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Originally posted by HamrHeed
I claiming to know without a doubt what happens when we die is fascinating. I would love to see some proof from these new age scholars
Originally posted by Morg234
Jeez, this ATS forum is bleeding what ever credibility it had left.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by HamrHeed
I claiming to know without a doubt what happens when we die is fascinating. I would love to see some proof from these new age scholars
The proof comes from people who have had near death experiences. People on this thread have posted their near death experiences. This woman Dolores, and others, have gathered near death experience stories together and compared them to see what things are the same and what are different. Finding out what happens when we die is just like any other scientific process ... these researchers are gathering information. All we can do is read what they have found and see if we want to believe it or not.
Originally posted by HamrHeed
Don't ridicule me until it's proven at least
Originally posted by PurpleChiten
this reminds me a little of the stories my mother told. She said that we "choose" what life we're going to be born into
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by Lexx790
We all decided to incarnate here to "experience the human condition",and to learn the lessons that can only be learned on this earth.
Well .. what I've learned is that I do not like the human condition experience. Not at all.
It's frustrating. It's painful. It's frustrating. It's not fair. Did I mention it's frustrating?
Originally posted by AsuspiciousMANappears
I was wondering if you have read any of Dr Michael Newtons books?
No. Dolores is someone I just recently stumbled upon. She's my first venture into learning about this kind of thing. And I still haven't made up my mind if I believe what she's saying. The reason for my caution is that there are a lot of people out there trying to sell their brand of 'truth'. It's just me being jaded and careful ...
Like I said .. I DO believe some of it. The other part I'm just trying to keep an open mind about and see what people here have to say about their experiences. I'm really not comfortable with the thought of a counsel judging me after death. It's a little too communistic for my tastes ...
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle
as far as ET's being friendly or not well why would they be any different than us?
Humans come in all varieties ... nice, mean, kind, helpful, meglomaniacs, etc etc.
I would think that ETs wouldn't be any different, but you never know.
We don't know what kind of ethics or morals they may or may not have.
They may think of themselves as so far above us .. like we are to ants .. that they
don't consider us worthy of even a second thought.
Who knows.
Anyways, this hypnotherapist seems to think that the ETs are all warm and fuzzy and
are being incarnated here to be helpful. Maybe yes. Maybe no. I don't know.
I'm just presenting what she said and you all can discuss it.
Originally posted by D1ss1dent
Originally posted by FlyersFan
I don't know .. it involves reincarnation and souls from other dimensions and/or worlds incarnating here. I think it could go in either. But it's not about the aliens or UFOs .. since they are now humans on Earth according to this person. It's all confusing.
That is SO geocentric... Earth isn't more or less important than any other planets and the same thing applies to every living beings.
edit on 13-7-2012 by D1ss1dent because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by awakendhybrid
Well, if it was volunteer-based as she stated, then there is a high chance that the majority of those incarnating for this particular purpose would be 'more in the light' even if they don't ever remember why they came here.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by awakendhybrid
Well, if it was volunteer-based as she stated, then there is a high chance that the majority of those incarnating for this particular purpose would be 'more in the light' even if they don't ever remember why they came here.
I dunno about that. Based on human beings .. I see people volunteering for all sorts of reasons. Of course, most are for good reasons, but many are for not-so-good. Some people volunteer to tutor or coach children because those people are pedophiles and want easy hunting grounds. Some people volunteer at soup kitchens and steal the food.
How do we know all the volunteers are 'good' and that some not so good ones haven't come in??
Originally posted by EnigmaticDill
Nothing about these supposed ET's are actually good. They will lie to your face and smile about it, One of the common themes with any of these channelers or clairvoyants is that the beings say, (and there are no discernible certain species responsible ofcourse), for the creation or alteration of our DNA, for a multitude of false reasons. You've just come across the pinnacle of the deception that will probably fall upon the world soon.
Its a multi level spiritual deception that has been going on for a long time,
Nothing about the "New Age" is new. I had to see it for what is myself.
Don't fall for the trap.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Dolores Cannon is a hypnotherapist and a past-life regressionist. She has been gathering information from her hypnotherapy and past life regression sessions. According to her information, volunteer souls from other planets and spiritual dimensions come to Earth to be born human and to help humans.
- ET seeded Earth and is watching over our development.
- ETs are from other planets AND other dimensions.
- ETs are not hostile but instead are watchers and basically babysitters.
- ETs feel the human species is 'SO important that it MUST not perish'
- ETs are reincarnated into being humans on Earth so they can help us.
Edge Magazine - Three Waves of Volunteers
There are councils that oversee everything in the universe, using rules and regulations. Nothing is by chance. They went back to the councils and they said, “What are we going to do? We can’t interfere.” They came up with this brilliant plan. “Well, we can’t interfere from the outside, but maybe we can influence from the inside.” This is when they asked for the volunteers to come in to help Earth. Earth is in trouble – who wants to come and help? So all these new, pure souls that have never been caught on the wheel of karma have come into body. Hundreds of thousands of them have come in since the end of World War II.
They told me, “Now we have tipped the balance,” and they think we are going to be able to save the Earth. It’s not interference
Coast to Coast recording of interview with Dolores Cannon
www.youtube.com...
First Wave-- These people would be in their 40s and early 50s now, finally adjusting to life after going through turbulent early years of feeling they didn't belong here. A number tried to commit suicide or were treated for depression.
2nd Wave-- Presently in their 20s and 30s, these folk had an easier time, and have been called "channels, generators, and antennas," and project positive energy. Many have chosen not to have children, as this creates karma, and they don't want to have to return to Earth after this life.
3rd Wave-- The New Children are coming into the world with altered DNA, so they can function in a different reality (vibrations are pushing Earth into a new dimension).
One hour interview with Dolores Cannon (for those intersted in hearing more)
www.youtube.com...
Now ... I should say that I don't buy into what she's selling. But I think she got parts of it right and then added her own beliefs on top. I don't have proof of that, of course. It's just my feeling. What I think ... (for anyone interested)
- Yes, we were probably seeded here.
- Yes, there are other dimensions and life on other planets.
- Yes, we have been visited here.
- Yes, I think reincarnation is possible.
- NO I do not think ET counsels are running earth. I think it's more spiritual than that.
- NO, I do NOT think ET is friendly or 'helping' us.
I think they feel we are more like a science experiement or something.
Anyways, I thought I'd post this information for those interested in metaphysics, reincarnation, and ETs.
reply to post by sled735
Very well stated. This should be easy for the the "learners" to understand.