Are You One of the Three Waves of Earth Volunteers?

reply to post by FlyersFan


A science experiment? Seriously, a science experiment...who wants to watch a bunch of neanderthals bombing each other over a resource that is probably so primitive in ET eyes that it would be akin to watching a very bad comedy skit?

No...oh, and I'm 2nd wave, by the way. Describes me to the letter. I half-expected to see my name in a list.

reply to pos st by FlyersFan


Om ... Yes All three waves have I come. I would like to move on now please.

reply to post by AfterInfinity


Awesome, I thought both our names would be there

Originally posted by D1ss1dent
If i were an admin, I'd put this s# in the aliens and ufos section.
Not the psychology, philosophy & metaphysics one.

Interesting. Humans love to place things in catagories, everything in it's own box. How can we catagorize that which is unique, one of a kind and maleable as the consciousness which created it?

Originally posted by Osiris1953
reply to post by thedoctorswife

 

I'm sorry but I have to ask you...

Do fish have fingers?

She's a "Doctors wife", perhaps you should ask the "veterinarians wife" your fish question?

reply to post by 11Onestar22


Sarcasm ill-becomes the silent post.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by ValentineWiggin
during a near death experience I witnessed in full detail one of these counsels and swear on my life that's exactly what I saw.

RATS! That kinda sucks. I don't like the idea of lesser beings getting together and judging me. I am much more comfortable with an 'all knowing and all understanding God' being the judge of my heart and actions. Seems more fair. But then again ... life isn't fair so why should the afterlife be any different, eh??

Dear Flyers fan, If you like to read, read some of Dolores"s books, "Convoluted Universe I, II, III and IV and The Three Waves of Volunteers and the New Earth." Each book is about 600 pages and they each have held me spellbound. I literally walked 12 miles to the bookstore and back when I found out that my copy of Convoluted Universe IV had arrived and I was not disappointed. But what prompted me to respond to the above quote is that as you will find out when you read her books, we are all equal on the ET/ spirit side and there is no judgement. These councils confer with you and help you deside where it would be best for you to go next to continue your spiritual evolution. Love & Light to you All.

reply to post by LoveisanArt


Just remember, when we came in, it was an honor to serve and to show what we're made of. Not to complain about this, be a cheerful giver and keep up the positive light, for this world is very hard for anyone to wake up in, and we need to judge no one, ever, but intercede for them that all, even the ones that are doing time, get back on mission. Its an honor to serve, and each day has opportunities, if we're seeking and asking.

If I'm supposed to be here to do something, then they should have sent me with instructions. I don't remember a damn thing, so what good am I?

reply to post by MrUncreated


You don't need instructions, just an innate understanding of what the world needs. If you don't know, then perhaps you're not one of "them".

reply to post by WilburMercer


This makes so much sense, it can't be true.

reply to post by MrUncreated


Its called seeking, knocking on the door of your soul each day and asking Hey Soul, why did i come , what should I do, how do I clear out the programming and get rid of all that is blocking the love from flowing out, reporting for duty!

Also remembering your childhood dreams, what you wanted to do. Sometimes that is a part of it.

Originally posted by ValentineWiggin

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by ValentineWiggin
Well while I was in their presence the humility that I felt absolutely overhelmed me so I don't know that I would say "lesser" beings.

I didn't mean lesser than us .. I ment lesser than GOD. I'd rather have an all knowing all understanding GOD judging then being that are lesser THAN HIM. (is that more clear?? )

Yes much more clear,

So let me be clearer as well,

I came to the understanding through my experience that God was the "Fabric" of the Universe, literally, all things, even the counsels. The difference between us/them/God was levels of enlightenment to that fact. Where as I felt "we" were much "lower" than them on the totem pole of enlightenment to this, "they" were incredibly enlightened beings in a different dimension far "above" us. However, "they" are mainly a counsel to make decisions that "focus" us back to our own enlightenment, if we choose to take their subtle direction or not, is in our hands.

This is probably a horrible comparison but it's what I got

Let's say you (God) planted a morning glory (us) in order to climb a fence (enlightenment). You (God) have millions of morning glories to plant or depending on your beliefs has million of morning glories that got out of control, so you have some gardeners (Counsel) to coax the vine (us) along the fence (enlightenment). The counsel can put us in the right spots to grow the right way, but in the end we decide which way we will grow, but God and the Counsel have a common purpose.

Been doing some gardening latley... *cough*

My reply to Flyers fan was made before I read this post, interesting? Your comparison is not horrible my dear sweet sister/brother but a beautiful one...how perfectly you described it. Bless you, Love and Light to you and All.

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by MrUncreated

 

You don't need instructions, just an innate understanding of what the world needs. If you don't know, then perhaps you're not one of "them".

I know what the world needs, but I can't do anything about it on my own.

Originally posted by Unity_99
All of the above, but that is on lower levels or within the duality. Higher Ups are from Beyond that. Within the unvierse there are two factions/councils, ways of doing things. And a whole bunch of renegades and people with minds of their own.

There was more than 3 waves, this went on for generations. Even to prepare for one to be born in the 60's, others came and paved the way and were born in 1909 say, and before their family was also involved.

In other words, this is truly well planned in advance and generational.

I know that some of us answer the call and remember far better worlds. Don't know which wave, as there is some cross over, and I found some similarities in my case with both the first and second. I don't believe its cut and dried how individuals respond to earth, and its lower frequency, walking in lead shoes in a pile of quicksand, horrible slow motion, dog eat dog and hurtful, hellzone enviroment. Its heart breaking and so completely foreign.

I was listening to Alex Collier's most recent interview, July 8, and while he was talking I understood some of what he was saying and knew he had inside knowledge there, but, and this was a huge but.....to go on talking about the time that would be spent, doing basically what my own message is about, community work, waking up communities and solving problems, looking after your own, giving a voice and respect to everyone, even the homeless and finding win/win solutions and clean energy, self sufficiency. While I agreed, he was going on this curve, sloping into a level 1 to 2 civilzation and my hair stood on end. I got this feeling of horror overcoming me and was like, WHAT???????

He makes it sound like we want to stay here. Unless here becomes home, and infinitely connected to all our worlds, in a flash we can just open the portal and go, unless we are advancing to that level, there is not a chance I'm sitcking around. We're not meant to be in these sluggish bodies at all. We're meant to return to the state of grace, and love and quicksilver rapid multiasking, joy, learning, doing, creating, abundance, light as a feather. Its not like this at all.

I am so with you Unity99. I want out of here as soon as this mission is done, this mission has been very difficult. I am in it until the end, I am afraid, but no, I do not want to stay here unless it becomes like home. Home? I can't remember where it is but I do have a strong connection somewhere, it's like I am anchored to it in some way. I think it would be much easier for me if I had a face to face with one of my "handlers" and they spoke (communicated telepathically would be a optimal vehicle) regarding my mission and helped me remember who I really am. I feel that this would be of enormous help. Incidently this is a common grip among Dolores's subjects, the veil of forgetting. Now Please, no one tell me to search inside myself for answers, I know that and I am not finding what I need at the present. From my perspective, the veil of forgetting needs to go away now! B
UT I am limited by my 3D perspective aren't I?

reply to post by Unity_99


yes I agree, and thank you for the dear reminder fellow canuck

sometimes I too fall into the lower frequencies.. its a "push and pull" effect to stay at your highest state of being, which I havent even accomplished yet. Its been 2 years I have opened up to my spirituality. I have kept myself locked up inside afriad to express what I was really about... no one around me thought or felt the way I did, and this led me to keep a mask on for majority of my life. At 17 I took that mask off, by 19 I have been having spiritual experiences, and now at 20 I live half a planet away from 'home' and I am focusing more and more on my "mission" (NOT ment to take so literally..lol ).

This Earth realm is hard to cope for some, I have been there, locked up.. I know there are alot of special souls who too do not feel strong enough to open up due to ridicule, judgment, and doubting their heart. But for those reading this who fit that description.. ITS NOT WORTH IT. What you feel inside is the TRUTH. Society is nothing more then a bad rollercoaster.. your heart and being comes before anything, remember who you are and what you came here for. Follow you intuition and you will always end up where your suppose to be

Originally posted by kaivonmack
reply to post by FlyersFan

 

As I am a proffesional hypnotherapist I can state that past life regression is totally fake, there is no such thing and as far as the rest of it goes cmon people what # wont you believe

I am one too - trained in Erickson and NLP.
I think it could be true though, but it is a belief system just like Christianity.
It is true to some people.
I tolerate reincarnation better than my teacher who is an absolute skeptic.
(No problemo, he knows hypnotic frameworks well and that is what counts.

I like to draw upon C. G. Jung: we can tolerate fantastic stories as long as we preserve our down-to-earth sanity.
To this day I do not know whether reincarnation exists. How should I know? Perhaps I will know when I die.
It cannot be excluded though as a theoretical possibility (unless you are a diehard materialist). Maybe it is true, maybe not - the whole thing could be a mechanism of other psychic forces.
If I have people in hypnotherapy, and they want to solve their problems, they usually go back to early childhood or the experience in the womb at most.
But I've had cases when they wanted to go back to "earlier lives" and they did - of course these people believed in that openly. Since I am Ericksonian, I will work with whatever is useful for the client, accepting his or her belief system as long as it is not a psychotic system.

Reincarnation is simply one of those things you cannot find external, scientific proof for.
Though some people did find earlier objects and languages, you could explain that differently too - if you bend your theory: they are picking up telepathically on existing stuff...

As for what I believe now, after reading this thread late at night: the gist of it is true.
I have met those I could call Home in vivid and OBE dreams. They were always peaceful, gave me healing by odd contraptions such as a tube hanging out in the vicinity of a spaceship and every time I went inside, a great wave of healing went through my body and soul. They were telepathic. They looked this way and that different, but usually those big eyes you see on Communion. At one point I told them this life here is plain crazy - and they agreed with me.
What I think is that we bring with us our values. We are not supposed top bring any tech, math or languages.
The first genetic mutation in apes was effected telekinethically in order that this type of soul could come here at all. There are no physical aliens here as far as I know. But the non-physical ones have been giving us inspirations, acting as Spirit Guides frequently.
There is a War with the other side now, a War in Heaven. The Theocrats controlled humanity for too long. Their latest tools were mechanical Theocracy - TV, gambling, porn, bad drugs etc. Social sports, and politics - mostly. But some of the good political ideas - democracy, being equal etc. were also coming from hitch-hiking spirits. Yes, occasionally inventions - Tesla is a good example.
Now we're looking at the prospect of a third world war. Things will be different after that. Environmental consciousness... There will be no big capitalism, no Bolshevik tyrants either. And yes, there could be a time in the next decade when there will be a world government. It is not as bad as you think.
In the years to come, I saw people living mostly underground for a while, in communities. They shunned money but everyone had their roles. Internet was everywhere, even among the nuclear ruins.

I think this is the tension some of oyu might be feeling right now. That there is a bunch of people with good intentions - humanized enough so it will have turned out to be a human experiment after all - then why is all this doom and gloom? Because in order to get rid of the bloody Theocratic systems, a last war has been scheduled. Probably half of us will survive that. And afterwards, no one wanted any more war, and no one wanted to be associated with an Abrahamic religion. Because that is what is all about, the false god versus the true god.

We had more open communications from other star systems in my future times.
There were no cars and petrol etc. But people who lived up in houses were murderous sometimes. We tolerated them. We were the Gandhis.

OK, I have given you a prophetic rant from some of my dreams about the future - totally unprovoked. I must add, these came unexpectedly, not in any kind of influenced state. I just meditated, slept and at times I needed a break when working with sleep deprivation.

I take this with a grain of salt. Maybe this is true, maybe it isn't.
I have to add that around 1994 in the US I saw the two towers toppled by airplanes in a dream. I was told: something was decided and I had five years to get out. I dismissed the dream as being probably a tabloid style whatever, so much was to my surprise when on Sept. 11 2001 a phone call alerted me to what had happened. My first reaction was: So it started.
The End Times.

reply to post by apushforenlightment


The Hermetic axiom supports this ideology and so far it's true.

Without this, we are nothing.

reply to post by ValentineWiggin


I have had a lifetime of 'unusual' experiences that could fill a book (as had both my parents, now deceased, and two of my sisters), including a 'contact' type experience (my husband -to -be, whom I was yet to meet, and myself both saw the same amazing craft at the same time, 160 miles apart, in 1978; our daughter born two years later had unusual experiences too, and still has).

But as a very young woman (teens) I had a dream/vision that I KNEW at the time was something that was real - and it has stayed with me my entire life...I was in 'council' type situation, discarnate, communicating with other, seemingly wiser beings while we conferenced on incarnating. I was eager to volunteer for the ''mission'' but was cautioned on the challenges, on the nature of time and density. There was free choice to go or not- and it seemed an honor to participate, but the 'elders' or those who seemed to have more knowledge, did not underestimate the unpleasantness of incarnating - in what I now know was ''here.''

So I haven't heard this woman's talk on the incarnations and councils etc, but when I see other people mentioning it here, it's very wonderful to know others have experienced or 'felt' this too.

No idea if I'm one of this ''wave'' (I am a few years older than what is mentioned), but I certainly struggled with depression and all that goes with that. And my exceedingly unusual experiences continue and seem to be accelerating of late (as they have for other 'sensitives' I know).

Thank you all for sharing.