my state, and it was a top priority for Governor Rick Scott and Attorney General Pam Bondi, and we are making progress here, but the attention really needs to go nationwide.

Too many Heath Ledgers and Sage Stallones and Brittany Murphys.

Too many people like my cousin that never abused a single drug, but trusted his doctors to not prescribe lethal doses.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:12 PM
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He adds that reports that Sage died from a prescription overdose are premature.



Kinda jumpin' the gun, huh..? It may very well be the cause, but how 'bout we wait for the results before going off..?





posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by dayve
Most of the people who die on prescription pills OD. It's their own fault for not following the label... I sometimes take a few power pellets for recreational use, and if i die because of it, mixing with alcohol or what have you, dont blame anyone else. But ME
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Not true. I work in this field, and I see it daily. A normal dose for one person can be lethal for another, and if a regular family practitioner is inexperienced they may prescribe the same dose for a 30 year old first time user that has a hurt shoulder as they would for a 70 year old habitual user of 10 years. It could be lethal to the 30 year old, but barely adequate for the 70 year old.

Also, there is a lethal cocktail of opoid + muscle relaxer + sleep aid + anti-depressant that kills the natural emergency response to start breathing while you sleep. Your breathing rate gets low, but your adrenalin response never happens and you just never breath again...... ever.

It happens accidentally all the time. Some of the dead are intentional abusers, but many are not.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by facelift
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He adds that reports that Sage died from a prescription overdose are premature.



Kinda jumpin' the gun, huh..? It may very well be the cause, but how 'bout we wait for the results before going off..?




Nope, just hurrying. Wife is really wanting to kill me at the moment.

Another source.

It was pills, they just don't know if it was accidental or intentional yet.


hile many of the details surrounding Sage Stallone's death remain unclear, a source told the outlet that an overdose of pills was the cause of death, but L.A. police are still trying to determine whether the overdose was intentional or an accident. He was reportedly found by his girlfriend.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:18 PM
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S&F for your reason for posting.

Prescription drugs are fast becoming more of a problem than the ....other kind.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:19 PM
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why is this a political problem ?



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:20 PM
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Sometimes I worry about this with my mom. She has about 15 prescriptions and sometimes she is so incoherent cause of them. I'm sure that there some of those pills that are interacting with each other. Plan on going with her to her next appointment just to see what is going on.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:20 PM
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Maybe this topic is dear to me for the obvious reason of my profession and loss, but also because when I read the .line I kept thinking of one of my favorite motivational speeches ever. It will never be the same to watch this clip.




posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:23 PM
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It was pills, they just don't know if it was accidental or intentional yet.





If the source is to be believed, it would indeed appear he died from pills...


Star for the additional source, but still no Flag for the watered down OP...





posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:24 PM
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Tell you what, there are only two countries in the world that allow drug companies to advertize on TV. One is the US. We are quickly becoming a slave to drugs, due to this crap. It is scary how much prescription drug use has increased in the last 20 years. We are quickly becoming addicted to drugs, frankenfoods and mindless entertainment.

Up here in canada, we have a huge problem with pain killers. They are overprescribed, and crazy # like oxies. More addictive than heroin.... We need to change the trend for the next generation sake.

Are you sad? Pop this pill. Are you shy? Pop this pill. Are you grieving? Pop this pill. It's insanity!

And another thing I need to add...... For every member of congress and senate, there are at least 4 drug lobbiests in DC. If that is not a political problem, I don't know what is.

Also, we only really hear about the problem when stuff happens to someone famous. There are plenty of regular joes that killed themself after being put on antidepressants for example. Only a drop of water in the ocean.
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posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by ignorant_ape
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why is this a political problem ?


Because it needs political attention to correct it. Pharmaceutical companies are promoting the drugs. Actively promoting the drugs, even seeking approval to prescribe them to kids! Doctors are not required in many states to have any special skills to prescribe these powerful drugs. Insurance companies are requiring people to see their family practitioner and then multiple specialists which results in multiple prescriptions that each one is not necessarily checking against the others.

At this very moment, my wife has the lethal combination in her medicine cabinet. 3 different doctors prescribed 4 different drugs, and she weighs 100 lbs, and she is the type that benadryl knocks her out cold. If she were to take her prescribed dosage of medications right now, and go to bed, and lay on her back or her stomach, or have a little sinus infection, she would die. No doubt about it. We had to go back to her doctors and make the doctors adjust the scripts.

It is political. It is doctor regulation, insurance regulation, education system, economy. I'm upset, obviously, but it is the whole damn system.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:47 PM
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Somebody PM'd me, and I want to share what my response was. This issue can sneak up on someone a lot easier than you think. Here is a hypothetical....

Go to the doc one day, got a little back pain, can't sleep, twisted an ankle, whatever. They give vicodin or percocet, and a muscle relaxer. Maybe 2 weeks later it hasn't helped, and you go back to the doc and you get Oxy, because it is stronger. Unbeknownst to this doctor, last year you were having trouble sleeping, and you saw your regular doctor and you've been taking Soma at night for a year. And unbeknownst to both of those docs, your long-term psychiatrist has given you a daily regimen of celexa and a prescription for xanax as needed.

So, all of a sudden you have a combination that is lethal, but it isn't anybody's fault, and it isn't an abuse situation. Sure, sometimes they take a larger dosage than usual, because the pain is bad, or maybe they have a glass of wine, or a couple of beers before bed, and it just aggravates the situation that much worse, but there needs to be more press and more education on this issue.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:51 PM
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What is a power pellet?



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