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Originally posted by luxordelphi
As far as the 'internal' UK flights increasing - could you supply some statistics and altitudes with these flights? You may be onto something.
Just as an aside: since the UK has a lot of fronts and is known for weather, it would be a shame to alter that pattern creating, initially, floods, and then drought through chemtrailing. But that's not happening there, is it?
Total Movements 2000 FINAL 17 LONDON (LHR) 466 815 1.9
Total Movements 2001 FINAL 15 LONDON (LHR) 463 568 (0.7)
Total Movements 2002 FINAL 13 LONDON (LHR) 466 554 0.6
Traffic Movements 2003 FINAL 13 LONDON (LHR) 463 650 ( 0.6)
Traffic Movements 2004 FINAL 15 LONDON (LHR) 475 999 2.7
Traffic Movements 2005 FINAL 17 LONDON (LHR) 477 884 0.4
Traffic Movements 2006 FINAL 14 LONDON (LHR) 477 041 ( 0.2)
Traffic Movements 2007 FINAL 14 LONDON (LHR) 481 479 0.9
Traffic Movements 2008 FINAL 13 LONDON (LHR) 478 518 ( 0.6)
Traffic Movements 2009 FINAL 12 LONDON, GB (LHR) 466 393 ( 2.6)
Traffic Movements 2010 FINAL 13 LONDON, GB(LHR) 454 883 ( 2.5)
As an aside, due to the weather conditions this year, we've had far fewer days with widespread contrails visible than usual. Or maybe our unusually wet weather is due to the lack of chemtrailing?
Originally posted by luxordelphi
I will agree that there are some sectors involving flights that are up. Military flights are up. Military and government cargo flights are up. Cloud seeding flights are up. Weather modification flights are up. Drone flights are up. Atmospheric testing flights are up.
A bunk science was invented, overnight, by morons, to explain it.
I live near 3 airports within a 35-40 mile radius have done ALL my life
What I suggest YOU do is find out average aircraft flying heights over the decades
As for your UK weather comments I have lived with it for 5 decades HAVE YOU we can get all the seasons in one day and have done as long as I can remember and its not due to contrails
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by DenyObfuscation
It is very easy to find hard data about air traffic. It is impossible to find hard data about the number of "chemtrails" spotted. There is no point in arguing this one.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by wmd_2008
As for your UK weather comments I have lived with it for 5 decades HAVE YOU we can get all the seasons in one day and have done as long as I can remember and its not due to contrails
I have lived in all climates except tropical and arctic. Again, not sure where this is going but I'll wait patiently for you to make your point.
And incidently, long haul flights are more likely to produce contrails since they usually fly higher than short haul. In Britain a persistent contrail is more likely to be produced by a flight from Paris to Montreal than one from Bristol to Birmingham
The possibility that normal jet contrails are being laid down by US Air Force tanker aircraft has been shot down by a high-ranking American military official. In a recent letter to a Washington State chemtrail sufferer, Major General Gregory Barlow of the Office the Adjutant General stated that "Our KC-135 jet aircraft operate at altitude below 33,000 feet which is typically the altitude where jet contrails form."
Hundreds of photographs, a box of videotapes and my own observations of the spray planes operating over Vancouver Island off Canada's west coast confirm that unmarked, all-white tanker-type aircraft are often laying thick billowing 'trails over American communities at altitudes often below 10,000 feet. At such low altitudes, it is impossible for normal contrails to form because there are no ice-crystals in the air to be nudged by wingtip vortices and hot engines into condensation trails.
While occasionally known to linger in "cloud corridors" formed by constant jet traffic over heavily-flown air routes, according to the FAA, normal contrails usually dissipate harmlessly within 45 seconds like the wake behind a boat.
I think the point is that Britain has a quite unique climate - very different to the USA, Canada, India, Brazil, China, Australia and continental Europe. If you haven't spent years here, then you may not appreciate how quickly it can change, And how varied the prevalence of contrails is.
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by DenyObfuscation
It is very easy to find hard data about air traffic. It is impossible to find hard data about the number of "chemtrails" spotted. There is no point in arguing this one.
Originally posted by The X
Truth is, by the time you guys have realised all along we were right, your kids will be suffering from the effects, they are being poisoned daily, and you are compliant in that.
Anytime that you want to support your wild claim that air traffic has decreased, feel free to do so.
Originally posted by ProtectedWitness
I support this spraying. Ever since they started spraying in my area, I have had more energy, a renewed sense of creativity, and overall better health. I hope they keep it up. The reason why the pilots agree to spraying is because they are aware of the benefits. I have a feeling this has remained a secret because we don't want our enemies to know of our super-spray.
Originally posted by Human_Alien
What I am saying is the footage speaks for itself.
To deny this is to derail reality.....so, you don't want to be a member of delusion do ya?
Originally posted by jude11
Always been a believer. Thank you.
When I see my clear blue sky become filled with 'trails' within an hour and then have a haze that covers the sun for hours, I have to wonder how it looks in the city, near airports...
Since I am NO WHERE NEAR A CITY OR AIRPORT...how does it happen in my sky this summer and not once in the last 50 years?
Peace