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Woman convicted of battery for protesting TSA pat-down

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posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 07:28 PM
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Well, it wasn’t exactly “protesting”. The lady got a little irate and decided to pat down the TSA agent supervisor to show her what she had experienced.



Price, 59, was charged earlier this year after she used a hand-on approach to show a Transportation Security Administration supervisor just how intrusive the screening she had just received was. Now a jury has convicted her of battery and she is being forced to pay $500 and has received six months of probation.


So what exactly did she do that amounted to battery you might ask???


“(The screener) dug into my bra strap coming down,” Price told the jury. “She also swiped the palm of her hand down the front of my breast.”

“She just took the palm of her hand and went up my leg — front, back, right leg, left leg — and touched my genitals,” she added. Price also claimed that the agent “went up into my buttocks.”

When TSA supervisor Kristin Arnberg approached an outraged Price after the initial screening, the would-be passenger decided to show her just how exactly evasive the whole procedure was. Almost.

“I got up her leg, close to her genitals, but did not even get near enough to touch them,” Price told the court.


Isn’t it funny how it’s acceptable for the TSA to do it but when one of us does it its battery? I don’t know how you feel but I think this court ruling should be used against TSA. We had a jury rule that the procedures are invasive and amount to battery.


The supervisor equated the experience to the court as both painful and embarrassing.
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Imagine that!!


This practice of intrusive pat-downs in airports needs to stop…We have the technology today to avoid physical contact so I don’t know why we continue to put up with these violations.

Does groping a 59 year old American woman make us safer? Exactly how many American women have been convicted of terrorism or attempted terrorism?



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posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 07:52 PM
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This is a bad precedent. Sooner or later, they're going to start getting a bunch of people who are also mentally instable and realize they have nothing to lose after being convicted of a crime.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 08:00 PM
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The jury that convicted her had to be a bunch of brain dead morons led by dubious instructions from the judge.
Have you ever listened to the judge's instructions?
He may tell the jury how to vote by the emphasis on his words that he repeats and repeats.

On the other hand....she knew what she might be in for when she chose to fly.
She could have avoided it by taking some other mode of transportaion.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 08:07 PM
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Dude, thats most Americans....im not sure your gonna find any rational ones hangin out in the jury pool.....they already found a way to get out of Jury Duty...all thats left? The morons.....



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 08:07 PM
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America deserves this and everything else that is coming. You let your government get away with the 911 attack and the falsely premised oil and resource wars that followed. You may be getting a government check now because you either work for them, are retired from them or you are on welfare but by doing so you are sealing your own fate and doom. You had the chance to stop the tyranny, but you chose to take the government cheese instead.

Enjoy the coming wars and the collapse of you economy from debt. Eat, drink and be stupid.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 08:09 PM
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The jury that convicted her had to be a bunch of brain dead morons led by dubious instructions from the judge.

Have you ever listened to the judge's instructions?

He may tell the jury how to vote by the emphasis on his words that he repeats and repeats.

On the other hand....she knew what she might be in for when she chose to fly.

She could have avoided it by taking some other mode of transportaion.


Yeah, the jury must have heard a lot more details. Who knows, the story sounds innocent enough but it may have been worse than is being reported…the lady may have gotten pretty physical. I’ve had some days where I’ve completely gone off on someone.

Regardless, the practice is intrusive and frankly its uncalled for. This might get some people angry but I believe in the practice of profiling until it’s proven not to work. Let’s be honest, the people who commit terrorism aren’t 59 year old white women. Some people deserve a little more scrutiny than others.

Flame away but them’s the facts, Jack!



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 08:14 PM
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Dude, thats most Americans....im not sure your gonna find any rational ones hangin out in the jury pool.....they already found a way to get out of Jury Duty...all thats left? The morons.....


I have a buddy who is a bailiff. He laughed pretty hard when I told him I’d be in his court on jury duty for the first time in my life. I asked him why that was so funny and he said “The only people who serve jury duty are those who are too stupid to get out of jury duty”.


I had a good time. It was a criminal trial, I got 3 paid days off to sit in an air conditioned room, I got paid a few extra bucks just for being there, and I got to go home before 4pm every day! Hell, I’d go every month if they’d take me!



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posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 08:19 PM
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America deserves this and everything else that is coming. You let your government get away with the 911 attack and the falsely premised oil and resource wars that followed.


You are one angry woman! Was that you that did the TSA pat down??




You may be getting a government check now because you either work for them, are retired from them or you are on welfare but by doing so you are sealing your own fate and doom. You had the chance to stop the tyranny, but you chose to take the government cheese instead.


None of the above, but thanks for your concern, ma’am. I work for a living.

And we’re working on stopping tyranny every day…it’s never too late to fight.



Enjoy the coming wars and the collapse of you economy from debt. Eat, drink and be stupid.


I bet your economy will go first!

America’s economy won’t fail until yours does, and even then we still have a chance to salvage things because we’re AMERICANS not Europeans!



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by Numbers33four
America deserves this and everything else that is coming. You let your government get away with the 911 attack and the falsely premised oil and resource wars that followed. You may be getting a government check now because you either work for them, are retired from them or you are on welfare but by doing so you are sealing your own fate and doom. You had the chance to stop the tyranny, but you chose to take the government cheese instead.

Enjoy the coming wars and the collapse of you economy from debt. Eat, drink and be stupid.


War for oil?

The only corportations who benefited from the last decade of war is Russian and Chinese. Wanna talk about debt?

Last time i looked the EU is collapsing over spending what it does not have. Take a look at the 35 hour work week in France. Then take a good long look at Greece. Then take a good look at Engliand, and Ireland, then Spain,.

Made by their own fates.

But then again the thread topic is about a women getting molested by the TSA and instead of taking it she dished some out.




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posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:02 PM
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The only corportations who benefited from the last decade of war is Russian and Chinese. Wanna talk about debt?

Last time i looked the EU is collapsing over spending what it does not have. Take a look at the 35 hour work week in France. Then take a good long look at Greece. Then take a good look at Engliand, and Ireland, then Spain,.

Made by their own fates.


They wish they had TSA problems to worry about!!


How people can still proclaim the US fought a “war for oil” is beyond me. I don’t know where you live, NEO, but it cost me $100 to fill up my truck today. Where is all this stolen oil from Iraq? Last I checked we were importing the same amount from the same people.

Also, as bad as we Americans talk about our economy we’re still far better off than the socialist dolts overseas who keep asking for handouts in the face of bankruptcy.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by OhZone
The jury that convicted her had to be a bunch of brain dead morons led by dubious instructions from the judge.
Have you ever listened to the judge's instructions?
He may tell the jury how to vote by the emphasis on his words that he repeats and repeats.

On the other hand....she knew what she might be in for when she chose to fly.

I would agree with your first statement. And all should be familiar with jury nullification. Regardless of the evidence they did not have to find her guilty.
Morons seems an appropriate label.

She could have avoided it by taking some other mode of transportaion.
This however is unacceptable. Bus Stations NOW and soon all modes of ground transport will fall under the authority of TSA. One then wonders what TSA will say. The old refrain of don't like it, don't fly won't work " Well, we are everywhere so bend over and enjoy the ride ! Both RP and his Son are attempting to dump these scum ( TSA )



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 10:09 PM
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Uh, that is battery. The TSA is not 'molesting' or committing battery. You take that pat down risk when you go through the line. Unwanted touching is a no no. You may not want the TSA touching you, but you agreed to it.

Go to the doctor for a physical. Cup his nuts after he does it to you because even though you knew it was coming it suddenly got uncomfortable. Battery.

TSA sucks, I don't like the practices but bash on them for the right reasons and don't say a pat down is battery.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by Domo1
Uh, that is battery. The TSA is not 'molesting' or committing battery. You take that pat down risk when you go through the line. Unwanted touching is a no no. You may not want the TSA touching you, but you agreed to it.

Go to the doctor for a physical. Cup his nuts after he does it to you because even though you knew it was coming it suddenly got uncomfortable. Battery.

TSA sucks, I don't like the practices but bash on them for the right reasons and don't say a pat down is battery.


" You may not want the TSA touching you but ' you agreed to it "
I've never bought this statement. The alleged agreement is done under duress. Compulsion by use of force or threat. The threat is we will not allow you to travel to your destination in the timely manner that air travel is designed to provide. Do any of these individuals chose to be felt up ? No.
This is not an exercise of free will. It is coercion. Additionally IT IS WITHOUT QUESTION Battery. It may not include physical harm. It could include spiting in someone's face OR offensively touching someone against his or her will. Battery is concerned with the RIGHT to have one's body left alone by others. I'm waiting for the day when 200 PO'd paying travelers storm the TSA ck point and kick their collective asses in a frenzy of pent up rage !



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 11:35 PM
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How many terror attempts have been made since the remote underwear/shoe bombers? Somewhere around zero? The TSA's security policy is way over the line and for whatever reason it seems to get worse even though no one has attacked since.

Yeah we agree to it when we choose to fly, but that's the problem... That Americans are OK with it.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 11:42 PM
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lol sea
why complain?

we both know that nothing will change concerning
these paid creeps until someone does a
Samson with a jawbone of an ass
on these philistines

as for you and neos war for oil fallacy
a commodity's price always goes up when it becomes scarce
destroy an oil producing countrys infrastructure
and...
ah well, i suppose you really don't want to see the picture

after all america is god,
god's will be done eh?



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by Domo1
Uh, that is battery. The TSA is not 'molesting' or committing battery. You take that pat down risk when you go through the line. Unwanted touching is a no no. You may not want the TSA touching you, but you agreed to it.

Go to the doctor for a physical. Cup his nuts after he does it to you because even though you knew it was coming it suddenly got uncomfortable. Battery.

TSA sucks, I don't like the practices but bash on them for the right reasons and don't say a pat down is battery.





My teacher don Juan Matus used to say, "I was not present when they decreed that I had to be an imbecile."

In other words, he did not honor agreements made in his absence.
-Carlos Castaneda



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 11:57 PM
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I've never bought this statement. The alleged agreement is done under duress.


So you're under duress when you buy a ticket, willfully put yourself in a line, with the knowledge that you may be subject to a pat down?




Compulsion by use of force or threat.


The threat of not being able to fly? Is there any force involved? Not actually being snarky, if there is let me know and I will ponder and post my opinion.




Do any of these individuals chose to be felt up ? No.


You choose that when you buy a ticket, and go through the screening process. The airlines are not govt. owned. If they require you dance like a chicken to fly, better start clucking.




Additionally IT IS WITHOUT QUESTION Battery. It may not include physical harm.


Not at all battery. Lets say you want to get into a nightclub. The bouncer is required to search you with a pat down at the door. You let him. Not battery. You let him. The condition of your entry is to let the bouncer pat you down. You agree to it.




Battery is concerned with the RIGHT to have one's body left alone by others.


You do have that right. You rescind it when you decide you want to fly, and are subject to security screening.




I'm waiting for the day when 200 PO'd paying travelers storm the TSA ck point and kick their collective asses in a frenzy of pent up rage !


It sounds as if you have issues. There are professionals that can help.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 11:58 PM
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In other words, he did not honor agreements made in his absence.


And neither do people subject to screening.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 11:59 PM
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Originally posted by Sek82
How many terror attempts have been made since the remote underwear/shoe bombers? Somewhere around zero? The TSA's security policy is way over the line and for whatever reason it seems to get worse even though no one has attacked since.

Yeah we agree to it when we choose to fly, but that's the problem... That Americans are OK with it.


My sentiments exactly.



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 12:33 AM
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speak for yourself
i stand by my quote
and simply do what my all mom's uncles did when they came to america
just cross the border pffft!
borders are illusions

i i have never put up with BS

and no troglodyte in a uniform will be taking liberties with my dignity
nor any authoritarians will be dictating to me
they do so at their peril

oh and my maternal grandparents and great-uncles were Sicilians
in case you were assuming

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