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posted on Jul, 12 2012 @ 10:31 PM
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It sucks how people lose their home. But what I find the strangest is that people go along with the system. It is as though we have been brainwashed into thinking that robbing people of their property is the best way to fund things..




posted on Jul, 12 2012 @ 10:33 PM
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After you catch your breath, you start a thread on it, OK?




posted on Jul, 12 2012 @ 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by jam321
It sucks how people lose their home. But what I find the strangest is that people go along with the system. It is as though we have been brainwashed into thinking that robbing people of their property is the best way to fund things..


Yup, as long as it doesn't touch them in any way, shape or form...all good.

It's all about ME!


Peace


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posted on Jul, 12 2012 @ 10:39 PM
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I'm on a moblie internet and so can't look up things quickly, so could somebody tell me whether
1) property taxes are from the 1800's and mostly to fund public education
or
2) from the early 1900's with basic communal/progressive/socialist aims?

Is North Dakota still going to vote on ending property taxes?

BTW internet providers can change their contracts and charge you as much as they want.



posted on Jul, 12 2012 @ 10:57 PM
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Originally posted by jam321
It sucks how people lose their home. But what I find the strangest is that people go along with the system. It is as though we have been brainwashed into thinking that robbing people of their property is the best way to fund things..





Most educated people think that they belong to the collective. Most uneducated people don't think at all. Sounds like the prelude to the zombie apocalypse.

Interesting that the word used for not-educated is "uneducated". Implies an effort to make people dumber, like what ever education exsists naturally is removed.

There are some conspiracy theorists who say that the power mechanism operates all the way down to the words we use, thought control by vocabulary.

Does a person exsist for the health of the collective, or does the government exsist to protect the rights of the individual? Might makes right (law of nature).

Taxes should be for specific things, declared before the tax is collected

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posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 12:41 AM
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I always wondered why Yanky houses were so cheap, now I know they make up for it with tax.

Here in Ozz they baned fire saleing houses a while ago, they can sell your house but it has to be close to market value, they can't palm it of to their mate for a carton of beer. You guys should follow suit on that one, if not why arn't you out cashing in on this.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 12:50 AM
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If you are a true American, then you will give your property to a large corporation that will in turn make a donation to the Federal Government to help pay interest on the national debt. Then you will move into public housing and go on welfare. If you are unwilling to do that, then you need to keep your traitor mouth closed.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 01:57 AM
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Originally posted by Numbers33four
If you are a true American, then you will give your property to a large corporation that will in turn make a donation to the Federal Government to help pay interest on the national debt. Then you will move into public housing and go on welfare. If you are unwilling to do that, then you need to keep your traitor mouth closed.


I'm hoping, wishing that this is just a case of nasty sarcasm.

Peace



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 03:46 AM
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The principals of democracy, are laid out for those who wish to become preditors....
Believe me, there are far more preditor types than one would imagine, because when a person gains some kind of social authority they begin to become the preditor type through a sort of assimilation....if they continue for long enough they become totaly involved.....totally mindless and intent upon their authority.
The laws are set up for these personality types to become weathier and more powerful...or they would have retained the control they have achieved for so long....this is a generations old filtering process which goes on today as it has for centuries.....the elite of today are the sons and daughters of the elite of yesterday.....
or better preditors, as a few exceptional ones do come along from time to time....
The more power wealth and authority you have, the more people you have screwed over to get it...this is an axiom well worth remembering when dealing with this type of human scum.
\IF you believe that all men are created equal thats fine...but it just aint so.....some are born far more equal than others....
The history of business, and banking etc, is a history of the ways and means of de nuding the commoner of his hard earned money, and his labour, and his life eventually....Goverment gets a very good turnover too.....
The muicipalities regularly rip feeble oldsters for their homes because they are too infirm to maintain to new by law standards....
The simple addition of a grandfather clause to some bylaws would allow the oldsters to die in peace in their own home, and their heirs to retain the value of the dwelling, which is usually the only major asset any one of us ever gets.....
The Municipality and the shady greedy developers and business people work hand in glove (or need i say, hand in pocket )together to rob the frail and the old... or the ignorant and poor.
The loyal sheep dog serves the sheep, and protects them, but how does it herd them?
By running around biting them......
Sometimes i think theres just no hope...the machinations are too large, the human frailties too numerous and varied,
I feel like im suffocating under a # slide of garbage......one that has taken generations of black lunged miners, and scarred kneed housemaids,millions of dead and maimed soldiers, sailors, airmen, civilians, men women and children...........The sick and the lame ........the strong ,the brightest, and bravest,
..............Like a huge river of corpses to feed the fires of the castles of the elite....( those with money, or power, or position, those with influence.).....
Occupuy that ass%&*LES...................
Theres nothing short of fire and blood thats going to change anything ever......and when it is attempted, despite the very best and highest of motives(actually because of them) usually it get distracted, or disgraced, and
The project always is seen to fail...
We need a leader, who will talk to the PEOPLE....Not work for the system.....
But hes always just waiting in the wings, or gaining support in Congress or some such thing, but never does our
hopeful candidate ever go against the staus quo......never do we get led in that final battle which we could win hands down, but we just need that right combination that turns up once a century ......the spark, and the man who can make the people see the truth....
He sadly NEVER quite shows up tho....we sit here awaiting this great man generation after generation.
Soon ill be too damn feeble to fight much....they can have their way......
Sometimes my mind drifts back to 1956 when the Poles rebelled against the russians, and they sent in the tanks....
The students had a few carbines and such but they went into the restaurant and got plates from the stacks, and turned them upside down out on the roads to simulate anti tank mines......it slowed the tanks down enough to let thrown molotovs to to hit then accurately....well...................
The russians massacred them of course.....but i was ten yrs old then,and it impressed me like indelibly.....
.I have always known we are under restrictions which applied to us for the sole purpose of keeping us controllable............there is no difference anywhere men live.....



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 03:58 AM
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I'm literally sitting in a hotel after an exhausting day of looking at property.

I am one of those people who are leaving ca in droves because of tax rates.

My wife and I have discussed it long and hard, ca is just not worth paying 8k a year on top of everything else that goes with owning land.

Again our incomes are taxed so the very money we would pay prop tax on has already been taxed.

Every property I am shown the first thing I ask now is what's the tax rate, it really can make or break you, I am ruling out whole counties and municipalities simply because of the tax...

Several damn fine place I have walked away shaking my head, 300-400 a month just in tax is pure bs, we picked Oregon so at least we miss out on sales tax...

And you want to talk messed up, I've been shown properties where the previous owner was still there on bank owned land with their permission because they can't afford to leave... I was told if I bought the place they would be kicked out....

Told my realtor if he did that again I would find another realtor, no way am I being the reason a family goes homeless.
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posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 04:14 AM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
Those damned Zionists that run Amerika.

Sad but true.




The Israeli government offers American Jews subsidized mortgages at interest rates far lower than anything available to non-Jews. The subsidies are funded by Israeli bonds and underwritten by U.S. loan guarantees. The new mortgage holders are allowed to sink their credit card debts into Israeli mortgages valued in shekels, which are practically guaranteed to depreciate relative to the dollar. (See www.tehilla.com...)

While these "ethically challenged" American Jews stay in Israel, they receive free Hebrew classes and living expenses for up to one year paid by the Israeli government and some private racist ethnic Ashkenazi organizations. The cost of "doing business" with Israel is not only financial but moral.

The system creates suburban sprawl in the Holy Land, environmental devastation and mass homelessness for the original, rightful non-Jewish property owners. Most Palestinians under Israeli government control are not citizens and have no rights under Israeli law. Lands to which the Jewish Agency holds title are only leased or deeded under conditions that prevent transfer or use by non-Jews. Such discrimination would be illegal in the USA.


eaazi.blogspot.com...



huh??? Dude.. it's our laws in general. It has nothing to do with race or creed.

Unless you forget, our "national religion is NOT judism" or Zionism or whatever.

Stop labeling it and call it damn well what it is... GOVERNMENT that WE VOTED in are laughing at us while stealing every last dime... Zionism has nothing to do with these scum.


That's what we get for believing in anyone other than ourselves to tell us the honest truth.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 04:31 AM
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Originally posted by jude11

Originally posted by Numbers33four
If you are a true American, then you will give your property to a large corporation that will in turn make a donation to the Federal Government to help pay interest on the national debt. Then you will move into public housing and go on welfare. If you are unwilling to do that, then you need to keep your traitor mouth closed.


I'm hoping, wishing that this is just a case of nasty sarcasm.

Peace


I am speaking for the overlords. Otherwise, yes, it is sarcasm.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 05:44 AM
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Originally posted by BubbaJoe
Where I live, it takes 3 years for the county to auction your property, so these people have been receiving notices for 2 years that their property was going to be taken. To the person with the double wide, this is what title companies are for, you would have known that there were liens against your property. To the guy whose property taxes increased, you improved the property, and should be able to find those profits when you sell.

Seriously, for all of you folks that are griping, I bet there is a paved road to your driveway, who the hell paid for that? For those of your bitching, property taxes are set by the local government, not the fed, this is not one you can place on the president, blame your own local politicians, who I am sure are lining their pockets.
No a title company is useless not even the local tax collector has records of these taxes they go so far back as I checked with them. I have no liens against my home none at all. Under the law I have no obligation to pay these assholes. They are crooks and scam artists using legalized extortion and scam tactics to pressure me and others into paying something they don't owe. You should see the letters they send out and how they are worded they are designed to scare you into paying without asking questions.How is a title company going to prevent extortion and a shakedown?



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 06:54 AM
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Originally posted by article

Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
Those damned Zionists that run Amerika.

Sad but true.




The Israeli government offers American Jews subsidized mortgages at interest rates far lower than anything available to non-Jews. The subsidies are funded by Israeli bonds and underwritten by U.S. loan guarantees. The new mortgage holders are allowed to sink their credit card debts into Israeli mortgages valued in shekels, which are practically guaranteed to depreciate relative to the dollar. (See www.tehilla.com...)

While these "ethically challenged" American Jews stay in Israel, they receive free Hebrew classes and living expenses for up to one year paid by the Israeli government and some private racist ethnic Ashkenazi organizations. The cost of "doing business" with Israel is not only financial but moral.

The system creates suburban sprawl in the Holy Land, environmental devastation and mass homelessness for the original, rightful non-Jewish property owners. Most Palestinians under Israeli government control are not citizens and have no rights under Israeli law. Lands to which the Jewish Agency holds title are only leased or deeded under conditions that prevent transfer or use by non-Jews. Such discrimination would be illegal in the USA.


eaazi.blogspot.com...



huh??? Dude.. it's our laws in general. It has nothing to do with race or creed.

Unless you forget, our "national religion is NOT judism" or Zionism or whatever.

Stop labeling it and call it damn well what it is... GOVERNMENT that WE VOTED in are laughing at us while stealing every last dime... Zionism has nothing to do with these scum.


That's what we get for believing in anyone other than ourselves to tell us the honest truth.


Zionist have a lot to do with this they took control of Germany through Hitler and look what it turned into. Now that they have control of America we see America going down the same path. Do a little checking and you will see that dual citizen Zionist hold almost all the seats of power in the government they are even the ones that came up with the idea to have drones patrolling our sky's.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 06:56 AM
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When i speak against the Gestapo property taxes.
I always have some nut job bring up what they think those taxes are paying for.
Here is the main ones:
Schools - I don't have a child in school so bite me.
Police - The last thing I do is call a cop, I will call the morgue and my insurance adjuster.
Fire department - I will pay them if I need them, they should charge on the severity of the fire. And my insurance will pay.
Roads - ours suck so bad I hate to even drive on them so ya, no. They could put the tax on the gas pump, but then we would be paying 500 bucks a gal.

Sometimes I think it would be best for all to stop paying the MOB and when they come to steal, shoot them in the face, ya thats the ticket, in the face, oh wait no in the knees oh ya and stomach make the die hard and suffer.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 07:51 AM
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From a philosophical point of view

....one owns nothing , except the food that goes into the stomach....everything else is just borrowed, and we will leave when dying ....



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 08:17 AM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
Those damned Zionists that run Amerika.

Sad but true.




The Israeli government offers American Jews subsidized mortgages at interest rates far lower than anything available to non-Jews. The subsidies are funded by Israeli bonds and underwritten by U.S. loan guarantees. The new mortgage holders are allowed to sink their credit card debts into Israeli mortgages valued in shekels, which are practically guaranteed to depreciate relative to the dollar. (See www.tehilla.com...)

While these "ethically challenged" American Jews stay in Israel, they receive free Hebrew classes and living expenses for up to one year paid by the Israeli government and some private racist ethnic Ashkenazi organizations. The cost of "doing business" with Israel is not only financial but moral.

The system creates suburban sprawl in the Holy Land, environmental devastation and mass homelessness for the original, rightful non-Jewish property owners. Most Palestinians under Israeli government control are not citizens and have no rights under Israeli law. Lands to which the Jewish Agency holds title are only leased or deeded under conditions that prevent transfer or use by non-Jews. Such discrimination would be illegal in the USA.


eaazi.blogspot.com...

What a pointless rant that has nothing to do with the OP. Agenda much?

Everything you pointed out there is subsidized by the Israeli government, not the good ole US of A. And honestly, use your head. While the Israeli lobby groups in the US have a huge amount of power, they quite obviously do not control US foreign policy. If the Israeli government "owned" the US like you always claim, post after post, ad nauseum, we both know that Iran would be a glass parkling lot years ago.
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posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 08:32 AM
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I have posted a little on our event, but feared even mentioning where it happened for they, the township of four people and the courts will come after me if I let it out. Yet I will say this, it is in Northern Mi. and the county is one I dare not mention out of fear, one of the most corrupt and ill run court systems in the state, and this according to others analysis as well as mine.

I am disabled somewhat, five joint replacements, much due to hard labor and injuries sustained fighting a down town fire many years ago. We had a recreation building on the lake which was seldom used and fully permitted and used for 11 years when an administrator from a township arrived and accused us of living in the building which we never did, we only furnished it nicely so we could use it as it was designed and labeled, nothing wrong here.

So he and his boss after attacking myself and being saved by my wife as I was recovering from a recent surgery, went out and accused us of this dire deed and in the end the township sued us in court for living in the building, but never allowed us to defend our selves at the township level, we were tried and convicted by little people of smaller minds and ultimately screwed by the courts whom lied about a rule that never existed.

We were denied the statute of limitation which is 6 years in this case and 11 had passed and so if an infraction had been real, we would have been free. But acting in collusion with the township as he did, the judge would have had us in a series of appeals until we were bankrupt and I was advised by several to retreat and so we agreed to tear down our little haven. We could have won our rights in the end if we could have afforded to go to the state levels in appeals.

Just the other night, this same township tried to ram another ordinance through the County to give them complete judiciary authority in determine if a building was used in a way it was designed for. This would not allow any appeal. For instance, if you create something in a garage, they could make it be torn down as a garage is defined as for a car. So yes, you don't own property, you must beg for permission to even use your own building up here and be in fear of their destruction if the wrong things are done in them or something is stored in them they don't agree with.

My latest, is I am planning on building a closet in my garage on the only property I own here for storage of clothing and know if they find out, I will be attacked for they then from experience will again claim I am living in a building I am not and I will lose my last building on my property, this whole system sucks, I am afraid to even use my property as I am attacked at every event. Just now without my telling my wife I was writing this, she walked by and told me, "I don't know what to do as the township won't get back to us". To quote a township official when I told them they are discriminating, "I can do anything I want".



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 11:09 AM
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Im going through this right now. Only its a commercial property.

My father started our very small business 45 years ago. I can remember him going through all kinds of hell with property taxes and federal taxes. I was basically raised on this kind of horror.

We are a rental company, we rent equipment for weddings and small events. We are, as I said, a very small company. 4 employees as of right now, years ago we had at most 8. My dad bought this property alomost 20 years ago and payed an outrageous amount of taxes for all that time. Property tax, school tax, community college tax, not to mention federal and sales.

He died in 2007 and left the company and property to my mom, who operates it with me to this day. When we started getting less and less business in 2007 due to the economy failing, we began to fall behind on all those taxes. I owe around 30,000.00 in property taxes alone. We have been threatened by the county, I have been served by the constable, and we are now being SUED by a lawfirm to pay up or else they close our doors.

This small business is all we have, all we know and for christ sakes how we eat. The onlyoption we have is for my Mom to take out a reverse mortgage on her home, which is completely paid off (but she owes taxes on that as well) to pay off property taxes here at the shop.

We used to consider ourselves middle class. We used to be able to get by without worrying if we had enough money to eat. ...not anymore. I started my own family and I'm worried sick about the future. Sure some people would say SELL! ..This is our family business, you have no idea how hard it is to even consider selling, and even if we did, how would we make a living after that? That money would dry up and we would be back to square one in no time.

All of this is incredibly depressing. There are lawyers and property tax companies circling like vultures, trying to get the last penny in our pockets right now. The things that go through my mind at this point are illegal. The confusion and paranoia that sets in, is absolutely crazy.

Its a business. We were here to make money to support our family. We have been taxed to death literally. We have been beaten by our own government. The American dream doesn't live here and Im starting to wonder if it ever even existed.

Star and Flag. ...but that wont pay the bills, sorry.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 11:43 AM
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Where I live, it takes 3 years for the county to auction your property, so these people have been receiving notices for 2 years that their property was going to be taken. To the person with the double wide, this is what title companies are for, you would have known that there were liens against your property. To the guy whose property taxes increased, you improved the property, and should be able to find those profits when you sell.


As a Professional Land Surveyor, when considering purchasing real estate I cannot stress enough "Get Title Insurance" sure it costs a few bucks but it could save you much more in time, effort and money. Purchasing real estate without a title commitment from a title company is a buyer beware situation.






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